When to Sell Materials after Nightfall inflation?

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

I plan on liquidating my entire Material Storage after Nightfall approaches, since I don't have a great need for it (only thing I'd need would be another 15k Armor for my Nec, but that's minor), and I want money!

When would be the best time to sell?

I'd think 4-5 days after release, when people start getting to the lv. 20 areas and buy lv. 20 Armors.

WLlama

Caged Mongrel

Join Date: Jul 2006

Cage in a Dungeon

Flaming Turtles

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I'd agree with your thoughts. Might be a little later if the stores don't get copies on the shelves early enough for the weekend but probably within a week after release one way or the other.

Soldat

Soldat

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

TX

Fashion Police [chic]

i find myself in the same position. Ive stacked up tons of steel, iron, wood/parchment, tanneds and many others, but since i didnt do this for factions, im not really sure. i think a lot of players will b taking their older characters alrdy lvl 20 threw Nightfall 1st, so they get an idea of the new continent and can take advantage of finding new-skinned weapons, etc...
but i think ur estimate sounds about right; i'll try 3 or 4 days after release. or maybe even that monday after it comes out, cuz ppl will haf all weekend to play and explore it, getting to the 15k armor area and such.

Juicey Shake

Juicey Shake

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

CA

in it for the trimmmm

R/

I would probably wait a week or a little less, yup. Only thing is, I don't know if I want to liquidate my mats ><! I am so attached to them.. nearly 6,000 iron.. 4,000 wood or so.. >_>

Ensign

Ensign

Just Plain Fluffy

Join Date: Dec 2004

Berkeley, CA

Idiot Savants

Earlier is better. The price inflation is caused by old players buying new armor for their characters, and throwing their savings at having it first. I'd be surprised if prices don't peak during the first weekend.

Peace,
-CxE

Two April Mornings

Two April Mornings

No Luck No Time No Money

Join Date: Nov 2005

Amherst College, MA

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Me/

They won't inflate nearly as much as factions because eveyrone bought so many this time around. If anything, I'd seel first weekend.

Spader

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

W/Mo

Sounds like everyone had my idea. about 3k tanned hides a few things of fur squares.

King Kong

King Kong

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/R

3days in like factions did

Saider maul

Saider maul

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Baltimore, Maryland

during the factions release tan hide hit 410g x 10.... so i will just watch price.

I'm Surprised you all didn't stock up more. I loaded every character ( 60 stack ) i didn't plan to play first with hide mostly, followed by cloth and steel.

I did however neglect to convert my ecto to black dye and price is already falling so i will have to hold them for several months to regain their value back.
If anyone remembers ecto dropped to 5k at merchant to buy when factions was released. :/

But good luck to all.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Two April Mornings
They won't inflate nearly as much as factions because eveyrone bought so many this time around. If anything, I'd seel first weekend.
Theres still many more people who did not stock up on materials. Also, there are now 8 professions, so more materials will be needed.

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

Not sure if i will sell...i dont have nearly as much as everyone else.I think im gonna keep it for myself.

dansamy

Chasing Dragons

Join Date: May 2005

Lost in La-La Land

LFGuild

Mo/Me

Saturday or Sunday after release. During primetime hours.

Batou of Nine

Batou of Nine

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

California, USA

Angel Sharks [AS] (RiP [KaiZ] T__T")

Mo/E

Wait a full week.

I made a killing a week after Factions released selling Steel Ingots.
I am now prepared for several material inflations. Got several thousand Steel, Iron, Hides, Cloth, Wood, Parchment, Leather, Elonian Leather (good bet, elonian and all..hehe)...and several other types.

Surprisingly, this is simply all gained sine Factions release. Just recently started farming again to build up my coffers before i get those new 15k armors, or possibly new fow armors.

GL to YALL!! and HF!
cheers!

stiffler

stiffler

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

South Australia

[ToR]

R/

Does anyone know what materials will be mostly used for Dervish and Paragon armors, or is it to early to tell?

Velvet Wing

Velvet Wing

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

In your cupboard *nomming* your cookies

Blade of Souls

P/W

yeah, that was what I was wondering too Any thoughts on what types of materials will be used for dervish and paragon? (normal and 15k armors>?)
I didn't stock up on materials though, coudn't be bothered.. I have roughly 200 of every normal material and about 10 of all rares.. guess that will be enough to be able to buy myself some armor..
The only thing I stocked up on where weapons for my heroes (Scareater, Ghial, Kanaxai, Sunreach, Rago's staff.. all at reasonable prices) and I tried to save up about 100k on my char..
Time will tell if not stocking up on materials was the smart thing to do..

Guildmaster Cain

Guildmaster Cain

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Guildmistress Eve [Me], Guildmistress Azura [N], Guildmistress Azumi [A], Guildmistress Jaina [D]

Guildmaster Aeron [Rt], Arthas Ironfist [W], Guild: The Tyrian Templars [TTT]

Ill be selling 100+ runes, 98 green items, 50+ dyes, 2 amulets of mists, lots of rares, 2 -50 cestas, 2750+ wood, iron, cloth, 1500+ Tanned hide squares, 1750+ dust, 350 Scales, 657 Chitin, 1270 Bones, 750+ fibers, 495 feathers, 64 fur, 24 linen, 34 dilk, 9 ectos, 263 steel, 15 eyes, 3 fangs, 3 claws, 3 rubies, 3 sapphires, 35 charcoal, 22 obisdian, 150 amber, 36 jade, 160 vials of glass, 140 leather, 63 ink, 271 parchment, 35 vellum, 133 spiritwood planks and some more stuff...

Ill be posting my full list on saturday, things that are sold out at merchants will be sold by me at outragious prices...

The greens and runes I will probably keeping, since 10 characters x 14 heroes = 140-280 greens needed to get them to work. Unless people can 'persuade' me to trade them for some hard cold cash...

Havre Fras

Havre Fras

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/Me

I hate hording, and sometimes the horders themselves.

I'm generous, i'll sell mine for less than what people are selling, if I decide to sell 'em.

raca137

raca137

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Mar 2006

in my room

Elite of Elites

W/Mo

Message from the price preditction guy ME

With the start of factions, not many people knew what was going to happen. What new armors there was, what materials you need ETC ETC ETC.

Now that the majority of players KNOW what to expect in the market. The Prices arent going to hit high riduclous prices like at the start of nightfall. You arent going to see Steel go over 400g or even Tanned Hide or Iron go over 300 ( and to the other guy these are the basic materials you need for paragon and dervish armor )

My prove is from the posters above. A ton of people saved up there materials in hope of Factions insane amount of Influxed materials prices. Granted the prices are going to rise but not to the levels of first week factions.

And stocking up on basic materials is just plain dumb, when you can stock up on something better MINATOUR HORNS!!!!!!! That is right i said it, Minatour horns. These lovely little horns cost 5 to make an armor. That armor can salavage into around 22-26 materials at one time, or even 4-7 rare materials depending on what kit you use.

So while you have All those slots with 250 materials per stack. A stack of Minatour horns can hold up to more then twice the material per stack. And the benefit is that i can CHOOSE which material i want to go for (tanned, iron, wood, cloth, bone, ETC)

Just my 2 cents on materials and what the prices are going to hold for the start of nightfall.

P.S. simple soultion to when to sell...... When you think the price is high

Guildmaster Cain

Guildmaster Cain

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Guildmistress Eve [Me], Guildmistress Azura [N], Guildmistress Azumi [A], Guildmistress Jaina [D]

Guildmaster Aeron [Rt], Arthas Ironfist [W], Guild: The Tyrian Templars [TTT]

Lol, well I had BIGGER amounts then these at the start of Factions... and I guess there were others as well. And I still sold nicely.
Anyway, the prices WILL be higher then they are now, its just harder to predict how much.
Still I dont care much for selling it all, if I dont, ill just use it for my 140 henchies myself... Something that you didnt use in your calculations... more henchies = more need of stuff.

Clawdius_Talonious

Clawdius_Talonious

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Screwston, Tejas

KOS

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by raca137
MINATOUR HORNS!!!!!!! That is right i said it, Minatour horns. These lovely little horns cost 5 to make an armor. That armor can salavage into around 22-26 materials at one time, or even 4-7 rare materials depending on what kit you use.

So while you have All those slots with 250 materials per stack. A stack of Minatour horns can hold up to more then twice the material per stack. And the benefit is that i can CHOOSE which material i want to go for (tanned, iron, wood, cloth, bone, ETC)
Since when can you salvage collectors armors?

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by raca137
Message from the price preditction guy ME

With the start of factions, not many people knew what was going to happen. What new armors there was, what materials you need ETC ETC ETC.

Now that the majority of players KNOW what to expect in the market. The Prices arent going to hit high riduclous prices like at the start of nightfall. You arent going to see Steel go over 400g or even Tanned Hide or Iron go over 300 ( and to the other guy these are the basic materials you need for paragon and dervish armor )

My prove is from the posters above. A ton of people saved up there materials in hope of Factions insane amount of Influxed materials prices. Granted the prices are going to rise but not to the levels of first week factions.

And stocking up on basic materials is just plain dumb, when you can stock up on something better MINATOUR HORNS!!!!!!! That is right i said it, Minatour horns. These lovely little horns cost 5 to make an armor. That armor can salavage into around 22-26 materials at one time, or even 4-7 rare materials depending on what kit you use.

So while you have All those slots with 250 materials per stack. A stack of Minatour horns can hold up to more then twice the material per stack. And the benefit is that i can CHOOSE which material i want to go for (tanned, iron, wood, cloth, bone, ETC)

Just my 2 cents on materials and what the prices are going to hold for the start of nightfall.

P.S. simple soultion to when to sell...... When you think the price is high
SHHHH. Dont tell people about how leetsuace Collectors Armor is

dansamy

Chasing Dragons

Join Date: May 2005

Lost in La-La Land

LFGuild

Mo/Me

All of my old characters have their armors already. I will only be buying my mesmer some 15k and I will be making a new ele. That greatly reduces my "need" for materials. All of my materials that I don't need to use will be sold.

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

I got 3 set of 15k armor (thx to all the help i got from friends ) As for materials, i been stacking up on some..iron ingots, steel, feathers, bones and other parts. Guess i'll sell them the first week Nightfall is out.

vergerefosh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Englishmen Don't Drink [Tea]

W/R

just keep it

I've got one guy full of materials, but i'm just gonna use what i need and keep the rest. Can gvie some to friends, the rest keep for later, as next campaign will come out etc, and it will be needed

Oh a GW forum

Oh a GW forum

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2006

W/

I'm only looking to make about an 8X profit, which is why I bought in bulk. I spent about 150k, so even if I only sell at 3x what I bough, (and since I paid mostly 8g ea, I highly doubt that) I will still make a nice penny. I'm expecting to make at least 10x on basic crafting material though, and around 7x on rare.

KurtTheBehemoth

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

tubbyville

Kurt's Royal Guardians

Mo/E

I have good news for all of you wondering what will happen upon release. If you have stocked up on materials such as tanned hides, leather and steel, you will make profit. There will be so many kiddies and working ppl who haven't planned ahead that the overall economy of GW will inflate for a short time. Don't get to excited at the first price spikes and sell all your stuff. just keep track of prices and you will come out on top.

I have over 2 million gold worth of the projected armor materials at current low prices. I will most likely be making 4 million this coming weekend. When I am done selling I will invest 100k in dwarven ale. So the drinks will be on me.

Cheers to good investments in Guild Wars!

Guildmaster Cain

Guildmaster Cain

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Guildmistress Eve [Me], Guildmistress Azura [N], Guildmistress Azumi [A], Guildmistress Jaina [D]

Guildmaster Aeron [Rt], Arthas Ironfist [W], Guild: The Tyrian Templars [TTT]

Well,during the preview event, I remember that all THS were sold out and Iron was bought at 200g per 10... Consider this was because people needed to buy armor that needed 30-50 materials. Now consider that these people now want to buy max armor in Kamadan, for 200-250 materials each...

Not to mention... HEROES NEED RUNES, especially minor vigor runes.

/cheers

Spura

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2005

I didn't stock up on materials to sell them for profit. I simply bought 250 hides for pagagon armor and put them into storage. That should be enough for a few armor sets. I don't care about getting nightfall armor for my old character or getting 15k fancy armor for any characters(all my pve chars have 1.5k or collector armor).

Nanood

Nanood

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Supermans Crystal Palace

Legion Of The Dark Sun

Imagine if there is no storage on newbie island on release until you get to the mainland lol...

Oh man won't that throw a spanner in all the money makers schemes with plans for lining their pockets with newbie gold.

But i'll take a note of all you profiteering buisnessmen just in case i run out of stuff and need your help

Cebe

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

E/

The only materials I ever bothered holding on to (over and above the 250 in Material Storage) is cloth and tanned hide. I'm not planning on selling them at outrageous prices at all, and I collected them mainly for myself. I have so much cloth though that I'll be happy to sell it to alliance members for normal prices... Most of what I've collected: Materials, Runes, Green weapons, are all for personal use primarily.

I will be interested to see what the "market" does when NF is released. I bought factions a month after it's release so I've never had all this...umm...excitement before!

Studio Ghibli

Studio Ghibli

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Gaelic Storm

.. after reading all of this, I hope hope hope hope HOPE Anet pulls a "GOTCHA" upon release and changes the material components of the armor.

Sure, we've all--including me--have been stocking up on everything, but I made it a point to stock up on tanned hides the most.

Man, that sure would be funny.

Hell, here's hoping they release a new component.

Voltar

Voltar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

My dog let's me crash at her place.

POB

R/

yeah, too many people are prepared to sell rediculous ammounts of materials...

this will keep the materials market pretty regular however...there's other stuff to hoard that people will be going nuts buying.

1 account X 8 characters X 12 heroes X 5 pieces of armor = buyemup now

i have been and i'm sure anyone else who predicts materials to disappoint this time has been as well.

Snowman

Snowman

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2005

Wales, UK

Devils Scorpions

W/E

Inevitably prices will go up either way, just for the sheer number of players who will buy materials from the trader.

The most profit will occur when the merchant runs out of certain materials!... this is when you should switch to selling your materials to 'WTB Materials' peeps.

However, Money SAVED is also money EARNED!

rather than sell these materials you may actually want to keep them for your own characters, very often during factions I found myself selling materials, only to realise that I wanted them back to make some armor for other characters..

What will interest me personally is the price on Amber and Jade!... not as many people will be farming it (because they will be playing nightfall) so I suspect it will be a better time to sell the jade and amber stocks I have been hoarding

ktadie

ktadie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Grotto dis1

Scars Meadows

R/N

what about the rubies and sapphires? :O i got like 15 of each...

Zehnchu

Zehnchu

Popcorn Fetish

Join Date: Dec 2005

[GODS]

Mo/Me

The material trader running out will keep prices high for the first few days, after that prices will start to pan out and drop. But then too I suspect a lot of people have been stocking up and some at least have maxed common materials storage. Given that and how much easier it is to get common and rare crafting material in Cantha compared to Tryia a lot have a nice amount.

Alleji

Alleji

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Snowman
What will interest me personally is the price on Amber and Jade!... not as many people will be farming it (because they will be playing nightfall) so I suspect it will be a better time to sell the jade and amber stocks I have been hoarding
Yes, but nobody will want it, either, because everyone would be after Nightfall armor...

Same thing happened to FoW armor on factions release. Ectos dropped to 4-4.5k and shards to 2k for a few days because everyone was after the new high-end stuff.

Darcy

Darcy

Never Too Old

Join Date: Jul 2006

Rhode Island where there are no GW contests

Order of First

W/R

In the preview, merchants ran out of tanned hides the first day. ANet downloaded a change that gave the materials merchants unlimited inventories, but they weren't buying any materials, only selling.

It's possible that they will handle things in a similar manner for the first week, to prevent the economy going to pot.

Soldat

Soldat

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

TX

Fashion Police [chic]

If you'll notice, this post has been viewed about 1,500 times as of the time im posting this, which means far more ppl realize wat will happen to the price of materials when Nightfall is released. More people will be prepared is my guess, but there now will be more Sunspears to equip, cuz you'll also have heroes now that need armor. Also, some people who were clueless during the Factions release and have heard about what is predicted to happen, have only saved maybe 200 of each material or even less. If you've hoarded a lot, then you'll still come out on top, as long as you chose the right materials. Personally, I have 1,500 steel, 12 stacks of iron, 22 stacks of wood (some was made into parchment already), and 8 stacks of THS. Sure, I've got many of all the other materials, just not as much; I doubt they'll be used as much. Good luck to everyone, however, and don't get too excited when prices go up twice the normal. Be patient, and you're already doing better than half the GW community attempting to make money here.

Saider maul

Saider maul

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Baltimore, Maryland

Quote:
Originally Posted by Voltar
yeah, too many people are prepared to sell rediculous ammounts of materials...

this will keep the materials market pretty regular however...there's other stuff to hoard that people will be going nuts buying.

1 account X 8 characters X 12 heroes X 5 pieces of armor = buyemup now

i have been and i'm sure anyone else who predicts materials to disappoint this time has been as well.
True people are going to be more prepared. However those who actually farmed all their materials are going to make money no matter what. even if the merchant doubles in price i'll make 7k a stack on hide so 7k x 60 stack =420k profit on hide alone.

What i cant hold i plan to store in more ecto or black dye. all in all 2-3 mil should be made worst case. I also hate dealing with people on the market so i will deal directly with merchants then go rune farming.

I do not believe in price gouging like so many did in factions release. There is no need for it especially when 40-50% will be newb players and gold is not nor has it ever been hard to make as long as you have 1 farmer built.

I hope the price hike stops at double so i make exactly what i want to make and the people dont get screwed by the greedy people with piss poor morals.
Which is another reason for me to sell to merchant and drive prices down to a resonable level.

but good luck to all and let the trade wars begin.

Solar_Takfar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Soldat
More people will be prepared is my guess, but there now will be more Sunspears to equip, cuz you'll also have heroes now that need armor.
Hero armor will not require materials. It's free, permanent, and upgraded automatically as they gain levels. Unless Anet has decided to change it in the last minute (unlikely).