well not to burst anyones bubble but soloing the UW as a Necro Monk at least is still very doable,although it seems the Spirit Bond build is toast,reverting back to the old build seems to work just fine as long as you keep aggro down to 3 Attaxes at most,having one not attacking you and SS'ing only twice if possible(although that doesnt even seem to matter).check it out,managed to clear smites and colds as well.The only real hangup are the graspings,one will flee from the first mob but the others will stay put.
you can still solo UW as N/Mo 10/26/06
Pariah Hellfire
Bloodied Blade
In other words, it just got slower.
mad 55 monk
nice!
btw why r they not running away to regen ? i mean if they not - whats the difference between SS and VwK ...
i ll try VwK asap.
or u just have to agro small groups ?
btw why r they not running away to regen ? i mean if they not - whats the difference between SS and VwK ...
i ll try VwK asap.
or u just have to agro small groups ?
XvArchonvX
zOMFG You mean that this isn't the end of all UW farming like everyone has been crying everywhere?
LoL, gj on the build and adaptation. I'm glad to see some people can take up a challenge and overcome new obstacles.
LoL, gj on the build and adaptation. I'm glad to see some people can take up a challenge and overcome new obstacles.
Pariah Hellfire
yea definitely a little slower but once you run UW enough you can plow through pretty fast,smites in about 30 minutes now(ish).Titans are also fine to solo,they wont break aggro on you either..that would be the Titan quest out of LA.FoW is also still doable solo by the looks of it,seems to all be in the group size for some reason,like 3 smites won't break aggro at all, but a group of 4 or 5 , one or two will break.
Bloodied Blade
This is pretty good to know. I wonder if a rt/me VwK soloer would work.
Coriolis
You can still duo the underworld with an 55/Famine duo, only not the standard version of it. It's not that much slower than the old 55/Famine duo, only you can't take groups with more that 3 foes in it because of agro breaking. I'm not going to tell the build yet, let's see what you guys can come up with.
Bloodied Blade
Oh, I don't know, maybe the normal 55hp monk build with "Fear Me!" instead of bonetti's and healing breeze instead of sb. The build is all over the forums.
Coriolis
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Oh, I don't know, maybe the normal 55hp monk build with "Fear Me!" instead of bonetti's and healing breeze instead of sb. The build is all over the forums.
No, it still uses SV and AV with Famine.
laurson
phew 
Koning
1. This update sucks
2. Spirit bond is not completely useless for us necro's, it's still a better skill than vigorous spririt and (here) orison of healing. Its fast reload, fast cast and gives you a decent amount of hp back. we only have to carry HB now...
2. Spirit bond is not completely useless for us necro's, it's still a better skill than vigorous spririt and (here) orison of healing. Its fast reload, fast cast and gives you a decent amount of hp back. we only have to carry HB now...
Kcp
Since they nerfed Protective Bond into oblivion , then released spirit bond in factions I thought to myself hey maybe they don't really care about us farming and wanted to even out the playing field for all classes.
Suprise, suprise, take a few days off so I can start nightfall with a clear head and bam the Nuclear nerf buster bomb was dropped.
This outta be fun. Nerfing everyone so the derv's and paragons will stand out and shine
You know they watch those videos of mine at anet don't you. It was bound to happen. At least it still works for small sized groups. I don't really see any problems with solo FoW, I dunno if i'm up on old school smite running though personally. Thankfully I got a couple stacks of ectos before the update so it'll be awhile before I need to go back.
Suprise, suprise, take a few days off so I can start nightfall with a clear head and bam the Nuclear nerf buster bomb was dropped.
This outta be fun. Nerfing everyone so the derv's and paragons will stand out and shine
You know they watch those videos of mine at anet don't you. It was bound to happen. At least it still works for small sized groups. I don't really see any problems with solo FoW, I dunno if i'm up on old school smite running though personally. Thankfully I got a couple stacks of ectos before the update so it'll be awhile before I need to go back.
Shuuda
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Originally Posted by Koning
1. This update sucks
2. Spirit bond is not completely useless for us necro's, it's still a better skill than vigorous spririt and (here) orison of healing. Its fast reload, fast cast and gives you a decent amount of hp back. we only have to carry HB now... This update is exellent, anyone who complains clearly does not uderstand that GW is not about soloing, but teamwork, think about it.
2. Spirit bond is not completely useless for us necro's, it's still a better skill than vigorous spririt and (here) orison of healing. Its fast reload, fast cast and gives you a decent amount of hp back. we only have to carry HB now... This update is exellent, anyone who complains clearly does not uderstand that GW is not about soloing, but teamwork, think about it.
talon z
I've always wondered....how do you do the save screenshot thing?
Special software?
Special software?
pegasux
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Originally Posted by Shuuda
This update is exellent, anyone who complains clearly does not uderstand that GW is not about soloing, but teamwork, think about it.
Shuuda you also don't understand. GW is about anything the player wants it to be. Some prefer to farm while others prefer doing missions. I USED to dual smite and solo UW and FoW with spirit bond...oh well I'lll just have to adapt and change. no biggie. Overall I think this was a good update, harder for bots now. Only thing that mad me mad was the bug with the green Weps when the update first came. My guild nearly died when I pointed that out. Just hope ecto prices go back to the 10k+ lvl again.
Karmaniac
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Originally Posted by pegasux
Shuuda you also don't understand. GW is about anything the player wants it to be. Some prefer to farm while others prefer doing missions. I USED to dual smite and solo UW and FoW with spirit bond...oh well I'lll just have to adapt and change. no biggie. Overall I think this was a good update, harder for bots now. Only thing that mad me mad was the bug with the green Weps when the update first came. My guild nearly died when I pointed that out. Just hope ecto prices go back to the 10k+ lvl again.
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QFT
Really people stfu about what the game is or is not about. You don't believe everything you read from the papers either?
QFT
Really people stfu about what the game is or is not about. You don't believe everything you read from the papers either?
Cygnus_Zero
I love how this game is supposed to be about team play, but SS was my favorite build to use in PvE (with a team) and I can no longer use it. Couldn't they find some way to nerf farming without ruining my favorite way to play PvE?
Helios Skyfire
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Originally Posted by talon z
I've always wondered....how do you do the save screenshot thing?
Special software? Printscreen key
Special software? Printscreen key
talon z
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Originally Posted by Helios Skyfire
Printscreen key
So sorry to be so OT...
Thanks Helios.
Thanks Helios.
dbxz
I wonder if us 55 Mo/W could go 55 Mo/N to do uw?
actually nvm monks cant SS can they...
actually nvm monks cant SS can they...
Pariah Hellfire
I think that'll be the biggest downfall to the AoE update,SS was/is a staple of the Necro build in alot of cases in PvE,hopefully PuG groups will still see its usefullness and not be totally turned off to its aggrivating attributes now.Even though monster AI has been changed to scatter from ALL AoE dmg,i fear that SS in a PuG group will be especially targeted.
As far as this being a team game I agree partially in that statement,altough the day I got Kanaxis Axe and unfortunately died while Biping a monk to keep HIM alive and juiced and lost the axe because noone would rez me,I've kinda lost faith in the whole "teamplay" mojo..and yes they let me sit there on the ground on purpose until the axe became available even after saying they would pick it up and give it to me...I've kinda lost faith in fairplay and the whole ,"this is a team game" statement,maybe in PvP this is true but in the PvE setting,its really every person for themselves unless you travel exclusively with guildmates...I prefer farming solo or henching.
Im really hoping that some nice new Soul Reaping Skills are introduced into Nightfall that decimate everything..until them I'll still farm UW and whatever else.
As far as this being a team game I agree partially in that statement,altough the day I got Kanaxis Axe and unfortunately died while Biping a monk to keep HIM alive and juiced and lost the axe because noone would rez me,I've kinda lost faith in the whole "teamplay" mojo..and yes they let me sit there on the ground on purpose until the axe became available even after saying they would pick it up and give it to me...I've kinda lost faith in fairplay and the whole ,"this is a team game" statement,maybe in PvP this is true but in the PvE setting,its really every person for themselves unless you travel exclusively with guildmates...I prefer farming solo or henching.
Im really hoping that some nice new Soul Reaping Skills are introduced into Nightfall that decimate everything..until them I'll still farm UW and whatever else.
Velath
I have SS on my mo/n...more difficult but it's doable.
And about style of play, it does seem funny that GW team play involves the use of Heroes which are fully controllable by a single player...It's almost like Baldur's Gate online all I need now is the pause button! :S
Sad thing is now I can't finish my two-man UW clearing run! heh.
And about style of play, it does seem funny that GW team play involves the use of Heroes which are fully controllable by a single player...It's almost like Baldur's Gate online all I need now is the pause button! :S
Sad thing is now I can't finish my two-man UW clearing run! heh.
Imaginos
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So sorry to be so OT...
Thanks Helios. it puts the screenshots in the subdirectory :P
Check in your guildwars directory and you'll see a screenshot subdirectory with your images in it.
Thanks Helios. it puts the screenshots in the subdirectory :P
Check in your guildwars directory and you'll see a screenshot subdirectory with your images in it.
Gururian
I still 55 UW with my mesmer pretty easily. 
melaina
May I ask which axe you use? I see you only have 44hp. This axe must give you -10hp.
Phoenix Ex
Its the deep wound from the aataxes gashing that lowers his hp to 44.
But w/e...TOO SLOW and boring. Its as good as dead even if it still works. But GJ though.
But w/e...TOO SLOW and boring. Its as good as dead even if it still works. But GJ though.
drumer1029
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Originally Posted by Cygnus_Zero
I love how this game is supposed to be about team play, but SS was my favorite build to use in PvE (with a team) and I can no longer use it. Couldn't they find some way to nerf farming without ruining my favorite way to play PvE?
OK, first off, read the thread. SS is still very usable in PvE( see video and screenshots in this thread)
And secondly, SS should have been nerfed a long time ago with the first AoE scatter update. Just because SS was your favorite skill, as well as many other peoples, I'm sick of hearing people say that they are going to stop playing and that this game is ruined...blah blah balh...because they can't use one skill. That is just rediculous. Just find your own builds and use another one of the other hundreds of skills instead.
And secondly, SS should have been nerfed a long time ago with the first AoE scatter update. Just because SS was your favorite skill, as well as many other peoples, I'm sick of hearing people say that they are going to stop playing and that this game is ruined...blah blah balh...because they can't use one skill. That is just rediculous. Just find your own builds and use another one of the other hundreds of skills instead.
melaina
Got problems with dying nightmares. I hate them! I'll try it now with longbow to pull aatxes.
memnock deathwalker
I have still been farming in all the place I always have and have not had a problem. And unless they nerfed SS this morning I have not noticed any differance in the way it effects monsters. They do not scatter when I through it on them and I am still pulling off 41's and 43's for damage.
SB seems like it last just as long as it always had benn then again I have only play with a 55 for less then a month.
so I have to say I do not see farming as dead but as with all skill changes I see it as more of a challenge maybe time to rethink builds and strats instead of saying oh they nerf my favorite skill now I can not even play the game anymore.
that is just my 2 cents
SB seems like it last just as long as it always had benn then again I have only play with a 55 for less then a month.
so I have to say I do not see farming as dead but as with all skill changes I see it as more of a challenge maybe time to rethink builds and strats instead of saying oh they nerf my favorite skill now I can not even play the game anymore.
that is just my 2 cents
Timmy Shinobi
Same here I still farm the same places after the update has been made to make sure everything is intact, indeed the farming process has been slowed but I'm sure that someone out there will think of a build that will laugh at Anet's face on the update they have made. Cheers everyone!
Bonehead632
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Originally Posted by mad 55 monk
nice!
btw why r they not running away to regen ? i mean if they not - whats the difference between SS and VwK ...
i ll try VwK asap.
or u just have to agro small groups ?
VWK UW is still very do-able......gets tricky with argo's of 4 or more which means no more rounding up every smite you can find.
btw why r they not running away to regen ? i mean if they not - whats the difference between SS and VwK ...
i ll try VwK asap.
or u just have to agro small groups ?
VWK UW is still very do-able......gets tricky with argo's of 4 or more which means no more rounding up every smite you can find.
Dariah
Question: how do you guys deal with the nightmares? Whenever I farm UW with my IW mesmer I take an interrupt to deal with them. But how do you do it?
Xxalon Tacotu
As a Nec, I just wand them very quickly.
Basically, select the LAST target in the group of (usually) 3 Aatxes (press C, then tab twice). Then as you run in, you will hear the very distinctive sound of a DN popping up.
As soon as you hear that sound (and praying that you don't hear it twice), you just press TAB again to select the next target (in this case the DN), and hit Space to attack.
Thanks to Godlike Satan (kcp) for this advice. It works a treat. Usually, you will take them down in 2 shots with a customised wand. If it is going to take 3 shots, or you get the dreaded double-spawn, then you just RUN. As soon as you get rended, recast Prot Spirit (or whatever your damage-control skill is), then break aggro and get your remaining enchants up.
Basically, select the LAST target in the group of (usually) 3 Aatxes (press C, then tab twice). Then as you run in, you will hear the very distinctive sound of a DN popping up.
As soon as you hear that sound (and praying that you don't hear it twice), you just press TAB again to select the next target (in this case the DN), and hit Space to attack.
Thanks to Godlike Satan (kcp) for this advice. It works a treat. Usually, you will take them down in 2 shots with a customised wand. If it is going to take 3 shots, or you get the dreaded double-spawn, then you just RUN. As soon as you get rended, recast Prot Spirit (or whatever your damage-control skill is), then break aggro and get your remaining enchants up.
Bob Aeclucen
For the nightmares, even a 6 nightmare spawn would be easy enough to handle (it obviously is a hypothetical spawn). Just, when they pop, run back and hide behind Benton (look in KCP's thread for a pic), 2 aatxes will break aggro, the 3rd one will be stuck behind Benton and won't attack you, then, prot yourself, and wand the nightmares (they don't break aggro) to death. Then, reaplly your enchants, run out and reaggro the Aatxes. If there would be 6 nightmares, you would have to switch armors to 60 AL, but it wouldn't be hard (again this is a purely hypothetical situation).
Bloodied Blade
For those having trouble with nightmares, I'm sure you have ignored all other uw solo threads and only read this one. Now, on to useful advice-
If you hit "c", it targets the closest thing. Tab to the last aataxe in the mob, and aggro. When you hear the dying nightmare pop (and they make a very distinct sound when they spawn), hit "tab" again and it will immediately target you to it. Hit space immediately after tab-ing and you'll wand it down.
Mouse-targetting is too slow.
If you hit "c", it targets the closest thing. Tab to the last aataxe in the mob, and aggro. When you hear the dying nightmare pop (and they make a very distinct sound when they spawn), hit "tab" again and it will immediately target you to it. Hit space immediately after tab-ing and you'll wand it down.
Mouse-targetting is too slow.
Sniper22
Testing out 55 necro with Spoil Victor, much faster and easier to kill aaxtes and coldfires than what ss used to be, but graspings can be hard and slow and smites are slower that ss because 4+ groups have them run away, but working on perfecting my build.
Pariah Hellfire
Sniper sounds like youre adapting a nice build,I might suggest trying the following.Personally I use 3 weapon sets when soloing UW and they are 1)Vilnars Claw and the -50 cesta,2)Fiery Flame Spitter and -50 cesta and 3) Wailing Wand and the -50 cesta.I might suggest to you when trying this build on smites that after casting Protective Spirit and Healing Breeze on yourself (if infact you use those skills),swap to the Wailing Wand and watch how fast your Curses Skills recharge and how fast you are able recast..really helps alot when slapping groups of smites with SS and Suffering for me.Most of the time they cant smite fast enough.The Wailing Wand can be purchased from a weapon dealer in Cantha in Brauer Acadamy if i remember correctly.
squan
if you wanna do it quicker, why not go with 2 ss 55 necro's
Carboplatin
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if you wanna do it quicker, why not go with 2 ss 55 necro's
then you might as well get a 55/sb monk.
i no longer do this after the aoe update. it was fun while it lasted, but tanking 1 group of smites at a time is extremely boring and slow. The days of pull the entire one side of the room is over.
i no longer do this after the aoe update. it was fun while it lasted, but tanking 1 group of smites at a time is extremely boring and slow. The days of pull the entire one side of the room is over.