have you all read the GW insider about the salvage ability yet

well if u have here it is straight from the insider

We’ll also be updating some existing titles this way. For instance, after Nightfall releases, you’ll actually have a chance of successfully removing a magic component, like a Fiery Sword Hilt, without destroying the item it’s attached to. The Wisdom title (earned by identifying items) will improve your ability to do this.

looks like no more 100% quarentee of salvage

what do u guys think of this and yet no mention of inherent mods yet either.

and a little rant also see below this

for all those said in another post not to worry anet knows what they are doing. heres my first I TOLD YOU SO. no commenting on that rant as thats not the topic, hope you all enjoyed reading the GW insider like i did.I love alot of whats coming with NF.

srry for the extra little rant but it was needed at he end another win win for those new players

Everything that was said has been said in the thread that was shut down. Worthless title should never affect game if I do get 100%.


Anyways the new salvage options are good.

Well, sounds good to me. I dont see what the fuss is about.

and yet that was the exact point i tried to make in that thread.if it wasnt done right it would be bad. well by the GW insider guess what its not being done right.



Tijger Well, sounds good to me. I dont see what the fuss is about.

it stats that ur salvage will be better chance and not 100% guarenteed depending on ur title. thats the fuss

its never 100% so it was probaly 90 before and it will stay 90 and if u up ur title it will increase the % by 1 or 2 per level probaly

well according to the PCGamer article it was gonna be 100%

Of course this is speculating they might increase the drop rate of golds.

Seriously if I was a casual gamer title linking bonus would really bug me to the point of not wanting to play the game. Casual players aren’t really going to befit from the title system bonus.

Other thing that was said too if they are going to implement this that titles that affect game play should all become account based.

Why don't I get the Guild Wars Insider? I didn't know one had come out already. I remember seeing something about it being available to anyone that owned an account, and I definitely own an account :/ But now I can't even find the news announcement that talks about the Insider.

http://www.guildwars.com/insider/issue01.html


you should have gotten an email from anet about it, not sure y u didnt.

Did I miss something? The title effects your ability to remove a mod Without Destroying the Weapon.

Not the rate at which you salvage the mod. High Wisdom = Salvage mod and keep weapon, Low Wisdom = Salvage mod and destroy weapon.

From what I understand, that hit the nail on the head. At least that's the way I took it.

That's absolutely right. If you read what they wrote, higher widom just gives you an increased chance the weapon WON'T be destroyed on salvaging. Everyone that went to the event ANET hosted that got to try Nightfall said that salvaging was 100% and you picked the part.

however it still has on new players. so it does nothing for them. it only helps those that have bought unid, chest runners, the supposedly hated traders that alot of ppl claim they hate. how is this exactly good. these changes are supposedly most for those CASUAL players. however it dont help them except that if they want they now are forced to grind for that title. im by far from a CASUAL player. it wont affect me. look at what Zehnchu said in his post. that would be the effect of this.

Well, lets review the current situation. I have 2 ranks in that category currently and the other day I salvaged a gold axe with 2 mods and got 2 steel and no mod. My title obviously didnt help me one iota.

If this system is implemented I would at least have a much higher chance of getting the mod and even keep the weapon...Yeah, I'm all against that.
So again, whats the fuss about? Its a definite improvement over the current situation.

Players without a title dont lose anything, players with a title get some benefit from it.

What? Let me get this straight, your complaining because somone who has been playing GW since prophecies and likes to work on titles, is gonna have a slight advantage over someone who just started playing? That just doesnt make sense to me.

And whats really funny is how people complain about something that will never directly effect them if they dont want it to. Ok someone with Wisdom might get to keep a weapon.... how is that making the game less fun for you? All it is, is a much needed bonus for titles that are otherwise just for bragging rights.

Everytime Anet makes a significant improvement in the game someone comes along and complains about some minute detail it changes

Well, I personally think manitoba just did a great job outing himself. In his first post, he goes on a "rant" and cheers this as a win for the new players (the new advantage to wisdom title). Then when he finds out he misread and that it just gives you a higher chance you KEEP the weapon and that 100% salvage and mod choice is INDEPENDENT of title, it suddenly becomes a "title advantage is unfair to the new player" rant.

Basically, if the game gives the type of advantage HE wants (> chance keep weapon, no 100% or mod choice), then it's great for new players. If EVERYONE gets a different benefit (100% salvage with mod choice) and yet the bonus stays the same (> chance keep weapon), it becomes unfair to new players.

Transparent at best. This whole "trader use the new player" excuse card is pretty pathetic. The "it gives longer players an unfair advantage over new players" is also the exact opposite they've agrued in the past because the whole thing was a "I put in the time, I deserve a reward, my xxx rare weapon that you can never have without 10,000 hours also and then only if you get lucky to see the drop".

Anyway, this doesn't seem like much of an advantage to me. If I'm salvaging something off a weapon, it's because I want that part, not the weapon. Otherwise I'd just replace the part. It's pretty rare I get an item I want and a perfect mod I'd want on ANOTHER weapon, not that one. To me they took the best road....you get your grind title reward for something that the majority could care less about having happen anyway, while EVERYONE gets the new salvage system that will benefit EVERYONE.

quote by Zehnchu
Seriously if I was a casual gamer title linking bonus would really bug me to the point of not wanting to play the game. Casual players aren’t really going to befit from the title system bonus


and yet this dont bother the rest of u. this is where the fuss is about plain and simple. no it wont affect me at all. BUT AGAIN IT WILL AFFECT THE NEW PLAYER BASE for a while. thats what is keeping the game going the new player base. and yet we get more ME post again. YES its great for us that have been playing awhile, and yet it also gives us an advantage over the new players. remember its not supposed to be time over skill. i was reminded of that so much in my last thread and yet the ME factor remains for alot. go figure. according to u guys so far now ur for the old player base and not the good for new players. nice side changes.


i was being sarcastic in my first post how its a win win for new players. sorry i missed the sarcasim emote when i posted that. i want it fair for all players not just one side. its not an advantage i want at all never said i did. i said i liked alot about NF and i warned about if things werent done right it was gonna screw over one side. well thats what is happening. all i want is its fair for all. nothing more and nothing less. if u still dont get that truelly feel bad for you.

Ya, I got that right after I posted. However, my points in the above post still stand. The current system sure doesn't favor a new player either or reduce grind.

I'm mixed on the whole titles/benefit thing. Lightbringer I see as problematic unless it's just obtained almost automatically by everyone playing through the game. Otherwise we start seeing "LF mm and monk, must have LB TITLE DISPLAYED" issues. The Wisdom hardly seems like much of a benefit to me, for the reason stated above. The only time it offers a REAL advantage I see is if you had a crudy req / skin with 2 PERFECT MODS you actually wanted. Then you would get both and not just one due to the 100% salvage system.
Realistically, I think I've only seen that happen maybe 1-2 times for me on items. The remainder depends on the bonuses and implementation, but yes, I do see problems with this, just NOT so much on Wisdom.

Does anyone think that the price of UND golds might rise ?

The OP has everything: atrocious grammar and spelling, poor reading comprehension, yet another salvaging and titles rant, and unbridled sanctimony. This horse has -60 DP.