New Interface and Party window PLEASE? (Not another idiotic topic)

chicks boy

chicks boy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

No guild

A/E

I hope in Nightfall, that, there will be new things like new Party Windows. Like, I dont like the Red HP Health Bar... Ok anyways here are my ideas.

What i hope for Nightfall:

- When Full Health, the color of the bar on the party window is Green.
- When Takes damage, the color changes to Yellow.
- When Person is below 25% Health, the color changes to Red and It flashes (So monks can heal them attentioned.)

- When there's Enchanments on a Guy, there should be a word like [E-CHANT] and not a blue ^ triangle shape.

- When there's Hex on a guy, there should be a word like [HEXED] and not a Pink upside down triangle shape.

- When there's a Condition on a guy, there should be like a [CRIP], [BURN], [BLIND], [BLEED], etc... and not just a Brown upside down triangle shape.

- And Center of the Red Health Bar, there should be like you're remaining health in numbers like this:

[==Red Bar=====Yellow-------436 Health----------Bar=Green Bar]

(Sorry if that's confusing)

And you're Energy should be shown in the party window therefore People will know how much energy you have and thats when BIP necros come in handy.

- Also, I'm tired of the Red numbers shown in screen, like... Whenever you take damage there's like a red number on top of you're character. That is like so boring.

- How about, When you take 1-25 Damage theres a red number shown in top of you're character

- Then, whenever you take 26-50 Damage theres a FlASHY NOTICABLE red number shown in top of you're character.

- Last but not least, whenever you take 51 or more damage The screen shakes and theres a Flashy BLOODY NOTICABLE red number shown in top of you're character.

Ok thats all my ideas.

Call me if im stupid. But you got to admit, this is a great Addition in Nightfall. Besides, what us, Playas and gangstas, have got to lose?

Please, feel free to post up flaming and suggestions ^^

WLlama

Caged Mongrel

Join Date: Jul 2006

Cage in a Dungeon

Flaming Turtles

N/

While I can respect wanting to break out the conditions so they are individually identifiable, it seems that all of those text labels could stack up and be difficult to quickly concern. Imagine a ranger and necro attacking you. It is quite possible you will be crippled, dazed, hexed, and poisoned. Add an enchant to that as you try to heal yourself. Your bar now looks like.

[Crip] [Poison] [Hexed] [Dazed] [E-Chant]

Add a paragon and you can have [Echo] [Shout] [Chant] in there too.

That just seems like it might be getting a bit too unwieldy.

As for the bar UI, I can see where color changes may be a good change as long as they don't get too out of hand. That said, I believe the preferences should always allow them to be turned off as I think the flashing <25% would irritate me.

In response to the energy bars, I can definitely see when this could be advantageous...maybe an improvement would be to make each player have a + next to their names that would bring down a tree or just an E bar. I suggest that because there are times when I would want to know and others where I figure calling is enough and would rather avoid the clutter.

For the damage appearing above the head, I can't say I often pay attention to those. They can be kind of amusing to watch the energy or health roll in with certain builds but they aren't going to change my order of attack typically. So, again, I'd have to say this one is a bit too flashy for my tastes as the health bar usually gives me enough info. Then again, 15k armor is usually too embellished for my tastes as well so that will give you a grounding with which to judge my comments.

SaucE

SaucE

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

OgreSlayingKnife.com

[MEEP] Biscuit of Dewm

N/

Its perfectly fine the way it is. I just want to me able to see the energy level of my party members.

chicks boy

chicks boy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

No guild

A/E

Are you sure, Its a bit confusing for me at times.

lightblade

lightblade

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

The Etereal Guard

Me/Mo

hm...the current interface is fine...but I still like the interface before this one better.

However, there should be an option to turn off those annoying number above your head. I mean...a few number is fine, but when you have Balthazar's Spirit, Essence Bond, Sympathic Visage, Anciestor's Visage, and Spirit Bond on you...the screen just become full of numbers.

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

I think the one we saw in the nightfall preview was a good change.
I want to see a change in health color at 50% so i know when WoH gets its boost.:P

exiled mat

exiled mat

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

The netherlands > friesland > balk

[JAMM] Justified Ancients of Moo Moo

E/Me

I don't think that filling everything with "e-chant / hexed" is going to make anything more "user friendly"

yay for team energy though!

Omega X

Omega X

Ninja Unveiler

Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

W/Me

I agree with the need for the interface change. But just not exactly the one posted.

chicks boy

chicks boy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

No guild

A/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Omega X
I agree with the need for the interface change. But just not exactly the one posted.
Awwwww

wat u idea den

chicks boy

chicks boy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

No guild

A/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by exiled mat
I don't think that filling everything with "e-chant / hexed" is going to make anything more "user friendly"

yay for team energy though!
What do you mean User friendly?

And, i was using [E-Chant] and [Hexed] as an example foo

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

This is not needed as we Monks can already tell what you are suffering from before you do and if it turn to green with may spam mend condition as to poison.We don't need our IU changed./Notsigned.

Fred Kiwi

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

[cola]

why? WHY?

chicks boy

chicks boy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

No guild

A/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fred Kiwi
why? WHY?
Because it's confusing. A new addition like this wound't hurt, would they?

derrtyboy69

derrtyboy69

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Clouds

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Mo/Me

Quote:
- When Full Health, the color of the bar on the party window is Green.
- When Takes damage, the color changes to Yellow.
- When Person is below 25% Health, the color changes to Red and It flashes (So monks can heal them attentioned.)
The monks can see ur health just fine

Quote:
- When there's Enchanments on a Guy, there should be a word like [E-CHANT] and not a blue ^ triangle shape.

- When there's Hex on a guy, there should be a word like [HEXED] and not a Pink upside down triangle shape.

- When there's a Condition on a guy, there should be like a [CRIP], [BURN], [BLIND], [BLEED], etc... and not just a Brown upside down triangle shape.
A little obnoxiously cluttered? Having the condition they are suffering's icon pop up next to them would be much better, but its still obnoixous. But even if this was implemented, i think it would make things a little too easy, and the need to communicate with your team would drop even more.

Quote:
- And Center of the Red Health Bar, there should be like you're remaining health in numbers like this:

[==Red Bar=====Yellow-------436 Health----------Bar=Green Bar]
Whats wrong with just seeing the bar?

Quote:
And you're Energy should be shown in the party window therefore People will know how much energy you have and thats when BIP necros come in handy.
Would be helpful, but again it takes down the need to communicate even further.

Quote:
- Also, I'm tired of the Red numbers shown in screen, like... Whenever you take damage there's like a red number on top of you're character. That is like so boring.

- How about, When you take 1-25 Damage theres a red number shown in top of you're character

- Then, whenever you take 26-50 Damage theres a FlASHY NOTICABLE red number shown in top of you're character.

- Last but not least, whenever you take 51 or more damage The screen shakes and theres a Flashy BLOODY NOTICABLE red number shown in top of you're character.
So theyd take even more of your attention away? IMO theyre fine how they are

Mournblade

Mournblade

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

Houston, Texas

Dawn Treaders [DAWN]

W/Mo

If you can't figgure out simple icons like an up arrow and a down arrow, what makes you think that complicated things like text letters will be any better? lol

playas and gangstas? foo? give me a break.


The only UI change i'd really like to see is the option to turn off skill popup boxes. :P

Glasswalker

Glasswalker

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2005

Northwest Ascalon

Freedom

N/R

I wouldn't mind seeing the party's energy. But someone low on Energy can Ctrl+Click it just as easily...
I wouldn't mind seeing the health bar change color the lower it goes.

I couldn't stand it if the up/down arrows were changed to text instead.

When playing as a Monk, I spend most of my time looking at the party box instead of the rest of the UI, and have gotten pretty good at telling what is 50%. To any other class, this info wouldn't matter.

And any Warrior who can't call out, "I've got Blind on me!" doesn't get it removed. It's just that simple. What do you imagine the party bar would look like when a necro hits someone with 3 (or more) conditions? Do you want all that text across the bar?

Yeah, I think a new addition like this might just hurt.

I DO wish that the condition arrow didn't overlap the hex arrow... It would be nice if they were next to each other...

I DO wish that (in PVP at least) you got an {O}pponent box for quick switching of targets. It would get nasty quickly in PvE, so not there.

I DO wish that this were posted in Sardelac. It ain't Nightfall specific, or it's way too late.

Omega X

Omega X

Ninja Unveiler

Join Date: Jun 2005

Louisiana, USA

Boston Guild[BG]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by chicks boy
Awwwww

wat u idea den
This clown must be on drugs.

Corth

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2005

Sentinels of Eternal Souls

N/

If they implemented a screen shake for damage over 51, I'd stop playing. I hate it when games do that. A party energy bar is the only thing I agree with, as I mostly play a necro.

PS. Use proper grammar, because this makes it another 'idiotic' topic.

Cloudpiercer

Cloudpiercer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Omega X
This clown must be on drugs.
lol, now that is just hilarious

WLlama

Caged Mongrel

Join Date: Jul 2006

Cage in a Dungeon

Flaming Turtles

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Glasswalker
When playing as a Monk, I spend most of my time looking at the party box instead of the rest of the UI, and have gotten pretty good at telling what is 50%. To any other class, this info wouldn't matter.
There are a few non-Monk skills which work on <50% health conditionals so it isn't just monks who would benefit. Just food for thought.

unmatchedfury

unmatchedfury

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Cookie Cutter [FTW]

Does anyone realize that this is a troll post? Is it just me or am I the only one who saw the title and thought "troll..."

Chicks Boy is known for doing this.

P.S. the one accedentaly intelligent idea is to have mana shown. this would make BiP type necros much more viable.

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Glasswalker
I wouldn't mind seeing the party's energy. But someone low on Energy can Ctrl+Click it just as easily...
I wouldn't mind seeing the health bar change color the lower it goes.

I couldn't stand it if the up/down arrows were changed to text instead.

When playing as a Monk, I spend most of my time looking at the party box instead of the rest of the UI, and have gotten pretty good at telling what is 50%. To any other class, this info wouldn't matter.

And any Warrior who can't call out, "I've got Blind on me!" doesn't get it removed. It's just that simple. What do you imagine the party bar would look like when a necro hits someone with 3 (or more) conditions? Do you want all that text across the bar?

Yeah, I think a new addition like this might just hurt.

I DO wish that the condition arrow didn't overlap the hex arrow... It would be nice if they were next to each other...

I DO wish that (in PVP at least) you got an {O}pponent box for quick switching of targets. It would get nasty quickly in PvE, so not there.

I DO wish that this were posted in Sardelac. It ain't Nightfall specific, or it's way too late.
You shouldn't be looking at the health bar most of the time only glancing at it and you can tell when there is both a condition and a hex on someone.Necromancers don't spend most of thier time speading conditions only hexes enfeeble yes but that is rarely seen.When there is a hex on someone thier health bar goes pink so right away you know.

ZenRgy

ZenRgy

Zookeeper

Join Date: Jul 2005

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ZenRgy disapproves for reasons already stated.

If you're healing and you see the red bars go down, you make them go back, if the red bars turn green or a pale red, you use condition removal, etc. etc.

chicks boy

chicks boy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

No guild

A/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Omega X
This clown must be on drugs.
ROFLOLMAO

chicks boy

chicks boy

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

No guild

A/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by unmatchedfury
Does anyone realize that this is a troll post? Is it just me or am I the only one who saw the title and thought "troll..."

Chicks Boy is known for doing this.

P.S. the one accedentaly intelligent idea is to have mana shown. this would make BiP type necros much more viable.
What's Troll mean? Troll Trogent? And what you mean by "Chicks boy is known foir doing this? SO i'm a Troll Trogent because I was posting some new ideas?

CtrlAltDel

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

Ohio

Brotherhood of Havoc

Mo/Me

I think the party pane needs work myself also...troll post or not.

Party member mana should show up.

Break each party member out so you can see that and then show little icons for each buff/cond/hex they have on them so you know whats on them.

Just mindlessly spaming certain cond/hex removers seems...not very skillful?

I dunno, just seems like the UI could need some help and I'd be a better monk for it. At the very least show mana and make the health bar change colors or something as it goes below 50%.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by chicks boy
What's Troll mean? Troll Trogent? And what you mean by "Chicks boy is known foir doing this? SO i'm a Troll Trogent because I was posting some new ideas?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

Sigh.

mrgoat

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

There's a lot of information you're leaving out here, I think every person's exact health regen/degen should be displayed, energy regen/degen, both in pips and as a formula, so it could say like ">>>> [4 pips=8 health per a second regeneramating] on everyone's party menu, and damage should tell you not just how much you take, or are dealing, but the formula calculating it should pop up with every hit taken or dealt. In fact, a whole sentence, nay, paragraph should float up detailing how much damage you take, what your armor level vs. that attack is (with a breakdown of what's affecting you in regards to that attack), and how the damage taken is calculated.

Even better, there should be a DPS monitor visible in the party window for every party member showing both how much dps they're doing both in the short scale, say, this minute, and a graph showing how much they've done overall in a match.

Along with the little icons showing what enchants/hexes/conditions/shouts/chants/echoes/stances/skills you have affecting you, everyone should get that in the party window too, with text descriptions of each.

Also, add everything in braile so that people who are blind can just feel the screen.

Jackson

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by HawkofStorms
ooo hell naw

Deleet

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Denmark

Rule Thirty Four [prOn]

Mo/

Please ban Chick's Boy already :/

Monk Mystic

Monk Mystic

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

The Ka-Tet of Gilead

Mo/W

PERSONALLY i dont see how this is a troll post, but deleet man whyd you ressurect this dead horse simply for that comment...

but since the poor things been brought back already, id like to say that the only UI change I want, is the ability to see how long enchants you cast have left on them. on you and on your party members. would make prot monking SOOOO much easier. and of course for all you whiners, give us a button to turn it off...