Dye Updates...

NoLeetzard

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

not here

[LAG] ([fang] alliance)

Stop bitching and use that brain... Dye on metal looks different than dye on cloth or on leather. It is more natural now.

Ebony Shadowheart

Ebony Shadowheart

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2006

USA

SSW

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Guildmaster Cain
Lol, well they totally nerfed out the dye-stockers with this... Now to find a use for those 97 nerfed greens I have in my inventory...
Lol, yup going to have to agree with you on that. I have a tendancy to horde dye simply because you never know when you (or a guildie) might need a bottle or two (or five). I hope they fix the glitch that doesn't allow them to stack simply because I don't want to use 2 characters to hold all my dye lol.

Edit: Scratch that, fixed now. (tested again cause it didnt work for me first thing this morning) wooohooo!

Darksun

Darksun

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

USA

Karr's Castle

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by sumrtym
Specific example...blood red necro (so much brighter than the used to be default red, which is now grey) can not be made because it used dye remover. It was an EXTREMELY popular color.
Using Dye remover was the same as using the base color. It simply made it more transparent (ie: it shows the base color through). So if you mixed red+green on a Luxon Necro, it would look exactly the same as dye remover + green.
So the lack of dye remover should make no difference.
I love the new Dye setup. Now adding multiple of the same color adds to the saturation! sweet!

Imaginos

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by NoLeetzard
Stop bitching and use that brain... Dye on metal looks different than dye on cloth or on leather. It is more natural now.
Thanks mods for deleting my reply to this guy yet leaving his nasty reply alone.

People LIKED the nice colors we were able to make and not these muddy drab ugly colors. If Anet wants to have dull colors then add a "dull dye" to merchants and give the people who wanted thier bright, pretty dyes back.

This new dye update is horrible and violently ugly!

Oh and as to "natural" on metal obviously you've never worked in jewelery where you can enamal metals and use other methods to make colors that are VERY bright.

Darksun

Darksun

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

USA

Karr's Castle

W/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Imaginos
Thanks mods for deleting my reply to this guy yet leaving his nasty reply alone.

People LIKED the nice colors we were able to make and not these muddy drab ugly colors. If Anet wants to have dull colors then add a "dull dye" to merchants and give the people who wanted thier bright, pretty dyes back.

This new dye update is horrible and violently ugly!

Oh and as to "natural" on metal obviously you've never worked in jewelery where you can enamal metals and use other methods to make colors that are VERY bright.
hehe, can something be so ugly, it's violent? OW MY EYES!!! hehe
But seriously, you might want to try using more dyes to get the color you are looking for. By this I mean, if you think the red dye is too "drab" try 2-3 reds. I noticed that now multiple colors add to the saturation. Personally, I don't see a saturation problem in the new dyes. I acctually think there are more options. And I like hoe silver adds to the contrast & grey lowers it. So many options now!

Gaile Gray

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

Hi,

Yes, dyes are now stacking. Just wanted to make extra sure that everyone knew that.

And yes, you have many more colour choices now, both in individual colours and in combinations. Saturation variances is just part of what will impact this. And the preview window is one of the best features added! The options now offered will increase the personalization of our characters by a significant order of magnitude.

Alfrond

Alfrond

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

The United States

Boston Guild [BG]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Imaginos
Thanks mods for deleting my reply to this guy yet leaving his nasty reply alone.

People LIKED the nice colors we were able to make and not these muddy drab ugly colors. If Anet wants to have dull colors then add a "dull dye" to merchants and give the people who wanted thier bright, pretty dyes back.

This new dye update is horrible and violently ugly!

Oh and as to "natural" on metal obviously you've never worked in jewelery where you can enamal metals and use other methods to make colors that are VERY bright.
I haven't seen what your talking about. I like the new dye update and I don't find it horrible or violently ugly at all. You just need to play around with the dyes to get the color you want.

Y.T.

Y.T.

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Halc yon
"The new dye system improves the appearance of base dye colors and mixed dye colors. The new system is used when you newly apply dye to an item. Existing item colors are not affected."

I am interested in seeing what improvements each dye has undergone. If you have pictures plz post.
well now all sets dye the same color if u're using the same mix, i might want to re-dye my mes armors black cos previously diff armor sets with diff textures (lets say 'silk', 'leather', 'brokade', 'satin' and so on) dyed darker or lighter, or just plain diff color depending on the texture..... overall dyeing armors become less surprizing but also less interesting, 'cos alot of nice colors and texture effects were lost but oh well

Marc0

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

Kings Army of Surmia

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfrond
I haven't seen what your talking about. I like the new dye update and I don't find it horrible or violently ugly at all. You just need to play around with the dyes to get the color you want.
The only thing I would change about it is that you actually have to have 3 of all the colors to play around with all the combinations. It would be nice if you could use virtual dyes to find the color you like, then just buy the ones you need once you determine your formula. For me, I have stacks of most colors, but this would be very nice for the budget minded people trying to get the most of what resources they have.

I have the Kaineng Center Shing Jea armor & I got 2 brown dye drops...I used them on the chest & legs & it looks REALLY nice I like the contrast with the boots & gloves...they have yellow+dye remover mix on them which barely changed the shade of the way they used to be when crafted (before they went with the all gray armors....

I'll try to remember to put a screenie up, but it adds a nice contrast to the tribal swirls that are on the chest & side because it stays the light tan color. At some point I'd like to add black to see how it looks with dark brown, but I'll probably just wait, I may get 15k armor if I like playing the ranger well enough. He's only lvl9 right now.

NoLeetzard

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

not here

[LAG] ([fang] alliance)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Imaginos
Thanks mods for deleting my reply to this guy yet leaving his nasty reply alone.

People LIKED the nice colors we were able to make and not these muddy drab ugly colors. If Anet wants to have dull colors then add a "dull dye" to merchants and give the people who wanted thier bright, pretty dyes back.

This new dye update is horrible and violently ugly!

Oh and as to "natural" on metal obviously you've never worked in jewelery where you can enamal metals and use other methods to make colors that are VERY bright.
HER reply. I can't see anything "nasty" on my reply, it's just my opinion. You are acting just like the majority of the players after ANY update. "Omfg I hate taht change it back you suckers you....." Just accept the changes the way they are. You can keep your "Dull dye" opinion but without ranting and swearing.

LeoX

LeoX

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

United Kingdom

Guildless Since 2005???

W/

I don't know if anybody thought of this, but i was messing around looking at what weapons would look like with dyes etc and i tried grey on the chaos axe.. lol.

So you dye your chaos axe grey and you're happy, but you can never have the green/blue colour again because there is no dye remover.. ;\ unless you mix dyes which are close to the original colour.

I took a screeny of the chaos axe dyed grey, liking the box around it.

Tortoise

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

Daunting Tempest

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile
Yes, dyes are now stacking. Just wanted to make extra sure that everyone knew that.
Well for some reason mine aren't... I gotta admit, I'm the only one in the entire guild though.

Silverfire

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

What a relief that the new dyes now stack with the old.
Except, oddly, one lone new orange dye I found just doesn't want to jump in with the other vials of orange.

Tachyon

Tachyon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Stoke, England

The Godless [GOD]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
Hi,

Yes, dyes are now stacking. Just wanted to make extra sure that everyone knew that.
Sorry Gaile, but they may have been at 04:00GMT 27-10-06 but as of now they don't stack at all. Neither do Imperial Commendations.

I've just tried, again, to place a newly acquired Red dye (from Elona) into my existing stack of 25 (from Tyria & Cantha) and it won't take. The two, the single dye and the stack, just swap places with each other.

Nice job on Nightfall though, barring the odd little teething problems.

Beau Nolan

Beau Nolan

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

[Jedi]

W/Mo

I have not yet tried to stack my dyes....however I have noticed dye dropping more often. Also, when I left today, White was at 64k.

unknown1

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/

argh i hope they make it so the dyes stack -_- cause i have like 300 dyes and i dont want to use 8 more slots to hold new dyes

Katina

Katina

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Center of Attention

Dangerous And Moving [DM]

E/Me

I was with a friend who just dyed her FoW white. I brought my mesmer to look at hers, and I noticed hers is not so white. She used the same white dye on the same armor. I dyed mine the first day white dye came out, she dyed hers today, 2 days after White was introduced. Has white dye been dulled a bit?

The Blonde mesmer is using the dye from the first day it came out, the burnette is using the white dye of today.







Even in trade screen, her white seems to be duller than my armor. Has white dye been dulled down since the first day? Why is it like this?

Tachyon

Tachyon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Stoke, England

The Godless [GOD]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by unknown1
argh i hope they make it so the dyes stack -_- cause i have like 300 dyes and i dont want to use 8 more slots to hold new dyes
That wouldn't be 8 more slots of your newly upgraded storage would it?

Oh no wait, I actually dreamed that they'd upgrade storage in-line with having three chapters worth of equipment, armour, weapons, dye etc.etc.

X of Thulcandra

X of Thulcandra

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Sector 001

N/A

W/

It would appear so. I don't see why they would dull it though, white isn't supposed to be silver, it's supposed to be white.

Diablo???

Diablo???

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

SPQR

N/R

That would suck, and needs to be fixed quick. Before people waste their 30k gold on less-than-white white dyes.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

white dye was down to 17k when I sold one to dye trader half hour ago...price will continue to drop as well

Bladed Aatxe

Bladed Aatxe

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

Were your armors the same color before you dyed them? I didn't think the color of the armor had an affect when dyeing over with a different color. But now...after all the updates...who knows..

Katina

Katina

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Center of Attention

Dangerous And Moving [DM]

E/Me

They weren't. My FoW was black before I dyed, hers was the grey. Her boots were black before she dyed them, yet they still come off duller than mine.

bebe

bebe

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

http://tinyurl.com/4g5ueb8

Put the peanut in the peanut hole!

Did she have the same problem as you?
A.K.A. Her armor is duller than yours?
Or does she see it as your armor is duller than her?

If she sees it the opposite of yours then it is nothing.
You see other peoples armor details-shading differently than the person themselves.

It's just a graphic client-side things. x:

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

meh white dye is going to be common imo..just had my 2nd white dye drop in an hour..

Katina

Katina

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Center of Attention

Dangerous And Moving [DM]

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss Temptress
Did she have the same problem as you?
A.K.A. Her armor is duller than yours?
Or does she see it as your armor is duller than her?

If she sees it the opposite of yours then it is nothing.
You see other peoples armor details-shading differently than the person themselves.

It's just a graphic client-side things. x:
She saw hers duller than mine.

These are her screenshots taken from her computer




Still duller..

Daemon Loki

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

My dyes are not stacking either I have found about 3 or 4 since I have been playing and they all look the same but will not stack with my older dyes.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

revert it back to normal colour then dye it again.

add a black to my dye collection now..i've had every dye colour possible in the last few hours..dye drops increased maybe??

Vahn Roi

Vahn Roi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2006

[HiDE]

I like it duller, it's less eye-burning.

madman420

madman420

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Honestly if their not standing right next to each other you won't even notice a difference. I agree with above poster though, the duller version looks better.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

anyone notice the price difference somed yes have a value of 1g some have a value of 25g

unknown1

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mo/

Ah... I hope A.Net fixes this soon -_- easy way they could do it if they are reading is to do a collectors to trade old color dyes to new ones =)

And hmm the "to dye for quest" gave dye worth 25g so that wont stack too =/

Katina

Katina

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Center of Attention

Dangerous And Moving [DM]

E/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vahn Roi
I like it duller, it's less eye-burning.
If I'm paying 30k for a dye it better make you blind.

Why was this merged? This is a different issue than stacking dyes...

Rheemer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

Australia

Has black dye always made the chaos axe transparent or is this a feature of the new update ?
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jjiinx13

jjiinx13

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Southeast USA

Hounds Of Creegus

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
Hi,
Yes, dyes are now stacking. Just wanted to make extra sure that everyone knew that.
Sorry Gaile, Hate to say it ... But as of 11:35am EST (GMT-5) still not able to stack my new dyes with my old dyes of the same color.

Also the Imperial Commendations and Monastery Credits arent stacking.

Therlun

Therlun

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

I like the new options too.

The new colour schemes are terrible though!

A comparison:
dye screenie
(15k geo and 15k luxon)

That two armours look terrible with nearly any colour now.
Its all washed out...
And I dont seem to be able to mix a dye that is even remotely like the old mixtures.

Electric Sky

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Admins Bane
white dye was down to 17k when I sold one to dye trader half hour ago...price will continue to drop as well
down to 15k now in european servers

Feminist Terrorist

Feminist Terrorist

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Oh Noes! The 'burbs!

Quote:
Originally Posted by Katina
Why was this merged? This is a different issue than stacking dyes...
You know, I wonder that same thing a lot. Not every thread needs to be merged, and often it just creates a confusing mess.

silent333x2

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Eternal Sorrow

W/

Has anyone tried dying a chaos axe white to have a glowing black chaos axe???

Electric Sky

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

i like how the black dyes now actually dye the armour black and not the "light-black" it was back then........if you know what im talking about