What have they done to our Black Dye! - Guild Wars Guru archive powered by Guild Wars Legacy

misery

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Triumvirate of Troglodytes

N/Mo

27 Oct 2006 at 10:41 - 1

Hello everyone,

Ok here's the problem: last week, i buy 4 black dyes for my husband's 15k Kurzick Ritualist's armor.
He puts it on: stark black as expected
Today, i buy the one missing for his head thingy.
He put's it on: blue.....

Am i missing something here?

Or course i had not known about this and in the process had bought 5 more for his new necro armor; and guess what?

Purple...

Please, if the "Powers that Be" are reading this, change it back... please...
Thank you very much for the white, but we also love our black

gloomy misery

"If something is perfect, why change it?"

Blackhawk

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/

27 Oct 2006 at 10:53 - 2

Least he still has his dye, my 8K Necro scar patterns which I dyed black months ago to make the scar pattern more defined (yes it did change - see the screenshots I posted elsewhere) have now reverted to the standard colour since they've made it possible to change the colour of the underwear which is now the grey base colour, so instead of a nicely defined black pattern I now have a crappy looking blurry set

Bit pissed off actually as to get it back to looking how I liked it is going to cost around 40K

misery

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Triumvirate of Troglodytes

N/Mo

27 Oct 2006 at 11:06 - 3

Sincerely sorry to hear this, Blackhawk...

Yeah he still has his armor, but he'll never be able to wear the head thingy withought looking weird.
To be honest, i wouldn't mind paying 40k for his armor to match if that is what it took.
As it is, we don't even have that possibility...

CKaz

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2005

27 Oct 2006 at 21:32 - 4

'turn head thingy off from showing' at least, eh?

but yeah every big update/chapter release ya gotta cringe/wonder about your characters model, hair, and now armor & dyes!

Cloudpiercer

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

R/

27 Oct 2006 at 21:54 - 5

Something similar happened to me. My Necro had Canthan armor and I died it a hybrid green+silver+silver for this cool neon green look.

Anyway after the update all my characters had starter armor for like 10 seconds (My ranger looking like that brought me back to when I first bought the game), and after that there normal armor appeared. But for some reason my necro had some kind of red purple color to his armor.

Also for some reason my Mesmer always has his headgear on during the character select screen when I have it turned off (because I hate it).

Quid Pro Quo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

27 Oct 2006 at 22:12 - 6

I agree. I know they were trying to make it darker and all that but it looked better before.

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

27 Oct 2006 at 23:19 - 7

I've noticed some changes to orange dye on my druid ranger boots and some changes to a red/orange mix on my warrior as well.

Vermilion Okeanos

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2005

28 Oct 2006 at 00:00 - 8

It has something to do with base color.

They changed all armor's base to gray.

For example, Rit kurz 15k used to have brown base, now it is gray. If you would to find the dye that turn gray armor into your old base color, then combine that base dye with black, you should be able to obtain the old black dye 15k kurz.

xtremextreme

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Phoenix Followers

W/Mo

28 Oct 2006 at 16:14 - 9

My silver carapace shield changed back to standard gold as well.

I sympathize when it comes to black though.

ddraeg cymru

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

The Guardians Of Wales [GoW]

Mo/

28 Oct 2006 at 20:21 - 10

hmmm strange i dyed my monks armour black many weeks ago and he looks fine allthough i have to admit im rather PISSED about my 55 and dual UW

ah well my GWNF still hasnt arrived... the new design on the dyes is rather horrible i cant tell whether its orange red or brown

anyone else having problems or am i coloud blind?

Franco

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2006

England

VoB

Me/

28 Oct 2006 at 22:11 - 11

i got 3 characters with full black, they all look the same ...

AJM

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Order of the Soulflame

W/Rt

29 Oct 2006 at 00:34 - 12

I swore off black dye when I found out it's navy on most armors. Navy just isn't as badass as black!

misery

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Triumvirate of Troglodytes

N/Mo

30 Oct 2006 at 04:31 - 13

Yes, the armors which have been dyed before Nightfall still look the same.
But, like i said, the thing is i didn't have enough $ to buy all five dyes before the expansion, and now 4 pieces are black, and another, purple...

Anyways it says Black on the bottle - and at 10k a vial, it "blip" well should be Black...

Just my opinion

Not happy

Otherwise, Nightfall is great!!!!

Hum... There is one more thingy: Since Nightfall, my minions do get stuck often or just sometimes stay idle when surrounded by enemies... :/
But that's no biggie, i'm sure it will be fixed

And for now i can work around it.

However as far as black dye in concerned......

kang

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Australia

The Confidential Men [Cmen]

W/

30 Oct 2006 at 05:05 - 14

Im just lucky I got my gold 15k ascaslon in before the update....cant find the same mix again...

quest3d

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

30 Oct 2006 at 05:58 - 15

I don't know if anyones noticed but old browns also changed. I loved having my Ranger's druids armor being the same color as the non-dyable bits =(

Vincaro

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/N

30 Oct 2006 at 15:06 - 16

hmm... in the update notes it said existing armors already dyed should have stayed the same...

Witchblade

Polar Bear Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

30 Oct 2006 at 15:10 - 17

dont expect ANet to change it back to black, though...

it is, of course, "impossible"

Leijah

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Europe

Me/

30 Oct 2006 at 15:50 - 18

My dark red monk fow armor had turned to brown after the update. I sent a bug report about it and a day or two later the colour had changed back to normal.

misery

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Triumvirate of Troglodytes

N/Mo

31 Oct 2006 at 03:09 - 19

Thank you, Leijah, for the tip

Will try that avenue.

Witchblade: why impossible?
Anything is possible for programmers. i know, i am married to one

No need to fix all the armors, just fine-tune the shade of black dye in a way that it appears black again; we'll be glad to buy new dye, even at 10k a vial.

It's simple: The Black can and should be brought back to what it was...
It has to... The thought of buying new armor and not being able to dye it black is just unbearable for some of us.

As AJM said: "Navy just isn't as badass as black!"

Misery

misery

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Triumvirate of Troglodytes

N/Mo

31 Oct 2006 at 04:03 - 20

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dont expect ANet to change it back to black, though...



it is, of course, "impossible"

Hum Witchblade...? if you were being sarcastic about this reply you wrote, then i'm sorry about taking it seriously. Just got it... A bit slow on the intake today...

Too much playing i guess

misery

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Triumvirate of Troglodytes

N/Mo

31 Oct 2006 at 04:43 - 21

Quote:

dont expect ANet to change it back to black, though...

it is, of course, "impossible"

Ok, i'm spamming now, sorry about that; but after a brief reflection, i need to add something...

It is a firm conviction of mine that Arenanet does care and that they might just decide to fix our little dye problem. I don't know if you've watched the making of GW Nightfall, but anyone who suspects they don't should watch it.

It's obvious that they are passionate about what they do and, as an artist i can say that there is nothing that a true passionate artist wants - needs - more than to please the recipient of their art, be it a player, a reader, or whatever the case may be.

Have faith, by God!

Electric Sky

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

31 Oct 2006 at 14:41 - 22

i prefer this new black dye to the previous one....

Diablo???

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Seattle

SPQR

N/R

31 Oct 2006 at 18:04 - 23

I just used one, it does seem like the new black dye is slightly less dark, and slightly more indigo.

Two April Mornings

No Luck No Time No Money

Join Date: Nov 2005

Amherst College, MA

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Me/

31 Oct 2006 at 18:06 - 24

My mesmer's armor is totally f'ed.
Black + orange combo gone haywire.

Lamont Shadow

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

01 Nov 2006 at 04:49 - 25

I just tried the black on my face scar and it was real black instead of that sick dark purple - yay!!!

Kha

Sins FTW!

Join Date: Mar 2005

USA

Angel Sharks [AS]

01 Nov 2006 at 06:25 - 26

Black is disappointing. I'm not liking what I see in the dye preview window when I use it. I also don't like how using two of the same color makes things brighter (even black). Makes it hard to achieve a really dark color. I ended up making a fake black (purple + green) for my new 15k necro armor. It came out darker than black would've made it, so I'm happy. Sadly it's not dark on all armors though.

I have to find new cool dye combinations. I can't make any of my old colors cause I used Dye Remover a lot in their formulas.

Quote:

Originally Posted by xtremextreme

My silver carapace shield changed back to standard gold as well.

My black one changed back to gold. I deleted it out of frustration... and the fact that I don't use it.

Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

01 Nov 2006 at 10:14 - 27

Hey, there,

Sorry, I was in the game telling people about... black dye! How's that for coincidence?

The black dye has been tweaked, as per your suggestions, and I bet you'll find it a lot more pleasing now. Please give it a look and let us know what you think.

Oh, and just so you're aware, we are still working on the stacking issue, but it will be fixed and dyes (old, new, or a combo) will stack. I've passed along the monastery credits and commendations aren't stacking for some, as well, and I'm sure the programmers will make fixing that a high priority.

Illuminus

Academy Page

Join Date: Feb 2005

01 Nov 2006 at 11:32 - 28

Thanks for the reply Gaile. Hopefully one day i'll own enough money to make one of my armour sets black

Minnion

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2006

merrimack , NH

midevil massacres

N/Mo

01 Nov 2006 at 12:18 - 29

I do like what they did to fix black looks great but when I put it on my obsidian armor for my necro I still see an outline of the original red color and when I zoom out it looks much worse Its driving me crazy

i spent months working for my FOW armor and now its ruined .

SOMEONE PLEASE HELP! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

: )

I think it might be a bug but im not sure

if it was fixed it would look a lot better than with the old dye

misery

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2006

Triumvirate of Troglodytes

N/Mo

01 Nov 2006 at 15:51 - 30

Hello Gaile

Yes, i have just now loaded my husband's necro and noted the difference. It's beautiful! Thank you very much indeed. I could hardly believe it. That is why i came here right away to tell everyone.

I understand that you (the Arenanet team) must have lots to do when a new chapter comes out and appreciate it all the more.

Now, i wouldn't want to seem ungrateful in any way, but although the necro suit looks amazing, the outline of his head thingy on his ritualist's armor is still blue instead of grey (as is on the rest of his armor). Not the end of the world, but i just wanted to let you know since you asked

But, all in all, very happy indeed

I want to thank you very much for taking the time to reply to my message, and would like to take the opportunity to express my appreciation for all the hard work all of you have done.
The result is amazing. The game is wonderful. The experience, imcomparable.

Thx again!

Sincerely,

Misery

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

01 Nov 2006 at 15:55 - 31

can someone post a "before black dye fix" to a "after black dye fix" pic?

^^ please fix the dye stacking before the double dye weekend~~

DergeDraconis

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2005

Pennsylvania

Arkangels [ARK]

01 Nov 2006 at 18:47 - 32

Yea before the update black, looked faded, a little subdued, now however it is as black as black could ever be. Atleast on my Ranger Druid armor, I bought 15k pieces last night and had to re-dye everything since nothing matched the new pieces. I think it looks kinda silly being so black though. Atleast on that particular armor.

SilintNinjya

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

At my desk

E/

01 Nov 2006 at 19:19 - 33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minnion

I do like what they did to fix black looks great but when I put it on my obsidian armor for my necro I still see an outline of the original red color and when I zoom out it looks much worse Its driving me crazy

i spent months working for my FOW armor and now its ruined .

SOMEONE PLEASE HELP! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

: )

I think it might be a bug but im not sure

if it was fixed it would look a lot better than with the old dye

do keep in mind that not every inch of the armor is dye-able...some parts will never change color.

Kha

Sins FTW!

Join Date: Mar 2005

USA

Angel Sharks [AS]

01 Nov 2006 at 19:20 - 34

Quote:

Originally Posted by DergeDraconis

Yea before the update black, looked faded, a little subdued, now however it is as black as black could ever be.

Yep, very dark and quite nice. Too bad it still doesn't mix well with other colors. Would be nice to actually get a dark color and not just a slightly darker color with black(s).

Mourne

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

North Carolina, US

The Arctic Marauders [TAM]

W/

01 Nov 2006 at 19:30 - 35

Thank the lord. I was about to buy 15k Canthan for my Mesmer, and started reading the thread to find the black which I was gonna dye it with had changed... Now I will still buy it and be happy as hell ;P.

Lex

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

01 Nov 2006 at 20:28 - 36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

The black dye has been tweaked, as per your suggestions, and I bet you'll find it a lot more pleasing now. Please give it a look and let us know what you think.

Gaile, black dye is still not real black.

On my dervish armor it still looks like very dark blue. Here is a screenshot:

Top of screen is from PvE event. Down is a current look.
Left side of screen is non tweaked. I did some light "correction" on right side to better spot difference/actual colors.

Example from top (PvE event) is black (after lightning it up - its gray).
Example from bottom (actual) is just very dark blue, not black

Minnion

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2006

merrimack , NH

midevil massacres

N/Mo

01 Nov 2006 at 22:51 - 37

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilintNinjya

do keep in mind that not every inch of the armor is dye-able...some parts will never change color.

yes yes i know about areas on armor that are not affected by dye but this is different these little areas of red should not be there. It looks as if some had colored in a picture but did not stay in the lines

Quid Pro Quo

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

02 Nov 2006 at 00:23 - 38

Yeah they still need to suck all the color out of it otherwise not only does it not look like true black but it also does wacky things when mixed with other dyes.

Uzul

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Arctic Tundra

Pints N Quarts [PsQs]

02 Nov 2006 at 00:31 - 39

My favourite teal mix is still working like before - the only drawback right now is the complete lack of dye remover which used to create one unique silver shade that is now impossible. I tried every combination with white and or gray - just won't ever look like the old one. Having unique ranger armor is swell, but I wanted to expand the collection with 2-3 more pieces. >_<

If anyone has vials of dye remover left (I ran out) please give me a PM.

Archangel_92

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

Xen of The Pacific [XoO]

Me/E

02 Nov 2006 at 01:52 - 40

Across all my characters I have four armour sets dyed black and none changed in NF. Even my necro with her red+purple sets didn't change.