Since "masters" was introduced, I find it much harder to find a group that will take low lvl chars when doing missions, lvl 15 and under, and in many cases they are looking for lvl 20..most times it was always a shortage of monks that made you wait incessantly, now its both.
Factions is much easier to lvl than Prophercies, so why even have it in Factions at all ?
Dr Wu
Masters has made it harder to find PUGS
Dr Wu
Exoudeous
well the only missiosn you wouldnt be level 20 are the first 2 (and the first 2 can get masters easy with lower levels). any after that you should really be level 20 already
From what I saw in nightfall it seems the missions have a mixture of time/bonus master ranks
From what I saw in nightfall it seems the missions have a mixture of time/bonus master ranks
sykoone
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well the only missiosn you wouldnt be level 20 are the first 2 (and the first 2 can get masters easy with lower levels). any after that you should really be level 20 already
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Winterclaw
You are pretty much expected to be level 20 by vizhuna square and it isn't that hard or take that long to get there.
Me And The Henchies
I've seen a level 17 in Vizunah Square.
Dr Wu
I'm lvl 16, and I made it with henchies, after many tries with pugs (Mayhem in the City mission)..there was also a lvl 10 there when I arrived.
fenix
It's not Masters that made it this way. The Protector of Tyria/Cantha titles made it so. If people want to get the title, they can't afford taking low level players, as they won't get the bonus/masters that they are after.
LifeInfusion
If you're talking about Factions, getting to level 20 with 200 attribute points should take less than 2 days. So no, I don't think it is a big deal.
A bigger problem is people wearing newbie armor in lvl20+ missions (especially warriors).
A bigger problem is people wearing newbie armor in lvl20+ missions (especially warriors).
Swinging Fists
Yes, there are plenty of sub-20's in Vizunah Square. I've seen very low levels like level 10 there as well. So what? They are probably still sitting there because they are completely worthless as far as contributing to the rest of the team. If you aren't level 20 by Vizunah Square, or at least close, then you obviously don't care about your character, so why should anyone else ? Take the time (only about 7 hours) to level up to 20 and then people will take you into their groups.
Minus Sign
i've seen a level 6 on the co-op mission...over and over again with henchies trying to get tyrians to give him a free run. Last time I said to the group wait a minute; he'll rezone and we can get henchies. We waited a minute, got all canthan henchies and went for it.
I honetly don't see what people are doing trying to run their toons through at low levels. Is having to do the same mission over and over again really saving you time? Compared to other Online RPGs, guild Wars leveling tredmill is extrememly fast. Quest an hour or two; do it right for crying out loud.
I honetly don't see what people are doing trying to run their toons through at low levels. Is having to do the same mission over and over again really saving you time? Compared to other Online RPGs, guild Wars leveling tredmill is extrememly fast. Quest an hour or two; do it right for crying out loud.
AaronSwitchblade
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If you're talking about Factions, getting to level 20 with 200 attribute points should take less than 2 days. So no, I don't think it is a big deal.
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Seriously, there IS a difficulty spike when you hit the mainland in GWF. I do think it was a bit of an oversight. Saying "people should grind before they get there" or whatever doesn't account for it; I never needed to do anything of the sort in Prophecies. By the time I got somewhere I was always the correct level for it, in Factions that isn't necessarily the case.
Terra Xin
It doesn't take grind to get to where you need to be in factions. That chapter is specifically designed to get you to level 20 a.s.a.p. If you can't do that then the issue is with your own playstyle.
Not A Fifty Five
I've been level 19 at like.. tahankai temple >.< You just have to START a group if you wanna be low level. Everyones lazy. They'll come cause they dont wanna be leader
0mar
Who needs pugs with heroes anyways? I'd take my heroes and my friend's heroes over any pug any day. Heroes don't draw penises on the radar, swear at you for telling them their skillbar is bad and don't go afk halfway through the mission.
tomcruisejr
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Who needs pugs with heroes anyways? I'd take my heroes and my friend's heroes over any pug any day. Heroes don't draw penises on the radar, swear at you for telling them their skillbar is bad and don't go afk halfway through the mission.
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ahahaha qft
draxynnic
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It doesn't take grind to get to where you need to be in factions. That chapter is specifically designed to get you to level 20 a.s.a.p. If you can't do that then the issue is with your own playstyle.
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Heck, I finished off getting Survivor for my first Elonian that way... then realised that sooner or later I probably will be looking to get Quivering Blade for her (she's a P/W, and at some point - probably after she finally dies for the first time
- I will be looking into taking her into melee every so often). Oh well, the Am Fah aren't all that tough, so I guess I'll get the majority of the quests in that zone done and then put up with having to clobber them every so often.'Bout time I did the 'Refuse to Drink' side of that quest, anyway...