Obsidian Armour and new update...? - Guild Wars Guru archive powered by Guild Wars Legacy

aismailuk

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

R/W

27 Oct 2006 at 08:31 - 1

So.....

New armor crafted in Elona or through the PvP Equipment panel can contain swappable insignias, which provide the same types of bonuses that previously were permanent parts of the armor, plus new bonuses that are being introduced with Nightfall.

Does this mean that the Obsidian armour I am saving up for will not be as good as armour crafted in Elona?

Just wondering if anyone can clear this up for me before I spend TONS of money....?!

Thanks

Safer Saviour

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

27 Oct 2006 at 09:42 - 2

It's just saying that the modifications (+energy, +health etc. etc.) aren't linked to the skin of the armour anymore. So I don't see how the Obsidian armour would be worth any less- you'll probably be able to overide any inherent mods with new Nightfall mods if you wish to too.

aismailuk

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

R/W

27 Oct 2006 at 09:48 - 3

Ah...ok! Thanks for your reply!

Pkest

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Hooded Reavers of Eternal Life(Ankh)

R/

27 Oct 2006 at 11:49 - 4

Well they said insignias and inscriptions will only be for elonian armor and items so I don't think it will work on Obsidian. Might want to wait and see how it works out before you spend all the money.

Scutilla

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

Tyrian Explorers League

R/P

27 Oct 2006 at 14:01 - 5

I am hoping that they'll add an NPC in Elona that can upgrade your Tyrian/Canthan weapons and armor so they can accept inscriptions and insignias. It stinks that all these rare skins and 15k/Obsidian armors are going to become "out-of-date" because they can't use the new mods.

I'm actually considering scrapping a couple of my 15k sets so I can make a new one with insignias, but I hate how we'd have to get an armor with an Elonian appearance to do so.

Finn

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2005

Imperial Fist

27 Oct 2006 at 17:03 - 6

I've got to agree with you Scutilla. It would be really nice if they added an upgrade NPC. Seems a shame to waste money on buying new armors for old characters. Especially if you do not like the new armor skins, and you are hard up on cash!

Lord Chippo

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Global Liberation Army

W/Mo

27 Oct 2006 at 23:30 - 7

you cant override obsidian armor with insignias as of yet. ive try'd on every peice. Hopfully this will change in an update

llsektorll

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto, Canada

R/

27 Oct 2006 at 23:45 - 8

/laugh

Coocks

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Bucharest, Romania

none

Mo/

28 Oct 2006 at 00:22 - 9

who needs fow armor when you got PvP ?

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

28 Oct 2006 at 00:32 - 10

They should definately make FoW armor have insignas, even if they don't allow it for normally Tyrian/Canthan armor. From an RP standpoint it makes sense. A god can't craft armor as good as an Elonian...

As the game's "ulitmate" armor, it should definately have equal stats to the newest and best armor.

bigjimmysol

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

28 Oct 2006 at 10:39 - 11

Well i just came back from the forge and they did. The actually left the old armor which you can't swap out, then put the new obsidian armor where it has no insignia on it and you can. Which kinda of sucks cause I have the old stuff and would love to have the new stuff, where i can switch insignias allowing me to change stats at will. I just pray they update existing armor with this feature. They should. That would be the fair thing right? I always thought they made these changes to make the game more balanced and fair to everyone. But actually in turn seem to be unfair and screw over people who spent over a million gold on this stuff. Like my friend and guildmate did just a week ago. But they won't being they haven't in the past. And if I want the new stuff I gotta fork out another million or so gold. Bah.

TGgold

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Flying Gophers

Rt/P

28 Oct 2006 at 15:46 - 12

Didn't they update all the old armors when Factions came out to match the new ones? I don't see why they can't do so in this case. I'd be really angry if I had Obsidion Armor that wasn't even that awesome anymore :/

Crimso

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

PCformatforums[PCFF]

Me/Mo

28 Oct 2006 at 15:56 - 13

I think all nightfall armour starts with no insignia on it i recently bought the 15k sunspear it can have a insignia added but it has the normal warrior armour stats just 80+[+20 vs phisical]. it will take weeks for the rune trader to have insignias though so its basically useless for now.

Franco

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2006

England

VoB

Me/

28 Oct 2006 at 16:18 - 14

Quote:

It's just saying that the modifications (+energy, +health etc. etc.) aren't linked to the skin of the armour anymore. So I don't see how the Obsidian armour would be worth any less- you'll probably be able to overide any inherent mods with new Nightfall mods if you wish to too.

Does that mean, lets say I had a strenght fow helm, can i put a +1 tactics in it and take the strenght of ?

Archon Calran

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

28 Oct 2006 at 16:28 - 15

I was talking to someone ingame and he/she said they couldn't put insignias on their FoW armor that they had bought with no upgrades! O_O

Franco

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2006

England

VoB

Me/

28 Oct 2006 at 16:36 - 16

they bought fow armor with no upgrades ? :s wtf, mines glads, how does that work ??

And please anet do this , a 250k helm isnt exactly cheap -_-

RoadKill97

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Legion of Zeal [Zeal]

W/

28 Oct 2006 at 17:21 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Franco

Does that mean, lets say I had a strenght fow helm, can i put a +1 tactics in it and take the strenght of ?

Nope. Attributes bonuses and insignia bonuses are different thing. Basically you pick a headgear with the attribute you want and then add a bonus of your liking, for example more energy or damage reduction.

I'd like to take the Knight's bonus out of my Warrior's Obsidian boots and add a Radiant insignia (energy +1). Same for Ascalon helms.

Franco

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2006

England

VoB

Me/

28 Oct 2006 at 17:36 - 18

What a shame, I was geting happy there, oh well, looks like its buying new helm then -_-.

Vangor

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

28 Oct 2006 at 17:42 - 19

They should've simply redone all armor so that the way upgrades worked on the armor themselves was like new elonian armor. Rather than make an entirely different type and have to go through the process, the system needs to be revised to allow everyone the same benefit.

Always strikes me odd not paying more attention to people who purchased previous copies and have played longer, if only by updating them to be like.

bigjimmysol

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

28 Oct 2006 at 20:29 - 20

Well basically it is like saying, we don't care about those that have been playing, only for those starting now. Sadly they don't realize because of me and my brother, we've been playing this since day 1, got countless people to join (we head a guild of about 50, alot of them are friends who we influenced to buy the game) cause we love this game, then they do this everytime they expand. Basically it is like a slap in the face. I bought different sets of fow for different builds spending easily over a million gold. If I would have known they were going to do this, I could have bought one piece and switched insignias when I wanted to, for different builds and saved millions of gold and lots of my time. I wrote a nice long letter about this to the developers but who knows if it will even get to them. All I ask is that they make it fair for all and update all exisiting armor. We shall see. Sadly from past experiences and seeing what has gone on throughout this game, I see it not happeneing. We shall see.

4thVariety

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

European Union

ADL

E/

28 Oct 2006 at 20:47 - 21

Insignias are for Heroes only!!!

new runes etc. can also be applied to your old prophecies armor.

all problems solved.

Franco

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2006

England

VoB

Me/

28 Oct 2006 at 22:10 - 22

i want a +1 axe mastery, can you get me that? No.

lacasner

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

28 Oct 2006 at 22:31 - 23

Inscriptions and insignias need to be changed big time

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

29 Oct 2006 at 02:34 - 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vangor

They should've simply redone all armor so that the way upgrades worked on the armor themselves was like new elonian armor. Rather than make an entirely different type and have to go through the process, the system needs to be revised to allow everyone the same benefit.

Always strikes me odd not paying more attention to people who purchased previous copies and have played longer, if only by updating them to be like.

I agree. They made the dye previews retroactive and even the MATERIAL STORAGE. Insignias should be cross chapter if you have nightfall (like materials storage before this update), even if it means they have to be "insignia enabled" only through elona.

Pkest

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

Hooded Reavers of Eternal Life(Ankh)

R/

29 Oct 2006 at 02:43 - 25

insignias as they are right now aren't such a great thing since you can't actually build the armor you want. This will improve as insignias become readily availabe at the rune traders but I think armorers should just sell insignias then you can actually build a set of armor the way you used to be able to.

Also changing insignias is a salvage chance (ie you can destroy the armor). So if you really want to be able to switch armor sets reliably for different builds etc you're going to need separate sets anyway.

People wanted old Tyrian skins with different stats. This really doesn't solve that issue. All new skins were coming with all possible stats anyway so in a sense this has made things worse imho.

Deathface Jones

Site Contributor

Join Date: Aug 2005

Blazin Dragons [BD]

Mo/

14 Dec 2006 at 06:18 - 26

Any chance of this happening? I'm trying to make a decision as to whether or not purchase more obsidian armor for my monk simply because I like the idea of insigniable fow armor.