When my ranger got close to Legendary survivor title, I decided to secure it. I used xp scrolls and the allies from the Welcome To Cantha quest and just farmed Jade Brotherhood and Am Fah groups until I got the title. Since I was so far into the title track, I never let my health go down below 50%. If it did, I close the GW window. I don't use any henchies. Instead I left the Welcome to Cantha quest unfinished so I get enough allies to use as henchies. That way I get all the xp. Along with xp scrolls, which I was able to keep on buying with the drops I got, it didn't take that long.
Look for a sure way to get the title and you'll be fine. You'll even get some gold and other good drops now and then.
Survivor title...gone...
Linksys
Russell.Crowe
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Survivor title is the most stupid title imo, forcing you to play for the good of yourself, instead of playing for the good of the team. Seems contradictionary with the game spirit.
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BTW it is not hard for assassins to find groups, that is a bunch of bullshit. I was able to find people for every mission of factions with relative ease. It is amazing what the survivor title can do for an assassin. The amount of damage they put out on a single target even in PvE is amazing, and it is way more effective than recruiting another tank.
Cid
Tried for survivor titles. Died once. Got annoyed
my /deaths now = 1217
Face. Bothered. Bothered. Face
my /deaths now = 1217
Face. Bothered. Bothered. Face
Katari
It sounds like bad players going for survivor give the good players who are going for it a bad name. As I was going for survivor on my mesmer, I can't recall ragequiting a PUG to stay alive. But I can recall a bunch of times where I was the last player alive. The PUGs that I played with showed an astonishing inability, or refusal to kite, and generally acted like they were trying to die. I either was able to get everyone up with res-chant, or I just suggested we /resign (because I couldn't res anyone safely, and at that point it dosn't matter if the player is a survivor).
As Russell.Crowe mentions, if you're good at the class you play, you shouldn't have problems. If you need to take up half of your bar with defensive skills on anything but a monk, rit, or para (who could have those on their bar anway, but not just for personal use!), just to stay alive, I think you're doing something very wrong. If anything, the experence made me a better player.
If you're paranoid that PUGs will spontaniously explode (they typicly don't explode fast enough to kill you), and kill your survivor, I strongly suggest playing with henchies, heros, and friends. Assuming of course that you and your friends are better than the average PUG. I don't suggest this because henchie's don't rage as much when you alt-f4, but because they're more dependable, and less likely to put you in deadly situations than the average PUG.
PvE is easy. Good, cautious players should not have problems staying alive. Survivor just takes a little persistance, and the common sense to avoid certain ele bosses. That being said, if you don't know the area well, playing it for the first time with a survivor is a good way to get killed.
As Russell.Crowe mentions, if you're good at the class you play, you shouldn't have problems. If you need to take up half of your bar with defensive skills on anything but a monk, rit, or para (who could have those on their bar anway, but not just for personal use!), just to stay alive, I think you're doing something very wrong. If anything, the experence made me a better player.
If you're paranoid that PUGs will spontaniously explode (they typicly don't explode fast enough to kill you), and kill your survivor, I strongly suggest playing with henchies, heros, and friends. Assuming of course that you and your friends are better than the average PUG. I don't suggest this because henchie's don't rage as much when you alt-f4, but because they're more dependable, and less likely to put you in deadly situations than the average PUG.
PvE is easy. Good, cautious players should not have problems staying alive. Survivor just takes a little persistance, and the common sense to avoid certain ele bosses. That being said, if you don't know the area well, playing it for the first time with a survivor is a good way to get killed.
pingu666
i managed to get rank 1 survivor on my assassin 
. large amount of luck needed, and i carefully selected quests todo..
. large amount of luck needed, and i carefully selected quests todo..
xxSilhouette
That really sucks 
I havent had this happen myself, I've only tried at the survivor title once though, and I died right after reaching level 20 and i got the title - so i didnt go any further with it, and I find it very very hard to work on, I know if i were to do that, something bad would happen like that.
That was who i got my survivor title on as well it was pretty dang hard.
I havent had this happen myself, I've only tried at the survivor title once though, and I died right after reaching level 20 and i got the title - so i didnt go any further with it, and I find it very very hard to work on, I know if i were to do that, something bad would happen like that.Quote:
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it was pretty dang hard.
SoulFlayer
Actually, had the same sort of thing happen to me recently. Started a warrior about a week ago with intent of getting Survivor 3 if I could. Since Elona and Tyria's xp rate is significantly slower than Cantha's, I decided I'd work on that after Ascending in Tyria.
So few days later, I had ascended, without dying, and went to work on Cantha. Cleared most of the city in a few hours, only coming near death once (200hp) and I just closed the game. Coming back after that, I made sure to check /deaths (returned 0) and continued on.
Got to Arborstone and near the end Danika managed to get herself killed by running around the group of Oni and into the statues at the end of the mission.. Now, deaths due to things like that aren't susposed to count (I was at full health at the time, so I know for sure I didn't die from an attack), but when I checked anyway, my /deaths returned 1.
Odd thing was, I was at 325kxp and the xp counter had apparently stopped back at 295k, which is where ascending had put me. I hadn't gone afk for more than a few seconds in an area with any hostiles (a few times longer in outposts, yes) and I had never noticed any DP coming back to the screen, nor was I ever started a res shrine I hadn't been at before. The death was just given to me, and I have no idea how, why or exactly where it would've been.
Kind of sucks, but it was more of a 'see if I could do it' thing than 'must have survivor 3'. Disappointed it was gone, but not enough so to remake a character I put that much time into. Be nice if they fixed that bug (or whatever is causing that) though, as I have heard of it happening to others in my guild.
So few days later, I had ascended, without dying, and went to work on Cantha. Cleared most of the city in a few hours, only coming near death once (200hp) and I just closed the game. Coming back after that, I made sure to check /deaths (returned 0) and continued on.
Got to Arborstone and near the end Danika managed to get herself killed by running around the group of Oni and into the statues at the end of the mission.. Now, deaths due to things like that aren't susposed to count (I was at full health at the time, so I know for sure I didn't die from an attack), but when I checked anyway, my /deaths returned 1.
Odd thing was, I was at 325kxp and the xp counter had apparently stopped back at 295k, which is where ascending had put me. I hadn't gone afk for more than a few seconds in an area with any hostiles (a few times longer in outposts, yes) and I had never noticed any DP coming back to the screen, nor was I ever started a res shrine I hadn't been at before. The death was just given to me, and I have no idea how, why or exactly where it would've been.
Kind of sucks, but it was more of a 'see if I could do it' thing than 'must have survivor 3'. Disappointed it was gone, but not enough so to remake a character I put that much time into. Be nice if they fixed that bug (or whatever is causing that) though, as I have heard of it happening to others in my guild.
Russell.Crowe
meh the first survivor is easy to get, took me 5 hours (canthan character), its the level 3 survivor that is tricky =P
Caspar
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I like the idea of the survivor title, but the implementation is seriously lacking. In any internet game, lag or other factors beyond one's control will occasionally cause "unfair things" (false deaths, buggy areas, moonwalking, etc) to happen. The current survivor implementation makes it difficult to obtain the title, at least legitimately -- it actually encourages dropping out of missions to protect yourself, and restarting your character from scratch whether you really got killed or the game decided to "kill you" (grind anyone?).
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If the title were ever so easy to obtain, it would not be desired and be gazed upon by jealous eyes while cursed upon by the owner of those eyes.
Take my charactor for example. She's guildless and almost goldless managed to get rank 3 survivor so I am sure most of you can as well. I spent most of the gold on signets and managed to get the 15K body a while after reaching rank 3. Just got the 15K leg piece recently (gray). Henched every mission except Vizunah Square. And yes, I have had my share of failures while attempting the title. She's at her 3rd incarnation. The first attempt failed shortly after reaching rank 2 and the second attempt failed about 200K shy of rank 3. Of course, I don't have to remention the causes of death... (see above).
TideSwayer
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An easy "fix" would be to make it consecutive experiance, so if you messed up, you could still try again on the same toon.
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The Millard
I wish I had the time and anger managment to do this The outcome of me dieing in the game after getting really close to Legendary survivor would probably be bad for my computer(especially if the scenario was like the OPs).
The outcome of me dieing in the game after getting really close to Legendary survivor would probably be bad for my computer(especially if the scenario was like the OPs).
EPO Bot
I got indomitable, then got killed by Varesh. But i won't complain since lvl2 survivor doesn't exactly look nub either.
Cass
As with most 'prestige' titles, you can go about getting it in cool as well as uncool ways. I'm sure there are people who get rushed to Lutgardis and play FFF doorman there all the way to the title, and even though that may be a long grind towards lvl3, it doesn't deserve any respect.
However, don't dismiss the whole thing on potential flaws. There are people who get it legitly and worked hard and fair for it. I have two guildies who got to lvl3 on a Canthan ranger and an Assassin, and they earned it honestly.
Yes, I did it too-- got legendary on my Tyrian mesmer by playing through the whole Tyrian campaign, all quests too, and doing most of Cantha too. It was quite hard and I had to make a restart at 860.000 (my first attempt), but I found it to be really enjoyable and it changed the way I experience the game.
I should add that lag is an unnecessary frustration. The game keeps you hanging in limbo for an incredible amount of time, getting you "killed" while you're in fact frozen. I lagged out once and my guildie observed me standing there from the moment I said I was stuck (on vent) for well over a minute. Luckily nothing happened as we were not in fight, but Anet should consider to speed up the time-out process IMO.
However, don't dismiss the whole thing on potential flaws. There are people who get it legitly and worked hard and fair for it. I have two guildies who got to lvl3 on a Canthan ranger and an Assassin, and they earned it honestly.
Yes, I did it too-- got legendary on my Tyrian mesmer by playing through the whole Tyrian campaign, all quests too, and doing most of Cantha too. It was quite hard and I had to make a restart at 860.000 (my first attempt), but I found it to be really enjoyable and it changed the way I experience the game.
I should add that lag is an unnecessary frustration. The game keeps you hanging in limbo for an incredible amount of time, getting you "killed" while you're in fact frozen. I lagged out once and my guildie observed me standing there from the moment I said I was stuck (on vent) for well over a minute. Luckily nothing happened as we were not in fight, but Anet should consider to speed up the time-out process IMO.
Swinging Fists
One possible solution to prevent a lag death when you are playing with a partner is to type "/resign" at the beginning of the quest or mission. Then if you are in a lag spike and under attack, if your partner can't save you - he can /resign. Obviously, this won't work when you are solo, but it's something to keep in mind.
Russell.Crowe
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One possible solution to prevent a lag death when you are playing with a partner is to type "/resign" at the beginning of the quest or mission. Then if you are in a lag spike and under attack, if your partner can't save you - he can /resign. Obviously, this won't work when you are solo, but it's something to keep in mind.
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Katari
I think the idea there is that if you're lagging, the signal to the server indicating that you've decided to log out will be lagged as well.
lg5000
There is a faster way to log out other than F12 or hitting that little x on the top right.. Alt + F4.
The other two methods have managed to get me killed on a survivor trip, Alt F4 has worked wonders though
The other two methods have managed to get me killed on a survivor trip, Alt F4 has worked wonders though
Russell.Crowe
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I think the idea there is that if you're lagging, the signal to the server indicating that you've decided to log out will be lagged as well.
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there isn't a dang thing you can do if the lag is from the server
bubbadoll
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Odd thing was, I was at 325kxp and the xp counter had apparently stopped back at 295k, which is where ascending had put me. I hadn't gone afk for more than a few seconds in an area with any hostiles (a few times longer in outposts, yes) and I had never noticed any DP coming back to the screen, nor was I ever started a res shrine I hadn't been at before. The death was just given to me, and I have no idea how, why or exactly where it would've been.
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"Our developers will not be able to personally respond to you to let you know the status of this issue or any related fix, but please be assured that they are looking into the issue."
"If this issue is confirmed as one that requires change, it will be placed on a list and prioritized along with any other issues that exist in the game. In the direst of emergencies, some high-priority issues are scheduled to be fixed within days or even hours of when the issue is first discovered. However, please understand that most issues take several weeks or months before a fix is designed, constructed, tested, and eventually passed into the live game environment."
whatever :\
so... anyway, working on another survivor because i'm OCD styles.. lol
but ill alt F4 out of any cutscene from now on.
Enchanted Warrior
GW has added silent assassins that stalk afkr's.. Muauhahahahahahaha
peterchen620
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i wrote to support a while back regarding the vizunah square mission.. i completed the mission once and everyone skipped cutscene.. no worries.. did other quests.. lots of skill capturing.. laa dee dah.. then i cant remember why but i decided to do the mission again.. no deaths during mission.. one person did not skip cutscene.. as i sat there and i watched... i see shiro kill us.. horrified i thought it better not have count.. and it sure did.. u have died 1 time.. pfft.. anyway, support wrote back:
"Our developers will not be able to personally respond to you to let you know the status of this issue or any related fix, but please be assured that they are looking into the issue." "If this issue is confirmed as one that requires change, it will be placed on a list and prioritized along with any other issues that exist in the game. In the direst of emergencies, some high-priority issues are scheduled to be fixed within days or even hours of when the issue is first discovered. However, please understand that most issues take several weeks or months before a fix is designed, constructed, tested, and eventually passed into the live game environment." whatever :\ so... anyway, working on another survivor because i'm OCD styles.. lol but ill alt F4 out of any cutscene from now on. |
Sir Skullcrasher
I tried to do Survivor title on my Nightfall ranger. Got her to level 10 than one day, went outside and got killed by group of Herpy! Ever since, I didn't try to remake my ranger and get her the Survivor Title. My Dervish on the other hand is currently level 6 and I wanted her to get the Survivor Title but knowning how slow it is to level up in Nightfall, I have to be careful doing quests and missions with her.
Curse You
For people attempting Survivor, Paragons are your friends. I have yet to die on my paragon, who is now well over level 20 with several elite captures. However, I have hardly been trying hard to get the title. All I have done is, avoided as much as possible, entering into fights that I know I could loose. As such, that means that I have avoided doing difficulty Master quests, because those have a high tendancy of causing a high number of deaths, for a reward that is hardly worth it.
Grolubao
Play a Survivor doing all the quests as I am doing and you will rediscover a whole new game!
I have reached Indomitable, now going for legendary.
Anyway, I'm terribly sorry for the OP... Cheer up
I have reached Indomitable, now going for legendary.
Anyway, I'm terribly sorry for the OP... Cheer up
Clerihew
I haven't heard about the problem experienced by the OP but it makes me nervous. I have put a lot of work into my survivor who is going for the third level at the moment. I have got to the second level through playing rather than cheating (but my guildies did help by superior monking from time to time) and to think I might lose out on the max through a glitch is worrying...
Sir Skullcrasher
I heard Factions is the easiest place to get Survivor Titles since you level up quickly in the noobie island and the quests and mission from early part of the game is not that diffcult. I currenlty have a new assassin made and hopefully I can get him the Survivor Title.
Clerihew
I played through prophecies and factions with my survivor and found prophecies much easier. But that might be because I was more familiar with prophecies when I started.
I think Assassin might be challenging to get the title with unless you really play it well or use it as a ranger etc.
I think Assassin might be challenging to get the title with unless you really play it well or use it as a ranger etc.
Incandecree
Well,
I was out exploring with my mesmer with 1.25M in experience and started into a battle... no problem... all of the sudden lag hit me big time (54,996ms ping time). I look again and my mesmer was eating dirt.
Currently I have a paragon with 500k in XP and a dervish with 350k in XP. Working slowly through missions and quests. My paragon is upto the Mouth of Torment in Nightfall.
Anyways I feel many of your pains due to my dying within sight of level 3 survivor.
I was out exploring with my mesmer with 1.25M in experience and started into a battle... no problem... all of the sudden lag hit me big time (54,996ms ping time). I look again and my mesmer was eating dirt.
Currently I have a paragon with 500k in XP and a dervish with 350k in XP. Working slowly through missions and quests. My paragon is upto the Mouth of Torment in Nightfall.
Anyways I feel many of your pains due to my dying within sight of level 3 survivor.
Express2022
Hard Missions That May Cause "Spike Deaths"
Faction: The Last 3 Missions of Faction
Night Fall: The Last 4 Missions of Night Fall, Consult Docks - The Ele Boss
Prophecies: Fighting Glint
Missions Cut Scenes to Avoid
Anything that forces Your character to Attacks, or Take Damage. *Avoid*
Tip: Vizunah Square Once you reach the Last Cut Scene, Log Off. If Players Do not plain on skipping.
Avoid: Multiple Groups Clustered together, Try to pull /or Attack One group at a time.
When Facing Lvl 24-28s Take more caution to Elementalist. They Can Seriously spike hard, especially air eles.
When You know you're not going to win Quit.
Always Maintain 75% Hp - 50% Hp.
Always Have a Heal Skill that's Instant, and Not Regen.
This is what I noticed I hope this will be very helpful in achieving Legendary.
P.S. I've got 4 Characters /w Legendary Survivor
My Paragon has 3,782,087 Exp
/w Zero Deaths!
Faction: The Last 3 Missions of Faction
Night Fall: The Last 4 Missions of Night Fall, Consult Docks - The Ele Boss
Prophecies: Fighting Glint
Missions Cut Scenes to Avoid
Anything that forces Your character to Attacks, or Take Damage. *Avoid*
Tip: Vizunah Square Once you reach the Last Cut Scene, Log Off. If Players Do not plain on skipping.
Avoid: Multiple Groups Clustered together, Try to pull /or Attack One group at a time.
When Facing Lvl 24-28s Take more caution to Elementalist. They Can Seriously spike hard, especially air eles.
When You know you're not going to win Quit.
Always Maintain 75% Hp - 50% Hp.
Always Have a Heal Skill that's Instant, and Not Regen.
This is what I noticed
I hope this will be very helpful in achieving Legendary.P.S. I've got 4 Characters /w Legendary Survivor
My Paragon has 3,782,087 Exp
leprekan
Survivor in 13 hours ... I leveled my ele (nightfall) to level 14 on Elona then caught a ride to la/factions. Doing just the quests outside K center gives enough exp to hit survivor title VERY QUICKLY. This was done with heroes and henchies only no lvl20 friends.
Sir Skullcrasher
It's funny how I lost my survivor title on my ranger because of my instinct of not wanting to quit or stop. I was doing bunch of quests to level her up and I happened to get one from a town person who asked me to attck group of harpy around the area. So I went off (with only 3 peoples, me/koss/and dunkoro?) and we got ambushed by huge group of harpy. I could have avoid dying by 1) getting another person into the group or getting real players to help 2) avoid aggroing two mobs at once and 3) log off and work on my other characters. For my dervish and sin, I'm going to take my time to get to level 1 survivor.
Grais
I agreee with the poster who said the title is contrary to the spirit of the game, and for that reason alone, I dont want to ever have it. Each to their own tho, I play to have fun, and the occasional death is not something I get worked up over.
That said I feel for a person who does the work only to get shafted by a game glitch or a bad run of lag.
That being said, this, no offense intended, quiote that follows sounds like a pretty boring way to play the game, wheres the excitement the hanging on by the skin of your teeth feeling, that is why I love this game, cause it gets my heart pumping, haveing to play according to some set of arbitrary 'survivor' rules would ruin the game for me.
That said I feel for a person who does the work only to get shafted by a game glitch or a bad run of lag.
That being said, this, no offense intended, quiote that follows sounds like a pretty boring way to play the game, wheres the excitement the hanging on by the skin of your teeth feeling, that is why I love this game, cause it gets my heart pumping, haveing to play according to some set of arbitrary 'survivor' rules would ruin the game for me.
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Hard Missions That May Cause "Spike Deaths" Faction: The Last 3 Missions of Faction Night Fall: The Last 4 Missions of Night Fall, Consult Docks - The Ele Boss Prophecies: Fighting Glint Missions Cut Scenes to Avoid Anything that forces Your character to Attacks, or Take Damage. *Avoid* Tip: Vizunah Square Once you reach the Last Cut Scene, Log Off. If Players Do not plain on skipping. Avoid: Multiple Groups Clustered together, Try to pull /or Attack One group at a time. When Facing Lvl 24-28s Take more caution to Elementalist. They Can Seriously spike hard, especially air eles. When You know you're not going to win Quit. Always Maintain 75% Hp - 50% Hp. Always Have a Heal Skill that's Instant, and Not Regen. |
DeanBB
I agree with Grais. One of the first things I do with a new toon is go out and get killed so I don't have to worry about the title.
Whiplashr
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If the title were ever so easy to obtain, it would not be desired and be gazed upon by jealous eyes while cursed upon by the owner of those eyes.
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Navaros
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As with most 'prestige' titles, you can go about getting it in cool as well as uncool ways. I'm sure there are people who get rushed to Lutgardis and play FFF doorman there all the way to the title, and even though that may be a long grind towards lvl3, it doesn't deserve any respect.
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Getting tier 3 Survivor from Lut deserves a ton of respect. It's not easy for most players to get to Lut without dying. If it was then everybody would have Legendary Survivor. In reality, very very few players have Legendary Survivor because they are incapable of getting to Lut without dying. That says something about how much skill and smart playing it takes to do that relative to the majority of GW players.
After reading a lot of the posts in this thread, it seems many people lost the title by deliberately putting themselves in positions where they might die. Therefore in those cases it's their own fault that they lost the title. Focus on not dying, period, and not putting yourself in any situation where you might die, and getting to Legendary Survivor is not that hard for a good player to do. But still deserving of mad respect since most players can't get it.
Sekkira
Legendary Survivor deserves a lot more respect if you do put yourself into situations where you can die very easily on a constant basis in order to achieve it.
Getting to Lutgardis is easy, the only scary parts I've come across is against Ele bosses, Argo, that one down below Cavalon, the one that has Energy Boon then Kuunavang (the last fight in the mission) and Shiro.
Getting to Lutgardis is easy, the only scary parts I've come across is against Ele bosses, Argo, that one down below Cavalon, the one that has Energy Boon then Kuunavang (the last fight in the mission) and Shiro.