Starting in Elona as Rt or A?
Arx Baron
I wondered if it would be possible, and i can't find if it's been said already officially or not
CyberMesh0
Campaign specific professions can *only* be started from their core continent. You can take an Assassin or Ritualist into Nightfall from Factions, but starting them from Elona is not possible. The same goes for starting Paragons or Dervishes in Factions or Prophecies.
Horseman Of War
while you cant start a *new* assassin or rit, I am definately looking forward to using both in Nightfall asap... my rit wont change too much (usually run all-rit skills), but my assassin is eagerly awaiting spear mastery for my Crit Spear
gr3g
As said in this thread, YES, you CAN create Assassins and Ritualists in Elona, but ONLY IF you own Factions.
Hat tip to Lord Palidore.
Hat tip to Lord Palidore.
Omega X
I'll believe it when I see it. (In game that is.)
Lord Palidore
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Originally Posted by gr3g
As said in this thread, YES, you CAN create Assassins and Ritualists in Elona, but ONLY IF you own Factions.
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.Here's the direct link:
http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=91406exy4.jpg
Look a little below the halfway point in the chatlog, Gaile said that you CANT create assassins and ritualist in Elona soley, but you CAN if you own Factions.
Dont know where the above posters got the idea that certain classes are chapter specific anyways..Anet never said that.
I do agree though with the comment that paragons and dervishes wont be able to be made in previous chapters, but I do believe they too will be available in chapter 4 along with Factions classes.
The reason as I see it is because it would be too much of a hassle for the developing team to go back to all the previous chapters..They would need to redo a LOT of dialogue, quest, newbie-zones, weapons, skill trainers, quest rewards, armor, etc, etc.
With new chapters though, they can put it right in smoothly as they go along.
The Hand Of Death
I read it and it doesn't say, "yes definately you can make them in nightfall" it just says that they are chapter specific and you can't make them unless you own factions.
Quid Pro Quo
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Originally Posted by The Hand Of Death
I read it and it doesn't say, "yes definately you can make them in nightfall" it just says that they are chapter specific and you can't make them unless you own factions.
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I have a hard time believing that we could make them in Elona if we couldn't do it during the recent preview event.
Lord Palidore
She said, "No, if you do not own Factions you will not be able to create Assassins or Ritualist in Nightfall."
You may be right, but the wording in that seems to imply that you can create it if you own Factions..with a subsitute of opposites for a couple words:
"Yes (no), if you do (not) own Factions you will (not) be able to create Assassins and (or) Ritualist in Nightfall."
Lol
To the post above mine, yeah I can see your point, so this may be true. You also need to remember that it was a beta test, mainly to stress the servers, test new skills, the new profession, etc. and that we were also indeed missing many things in that preview.
It's true, the answer doesn't seem to be as clear as it could be however, so I guess we need to wait 4 more days and see.
You may be right, but the wording in that seems to imply that you can create it if you own Factions..with a subsitute of opposites for a couple words:
"Yes (no), if you do (not) own Factions you will (not) be able to create Assassins and (or) Ritualist in Nightfall."
Lol
To the post above mine, yeah I can see your point, so this may be true. You also need to remember that it was a beta test, mainly to stress the servers, test new skills, the new profession, etc. and that we were also indeed missing many things in that preview.
It's true, the answer doesn't seem to be as clear as it could be however, so I guess we need to wait 4 more days and see.
Mr_eX
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Originally Posted by Quid Pro Quo
I have a hard time believing that we could make them in Elona if we couldn't do it during the recent preview event.
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Long story short, don't count on it.
arcanemacabre
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Originally Posted by Gaile
No, if you do not own Factions you will not be able to create Assassins or Ritualist in Nightfall.
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EDIT: To me, that's clear confirmation. Although I don't personally care since I will be bringing my Canthan Ritualist over, and I don't plan on creating an Assassin.
Arx Baron
I was wondering, because, there are not any Core Skills in the Rt or A skill panel. Only Factions skills and Nightfall Skills. So for an hypothetic Elonian Rt, I can't believe he'll only have access to the Nightfall skills if he stays in Elona.
arcanemacabre
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Originally Posted by Arx Baron
I was wondering, because, there are not any Core Skills in the Rt or A skill panel. Only Factions skills and Nightfall Skills. So for an hypothetic Elonian Rt, I can't believe he'll only have access to the Nightfall skills if he stays in Elona.
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Lady Lozza
Personally I'm in the boat with those who think "no". But honestly it isn't clear. Besides Gaile (in that very chat log?) said a number of things which, when queried later, turned out to be poor wording or a misunderstanding of the things she had seen in the dev servers.
My feeling about being able to create these two profession in Elona... Not good. The character creation screen is crowded enough as it is, why add more? And no, I don't want arrows, I want all my selections in front of me.
My feeling about being able to create these two profession in Elona... Not good. The character creation screen is crowded enough as it is, why add more? And no, I don't want arrows, I want all my selections in front of me.
Ninna
no one knows for sure,
probably not
this is what Gaile said - twist it as you wish
related thread
Can Faction chars start in Nightfall?
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10053829
probably not
this is what Gaile said - twist it as you wish
related thread
Can Faction chars start in Nightfall?
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10053829
Commander Ryker
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Originally Posted by Quid Pro Quo
Yeah thats all I see as well. I was hoping for a clearer answer.
I have a hard time believing that we could make them in Elona if we couldn't do it during the recent preview event. |
Da Scotty
lol very
Anyway why should people not be allowed too? (if they own factions i mean)
Anyway why should people not be allowed too? (if they own factions i mean)
thezed
Culturally, the Assasin and Ritualist are specific to Cantha. You will not be able to create Ass or Rits in Nightfall. I would bet money on it.
You can create them in Cantha and move them to Elona, but those classes are specific to Cantha born citezens. Just as Derv and Parg will be for Elona born only.
Anyone whant to take me up on my bet?
You can create them in Cantha and move them to Elona, but those classes are specific to Cantha born citezens. Just as Derv and Parg will be for Elona born only.
Anyone whant to take me up on my bet?
noir0
Well for the people saying they don't think there will be sin's or rits in nightfall because of the world preview.. well, think about it. Why would anet want to show of assasins in nightffall if it was a 'nightfall' preview?
Wouldn't that be giving free factions content for those who were allowed to play the preview who didn't have factions? Isn't anet (well probably ncsoft) known for being strict with not allowing you to have free content from other gw titles? :P
Wouldn't that be giving free factions content for those who were allowed to play the preview who didn't have factions? Isn't anet (well probably ncsoft) known for being strict with not allowing you to have free content from other gw titles? :P
Commander Ryker
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Originally Posted by thezed
Culturally, the Assasin and Ritualist are specific to Cantha. You will not be able to create Ass or Rits in Nightfall. I would bet money on it.
You can create them in Cantha and move them to Elona, but those classes are specific to Cantha born citezens. Just as Derv and Parg will be for Elona born only. Anyone whant to take me up on my bet? |
If you have factions, then you will be able to make a sin and rit in Elonia.
thezed
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Originally Posted by Commander Ryker
I'll take that bet, how much we talking here? GW money of course.
If you have factions, then you will be able to make a sin and rit in Elonia. |
You in? Anyone else want a piece of the action? Winnings will be split among all winners evenly.
XvArchonvX
Honestly, I hope you can't create 'sins and rits in Nightfall if for no other reason than to not have to see any more "Assasin LFG PLEASE TAKE ME!!" spams from 'sins that no one will take. There are enough of those in and coming from Factions.
Kais Unduli
My rit already has every skill unlocked, and she's possibly my first character I'm taking over to Elona.
You guys can twist Gaile's words all you want, but we've been told ad nauseam that we can't make rits or sins in Nightfall because they are specific professions to Factions. But hey, you never know.
You guys can twist Gaile's words all you want, but we've been told ad nauseam that we can't make rits or sins in Nightfall because they are specific professions to Factions. But hey, you never know.
Phoebe
No, you can NOT start an Assassin or a Ritualist in Nightfall because:
1. It has been said ad nauseum that chapter specific professions can only be created in that very chapter.
2. We could NOT create an Assassin or Ritualist primary in the Nightfall preview event.
3. We could NOT select an Assassin or Ritualist secondary in the Nightfall preview event.
4. What Gaile said was that you could not create an Assassin or Ritualist unless you own Factions. She NEVER implied that we could create Assassin or Ritualist in Nightfall.
1. It has been said ad nauseum that chapter specific professions can only be created in that very chapter.
2. We could NOT create an Assassin or Ritualist primary in the Nightfall preview event.
3. We could NOT select an Assassin or Ritualist secondary in the Nightfall preview event.
4. What Gaile said was that you could not create an Assassin or Ritualist unless you own Factions. She NEVER implied that we could create Assassin or Ritualist in Nightfall.
WLlama
My educated guess would be you can not create an assassin or ritualist in NightFall. What supports this guess? You can't create an assassin/ritualist in Prophecies even if you own both campaigns. Assuming you could create an assassin/ritualist in NightFall would imply you should be able to make a dervish/paragon in every campaign...also unlikely.
So, since the dervish/paragon and assassin/ritualist are culture specific, they will likely be raised on their base continent before spreading like wildfire to the other continents.
That said, we will all know in about 3 1/2 days.
So, since the dervish/paragon and assassin/ritualist are culture specific, they will likely be raised on their base continent before spreading like wildfire to the other continents.
That said, we will all know in about 3 1/2 days.
CyberMesh0
As I said at the beginning. You can only create chapter specific professions on their home continents, then move them as you will between other continents you can access. That is what Gaile meant.
Commander Ryker
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Lets make it a friendly 5k gold. Verification by screen shot and guarantee of payment will be on the honor system (no 3rd party holding the gold or stuff like that). Just a friendly wager.
You in? Anyone else want a piece of the action? Winnings will be split among all winners evenly. |
What Gaile said was, if you do not have factions, then you will not be able to create a rit or sin in Nightfall.
Zehnchu
Think there will be some disappointed people when they find out that they can’t create an Assassin nor Ritualist in nightfall. As other have said they are chapter orientated classes and you have to have factions and to which they are born in Cantha.
Also that would mean their skills would also be split in into three categories Core, Factions, Nightfall. And there is no listing of Core skills.
Also that would mean their skills would also be split in into three categories Core, Factions, Nightfall. And there is no listing of Core skills.
Commander Ryker
Look closely at what she's saying. "If you do not have factions, you will not be able to create Assassins or Ritualists in Nightfall" Then she says, "Assassins and Rits are non-core professions, so you must own Factions to create and play them"
No where in that does she say you can't make them in Nightfall. She did say that you can make them in Nightfall if you own Factions.
Why can't you all see this? I don't understand it.
Quid Pro Quo
I think what she means is that if you don't own Factions you can't play an Assassin or Ritualist in Nightfall.
I'd be willing to bet 5k also.
So no, I don't think you'll be able to MAKE them in Elona.
I'd be willing to bet 5k also.
So no, I don't think you'll be able to MAKE them in Elona.
Commander Ryker
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I think what she means is that if you don't own Factions you can't play an Assassin or Ritualist in Nightfall.
I'd be willing to bet 5k also. |
So, you're on my side of the bet then? Just making sure since you didn't seem to know earlier.
Arkantos
This thread is going nowhere. We'll find out when Nightfall is released.