Titles

Hippster

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

E/Me

When Factions came out, so did titles. What title, to what extent intrests or suprises you?

Well to begin, I'm very suprised the 'Survivor' titles dont keep going or go until 5 or so. Yes, it'd be much MUCH harder to get these, but like 'Hero' titles, I'd think it keeps going. As far as drinking titles....I'm not sure how people can handle that. 1,000 minutes just sitting there watching your character get drunk?Hm...

PvE titles that intrest me :

Survivor(1-3)
Cartographer 90% & up
Wisdom title track
Treasure Chest title track(Not sure of exact name)


As far as PvP titles go :

Hero titles r6 & up
Having a gladiator title at all
And of course, Champion Titles


What titles intrest or suprise you?

Lady Lozza

Lady Lozza

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oz

Angel Sharks

Me/N

lol Drunkard surprised me the most, actually.
After that, nothing really was surprising... TBH I'm waiting for a clothes-horse title.

LoKi Foxfire

LoKi Foxfire

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Florida

One Corgi Army {OCA}

R/Rt

I still like my Ally of the Luxons title until I got too bored with ABs to farm it anymore. I'm sitting at 570,000 Luxon faction transferred with another 200k I've spent on Jadeite. :3 I don't think it's worth the time invested to max it since it's pretty much the same as with the Emote titles.... it just gets ridiculous at the end. Anyone who actually can get to 10,000,000 million Luxon faction transferred is sick. :O

Thorondor Port

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

British Columbia

W/

i think theres a thread like this already.....
i like gladiator title, its just cool =]

ericdanie

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Rio de Janeiro - Brazil

Tribo dos Reis [TdR]

R/

Titles that surprised me mostly?

- Exploration titles: I really never expected something I have always liked to do would be rewarded like this).
- Drunkard title: Funny, and most that have done it know that it's not just about double-clicking a few times every few minutes, the true drunkards are roleplaying or chatting as time passes and drinking is just an excuse to do it, and there's a good reward for them I frankly didn't expect.
- Title maximization titles (Kind of a Big Deal and People Know Me): Really nice, the title of the titles, the ultimate title. A really nice reward for people who do different things, and want to be known for that.

What I don't like? I really don't feel that people that do different things can actually master all of them. There should be titles for achieving titles at a lower tier, because you may really not feel like drinking 10.000 minutes or unlocking 10.000 high-end chests. Or also, first tiers for certain titles being considerably high, for example, 1.000 minutes, 250.000 faction donated to alliance, 100 high-end chests unlocked/rare items identified, etc. But my idea was not equal to A.Net's, and I'm not going to hate them or demand changes because GW is not my masterpiece and I am only one of it's admirers. I have the freedom to understand their art or stop to admire it.

Alleji

Alleji

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by ericdanie
What I don't like? I really don't feel that people that do different things can actually master all of them. There should be titles for achieving titles at a lower tier, because you may really not feel like drinking 10.000 minutes or unlocking 10.000 high-end chests. Or also, first tiers for certain titles being considerably high, for example, 1.000 minutes, 250.000 faction donated to alliance, 100 high-end chests unlocked/rare items identified, etc. But my idea was not equal to A.Net's, and I'm not going to hate them or demand changes because GW is not my masterpiece and I am only one of it's admirers. I have the freedom to understand their art or stop to admire it.
If first tiers for all titles were low, everyone would have them - look at cartographer 60%. You get that naturally playing through the game. Same with protector - it takes almost no work to get it and that's a max title.

IMO even first levels should be moderately hard to get: something you'd have to put a bit of effort into.

-Loki-

-Loki-

Forge Runner

Join Date: Oct 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alleji
If first tiers for all titles were low, everyone would have them - look at cartographer 60%. You get that naturally playing through the game.
Depends which game. I finished Factions with my Warrior and had around 55%.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Wisdom Title: Doesn't impress me at all, it's a money sink title.
Treasure Hunter Title: Same as above
Cartographer Title: This title is ok, but it's not that difficult until 90%.
Survivor Title: Easily farmed/bought, doesn't take that much skill.
Drunkard Title: Again, another money sink title. It proves you have money.
Protector Title: Both of them are quite easy, but still quite impressive.
Skill Hunter Title: Not so much as a money sink, shows skill if you have all elites capped.
Gladiator Title: Not that hard to get. It shows you can work with strangers.
Hero Title: This takes more time then skill.
Lucky Title: AKA the AFK title, this is nothing.
Allegiance Title: Proves that you like ABing, not impressive.
Champion Title: It's a nice title, shows that you've PvPed with some good people.
KoaBD: Getting 5 maxed titles does take time, very impressive.

bigwig

bigwig

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Nova Scotia

#Dismantle

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos
Wisdom Title: Doesn't impress me at all, it's a money sink title.
Treasure Hunter Title: Same as above
Cartographer Title: This title is ok, but it's not that difficult until 90%.
Survivor Title: Easily farmed/bought, doesn't take that much skill.
Drunkard Title: Again, another money sink title. It proves you have money.
Protector Title: Both of them are quite easy, but still quite impressive.
Skill Hunter Title: Not so much as a money sink, shows skill if you have all elites capped.
Gladiator Title: Not that hard to get. It shows you can work with strangers.
Hero Title: This takes more time then skill.
Lucky Title: AKA the AFK title, this is nothing.
Allegiance Title: Proves that you like ABing, not impressive.
Champion Title: It's a nice title, shows that you've PvPed with some good people.
KoaBD: Getting 5 maxed titles does take time, very impressive.
strange opinion arkantos, considering you list only 4 titles that appear to be in any way even slightly impressive to you.

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

I was surprised with the drunkard & lucky titles. The only skill they require is the ability to earn enough gold to be able to afford to blow it on alcohol or tickets. I got the "charmed" title last night by buying a bunch of tickets, placing my character on a circle, and then going off to cook dinner, watch a movie, and going to bed!

I think the title that impresses me most in the PvE side is the Skill hunter title. It takes time and skill to get every skill capped (some more than others :P )

The cartographers titles (over 90%) are pretty impressive, too. Even harder for professions with no running skills.

Toxage

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos
Wisdom Title: Doesn't impress me at all, it's a money sink title.
Treasure Hunter Title: Same as above
Cartographer Title: This title is ok, but it's not that difficult until 90%.
Survivor Title: Easily farmed/bought, doesn't take that much skill.
Drunkard Title: Again, another money sink title. It proves you have money.
Protector Title: Both of them are quite easy, but still quite impressive.
Skill Hunter Title: Not so much as a money sink, shows skill if you have all elites capped.
Gladiator Title: Not that hard to get. It shows you can work with strangers.
Hero Title: This takes more time then skill.
Lucky Title: AKA the AFK title, this is nothing.
Allegiance Title: Proves that you like ABing, not impressive.
Champion Title: It's a nice title, shows that you've PvPed with some good people.
KoaBD: Getting 5 maxed titles does take time, very impressive.
Are you serious? I can't believe you think that Gladiator is an easy title to get... With only 4 players you must work very well together.... Champion is also a very hard title to get... You must work as a team VERY well.

Umm... you can buy all titles with money except Gladiator/Champion Titles...
You can buy golds.
Pay for power leveling.
Pay for fame.
Pay for people to get you masters.
Pay for people to cap you elites.
Pay for people to get you faction.

My Views

Wisdom Title: First Couple "Tiers" easily gotten. Anything past 4 impresses me.
Treasure Hunter Title: First Couple "Tiers" easily gotten. Anything past 4 impresses me.
Cartographer Title: Not really impressed until 90%+
Survivor Title: First not really impressive. Second/Third impress me.
Drunkard Title: Impresses me that you could drink that much :P
Protector Title: Impresses me.
Skill Hunter Title: Any "tier" in this one impresses me.
Gladiator Title: VERY impressed with this one! With only 4 people per team your team needs to work very hard to get a point.
Lucky Title: Not impressed.
Allegiance Title: Impressive title.
Champion Title: One of the titles I respect the most. GvG requires a lot of skill to get Champion points.
KoaBD: Impressive right now. When Night Fall comes this one will probably be easily obtainable.

lambda the great

lambda the great

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

here

Almost a Guild

W/N

None impress me, you can buy them all through services from someone...

Cept the Champion(then again maybe you can buy to gvg 50 w/e matches)
and Galdator(who knows mayeb you can still buy)

but there is one....R13+ it's always fun to see those. even if they IWAY all 36000+fame it's still a Sh*t load.

Sekkira

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos
Wisdom Title: Doesn't impress me at all, it's a money sink title.
Treasure Hunter Title: Same as above
Cartographer Title: This title is ok, but it's not that difficult until 90%.
Survivor Title: Easily farmed/bought, doesn't take that much skill.
Drunkard Title: Again, another money sink title. It proves you have money.
Protector Title: Both of them are quite easy, but still quite impressive.
Skill Hunter Title: Not so much as a money sink, shows skill if you have all elites capped.
Gladiator Title: Not that hard to get. It shows you can work with strangers.
Hero Title: This takes more time then skill.
Lucky Title: AKA the AFK title, this is nothing.
Allegiance Title: Proves that you like ABing, not impressive.
Champion Title: It's a nice title, shows that you've PvPed with some good people.
KoaBD: Getting 5 maxed titles does take time, very impressive.
How about doing it like so:

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

Quote:
Originally Posted by Toxage
Umm... you can buy all titles with money except Gladiator/Champion Titles...
You can buy golds.
Pay for power leveling.
Pay for fame.
Pay for people to get you masters.
Pay for people to cap you elites.
Pay for people to get you faction.
WHY would you allow anyone access to your account so they could go and get the elites, faction, or do anything else with your account? That's just asking for trouble and is down-right stupid. (unless you know the other person personally (IRL) and know them to be very trustworthy)

But, for the power leveling & masters, you've got a point.

gr3g

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

I wish there was an option to turn off title visibility.

Sekkira

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

Your own or others?

Thomas.knbk

Thomas.knbk

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kook~NBK~
WHY would you allow anyone access to your account so they could go and get the elites, faction, or do anything else with your account? That's just asking for trouble and is down-right stupid. (unless you know the other person personally (IRL) and know them to be very trustworthy)

But, for the power leveling & masters, you've got a point.
You can let people run you through missions to get the master reward.
You can do the same with elite bosses.
You can pay a r12 to let you go along on his uber leet groups
You can pay people to run you through faction-rewarding quests.
You can buy unid. golds

You don't need to let anyone on your account.

MegaMouse

MegaMouse

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

south mississippi

Warriors Of Melos WOM

E/N

Heres what can impress a few players. My main character is an E/N and i have these titles for him: Protector of Tyria, Protector of Cantha, Tyrian Grandmaster Cartographer, and Canthan Grandmaster Cartographer. I realy havent been working on any other titles but I have a couple that are almost max. Granted I have been playing the game since the Profescies campain went retail in April of 2005, so I had a head start on a few. Just getting the mapping titles on an Elementalist is a major pain (if they had a title for the most deaths I would probably have it), but with a bit of patience it can be done. I agree some titles are for the birds, but what other way can A-Net and NC-Soft come up with to make players other than farmers get interested in finding new places to explore and finding the chests that have the good stuff in them. Titles can prove 2 things: How much gold you have, or how much time you have invested into the game. Me I like to earn my titles myself without help(although mapping with my Elementalit I needed a few friends to help in several areas). Its in the spirit of the game to do things yourself or with friends, so go have fun getting what you want.
Mega Mouse

the_jos

the_jos

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

Hard Mode Legion [HML]

N/

I can only speak for the few titles I have myself.
Tyrian cartographer will get to about 60% when you do all the quests and missions.
Cathan is a lot less.
So both don't impress me, except when at 90% or more.

The the protector titles (with Pugs) is something else.
Getting Tyrian protectors is not that hard, I think most of the bonusses are even henchable. It just takes time and you have to know how to handle the bonus.

Cathan protectors is more difficult.
The last few weeks I've been getting this one on my 4 Tyrian characters and since I have it, i'm helping others out with masters or just general mission.
Today i've helped several groups out on Vizunah Square and only had one or two master times. Ended a couple of times between 25.10 and 25.55, but that's not fast enough.
It's the two teams that makes this one somewhat unpredictable.

In the end, if you don't entirely screw up, you will be able to get those titles.
It's just joining every available team and hope they can get you masters.
It happened quite a few times that a general team made masters on one of the more difficult missions.

Perhaps they should link the 'lucky' title to Cathan protector

I think the survival title on any Pug player that did never quit is impressive.
That is, a pug player that was valuable to the team.
I'll never get survivor on any of my characters since I Pug and don't want to hench all the time. I don't die on every mission anymore, but sometimes i'm just in the wrong location and die.

Sectus

Sectus

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

Miss Meow Meow's Guild

Any title which doesn't require a ton of grind and is fun to achieve is a good title in my book. I like the protector titles, although most of the bonuses are too easy to get.

The survivor title is good, although it's too bad existing chars can't get it.

Exploration title is good until about 95% where you realize you need to revisit every zone and hug every wall. That gets old VERY fast.

All the other titles, bleh! Too much grind involved.

Zehnchu

Zehnchu

Popcorn Fetish

Join Date: Dec 2005

[GODS]

Mo/Me

I could care less about titles they are just something to do to fill the spare time with. Max titles do not equal experience of a player.

SPIRIT OF THE SEA

SPIRIT OF THE SEA

Banned

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Toxage
Are you serious? I can't believe you think that Gladiator is an easy title to get... With only 4 players you must work very well together.... Champion is also a very hard title to get... You must work as a team VERY well.

Umm... you can buy all titles with money except Gladiator/Champion Titles...
You can buy golds.
Pay for power leveling.
Pay for fame.
Pay for people to get you masters.
Pay for people to cap you elites.
Pay for people to get you faction.

My Views

Wisdom Title: First Couple "Tiers" easily gotten. Anything past 4 impresses me.
Treasure Hunter Title: First Couple "Tiers" easily gotten. Anything past 4 impresses me.
Cartographer Title: Not really impressed until 90%+
Survivor Title: First not really impressive. Second/Third impress me.
Drunkard Title: Impresses me that you could drink that much :P
Protector Title: Impresses me.
Skill Hunter Title: Any "tier" in this one impresses me.
Gladiator Title: VERY impressed with this one! With only 4 people per team your team needs to work very hard to get a point.
Lucky Title: Not impressed.
Allegiance Title: Impressive title.
Champion Title: One of the titles I respect the most. GvG requires a lot of skill to get Champion points.
KoaBD: Impressive right now. When Night Fall comes this one will probably be easily obtainable.

how do u buy fame?

Blackhawk

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by SPIRIT OF THE SEA
how do u buy fame?
You pay a bunch of R9+ Players to let you on their team.

Anyway the real reason Titles were added is because A-net realised people would probably stop playing once they'd completed Factions due to the fact it's so crap compared to Prophecies, so had to come up with something to keep people playing.

Aera Lure

Aera Lure

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

In Baltar's head

Bring Out Your Dead [BOYD], former officer [LBS]

Mo/

The only titles that impress me are Gladiator and Champion. The others are merley something to do and spend money and time on. I do the ones I enjoy as I am doing things, and not specifically for the title itself.

The only title of the spend vast sums and idle variety I would try to max would have been the Drunkard title, HAD the max level been called Drunken Master.

Omega X

Omega X

Ninja Unveiler

Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

W/Me

Grandmaster Cartographer is the only title that currently impresses me. Because that person had the patience to go through the entire game and map all of the areas.

Gun Pierson

Gun Pierson

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Belgium

PIMP

Mo/

Funny how some people say some titles are just something to do. Well the hard part is doing it duh. If you don't have the type of title, don't give comments how easy it is as you don't have it point. When you achieved it you can say it's easy no prob, but until then don't be a jealous prick.

I'll only comment on the 5 max titles I have:
- protector of Tyria: 25 bonuses are quite a few to obtain, though with some dedication it's very doable.
- protector of Cantha: fewer missions in Cantha but a bit harder to get imo.
- Tyria grandmaster cartographer: Tyria is the biggest area in the game thusfar and uncovering everything takes a good portion of dedication.
- Canthan grandmaster carto: not as difficult as the Tyrian but it still has to be done and it will still take some time and dedication.
- advanced skill hunter (max of 180 elites atm): 3/4 of the elites are not that difficult to cap, run in with hench, kill, cap, get out. But the remaining 1/4 of the 180 elite skills are a pain to get.

What title impresses me the most: Kind of a big deal.

Juicey Shake

Juicey Shake

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

CA

in it for the trimmmm

R/

i'm not impressed by any of the titles because they all are easy through boring grindwork and none really show off an amazing amount of skill.

tho i love grinding towards them =D

Kahlindra

Kahlindra

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

England

Anthems to the Welkin at [Dusk]. 2 man guilds are king.

N/Me

I don't really see why people get so aggressive about them- if a person wants to sink their money into a title just let them! You don't have to go around telling them it's worthless and they have no skill. Most titles don't prove you are a skilled player, but they don't disprove it either. They're just a fun thing to do.

Personally I love the skill hunter title- I have level 1 and one of the officers in my guild has level 3.You CAN pay people to run you to the boss, but you need to physically be there (and alive!) to press "Cap Sig", so it would still take some effort. That's lame though; I like going out with henchies, and working on explorer and chest-opener at the same time. It's something to do when there's no PvP to be had.

I do respect the maxed out map titles because I've recently got to 93% in both, and realise how damn difficult it is to fulfil it without getting help, etc. People who got those on their own are very patient!

Slainster

Slainster

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

For me, a legit earned Survivors title, 100% explorers title, and skill cap title are the best... i saw so many KOABD this weekend at the games, that Im beggining to wonder if they are worth anything..

Bringer Of Fury

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

E/

I personally think that the gladiator title 2+, hero title 5+ and the champion 2+ is the most impressive ones. Sure they CAN be bought, but that does not mean most of them are.
Protector doesnt impress me at all to be honest, i played an ele thru factions and got master on pretty much all the missions first time through by joining master groups. I wasnt even going for the title.
Drunken title can be nothing more then a money sink, but it can be cool aswell. Im working on it atm and it does make things interesting to be drunk (lvl 5 so you cant se crap) while playing AB or going through missions.
All titles mean the person haveing them have put some time into getting them, which, imo is worthy of some respect.

Lord Sarevok

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

Ottawa, Canada

W/

Champions title is the one and only impressive title. They had to decrease the minimum rating so more than the top 10 guilds would get in on it and still only about a little more than 200 guilds have a 1200+ rating. You can more or less farm HA/RA/TA with some patience, all you need is time.

The other titles are money sinks or involve expending time or both in several cases but that's not hard..

lg5000

lg5000

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australia

Quote:
Originally Posted by Slainster
For me, a legit earned Survivors title, 100% explorers title, and skill cap title are the best... i saw so many KOABD this weekend at the games, that Im beggining to wonder if they are worth anything..
What do you mean by 'legit earned Surivors title'?

Griff Mon

Griff Mon

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

In the Elfen Forests of Washington State

Damage Radius

N/

I am guessing from previous discussions about the survivor title that a lot of people get this by getting free exp from guildies while they sit back out of harms way and let them give off free exp points to them from a distance.

Other issues and complaints I have heard about survivor title is that people tend to "bail out" when things get tough, or farm easy areas for exp so as not to endanger their character. Getting run to areas to get armour and then going back to lower level areas, etc.

Obviously it takes some effort, thought, and planning to get the title. To be a "pure survivor" is to take a char from the beginning of the game with no help from your other chars treasure chest and take them through to Legendary Survivor without any shortcuts, armour boosts, or high end weapons that you did not gather or collect "legitimately".

How you prove this is beyond me, and I simply respect the title. Just to get one of my characters to the first level was a huge effort and I was deeply disappointed when it died during a lag spike fighting some ice imps.

Aera Lure

Aera Lure

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

In Baltar's head

Bring Out Your Dead [BOYD], former officer [LBS]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gun Pierson
Funny how some people say some titles are just something to do. Well the hard part is doing it duh. If you don't have the type of title, don't give comments how easy it is as you don't have it point. When you achieved it you can say it's easy no prob, but until then don't be a jealous prick.
How are they anything more than something to do? The majority of them are exercises in spending large amounts of resources, be they gold or time, or both. Takes dedication and resources, as well as patience, and those things are impressive in and of themselves, but they are not impressive to me as in game accomplishments per se, hence my reply that Gladiator and Champion lines are. Those title lines are of a different variety.

Nightfall introduces the concept of titles having an effect on PvE in-game accomplishments, placing a boon on having certain titles - some of the current lines - as well as some of the new ones. Worst idea ever, in my humble opinion, as it all but forces PvE players to seek said titles whereas before titles were enjoayble diversions. Having titles have a PvE impact does not suddenly make them impressive - they still by and large require monotony and grinding that about anyone with monetary and time resources can do - except for the two I pointed to, those being quite a bit more challenging and impressive in so far as they are harder to purchase.

In no way am I seeking to belittle titles gained by anyone. I actually have the titles you list on not one but several characters and am working on others, though none are all consolidated onto one character to yield KOABD, so "...but until then don't be a jealous prick." is baseless and frankly cant see where I ruffled your feathers any. It is after all, a topic of what titles impress you.

Sluggs

Sluggs

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2005

Skill hunter is the most interesting title to get IMO, as its grind isn't repetitive. You get to visit many place (without having to hug walls), fight varied enemies (no repetitive farming), and may get a few greens as a bonus. It's good PvE.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by lg5000
What do you mean by 'legit earned Surivors title'?
I think (s)he means people who didn't get power leveled.

Tark Alkerk

Tark Alkerk

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

In a Black Hole

less

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by lambda the great
None impress me, you can buy them all through services from someone...

Cept the Champion(then again maybe you can buy to gvg 50 w/e matches)
and Galdator(who knows mayeb you can still buy)

but there is one....R13+ it's always fun to see those. even if they IWAY all 36000+fame it's still a Sh*t load.
you don't get fame by Iway, you get it playing sprit spam about a year a bit ago, i am looking at you meatball....

also there are some people who have sold there rank 12s over Ebay so its not easy to get a phonenix you just have to pay top dolar for it.

Gun Pierson

Gun Pierson

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

Belgium

PIMP

Mo/

@ aera lure: I was talking about people who don't have a particular title and make it sound like it's a walk in the park. As you wrote yourself, it takes dedication, resources, patience.

The titles you find impressive are pvp titles. Which are in a way the same. It takes dedication, patience and resources (not in the form of gold but skill in pvp, good teamplayers etc). To become good at something you have to do it over and over again, sounds like grinding too.

Aera Lure

Aera Lure

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

In Baltar's head

Bring Out Your Dead [BOYD], former officer [LBS]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gun Pierson
The titles you find impressive are pvp titles. Which are in a way the same. It takes dedication, patience and resources (not in the form of gold but skill). To become good at something you have to do it over and over again, sounds like grinding too.
I agree, except that over time on those you become good at it and not just anyone can get those done. I find them impressive for that reason. Takes a lot of time? You bet. I just till find them more impressive than:

Drunken title: buy a vast sum of ale and idle while you are drunk. Lucky/unlucky is basically the same. Legendary Survivor is get a run to Elona and farm minotaurs for a week. Treasure and Wisdom titles can be had simply through large monetary resources. Protector titles happen during the course of play if you take the time to get them done. Cartographers if you have a character that can run in some fashion are easier, but with a map in hand are not challenging for any profession - just time consuming. Pretty much anyone can get these done if they have access to resources needed and the time.

Now again, not to belittle them in any way. I have and am completing a number of them for the sake of doing and because some (like Skill Hunter) are fun and useful to the character. I guess my only point is how one might define impressive, and mine isnt based on time or the amount of resources one can conjure, as requires the lot of the PvE titles. The PvP titles require time as a consequence of getting good at it, but even then not just anyone can fulfill it and I am impressed by that.

That's not to say I wasnt impressed when I saw a max ranked Allegiance title. Its just a different kind of impressed. More impressed someone had that sort of time.

Seron

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

USA

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Originally Posted by Arkantos
Wisdom Title: Doesn't impress me at all, it's a money sink title.
Treasure Hunter Title: Same as above
Cartographer Title: This title is ok, but it's not that difficult until 90%.
Survivor Title: Easily farmed/bought, doesn't take that much skill.
Drunkard Title: Again, another money sink title. It proves you have money.
Protector Title: Both of them are quite easy, but still quite impressive.
Skill Hunter Title: Not so much as a money sink, shows skill if you have all elites capped.
Gladiator Title: Not that hard to get. It shows you can work with strangers.
Hero Title: This takes more time then skill.
Lucky Title: AKA the AFK title, this is nothing.
Allegiance Title: Proves that you like ABing, not impressive.
Champion Title: It's a nice title, shows that you've PvPed with some good people.
KoaBD: Getting 5 maxed titles does take time, very impressive.
first off, how on earth can you simply say TREASURE HUNTER is a money sink hole?

first you need money, then you need TIME and SKILL just to get to each chest, not only that, but some maps in their entirety only have 3 chests to open, whereas places with a wider range of areas to explore have 5 maximum, now after you take this into consideration, tell me again that it's just a "money sink hole".

it seems to me you're having biased oppinions on certain skills without having actually tried them out.

i've dabbled in just about all of them to realize how hard each is.

The only skill i agree with you on is the wisdom title, that is pure money right there and no skill involved, which is why i decided to earn it on my own without spending cash, so far i'm doing ok at 3000/5000 for r6 on it.

Wisdom Title: if the person has the cash for it, it's to show off how rich you are.

Treasure Hunter Title: EXTREME skill, i'd have to say there are less than 10 people in the game with r7 treasure hunter. (it would take 100 days to get r7 opening 100 chests a day for each of those 100 days [(100 chests = r1 btw)]

Cartographer Title: i find this useless and boring, although >95% is a nice title.
Survivor Title: hard to resist the temptation of death .
Drunkard Title: extreme patience, i know i could never accomplish this.
Protector Title: too easy, not worth a title.
Skill Hunter Title: very hard to cap skills, sometimes have to do entire missions just for 1 skill x however many you need.
Gladiator Title: extremely tough, takes a lot of luck with your team.
Hero Title: over-rated, for pvp players. It is a nice one, but hard to tell if the person actually earned it, or bought it off of ebay.
Lucky Title: shouldnt even be a title.
Allegiance Title: forced to faction farm? i don't find that fun at all, you die, that's it. (people who think you AB for this title have never gone for it, it's pure faction farm is how you get this up)
Champion Title: impressive one, but for pvp people's enjoyment.
KoaBD: not hard to get, but a great title, one of which i'm striving for. (4/5)