Update is...well crap...this IS a question

Souljah135

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2006

Fallen Angels

W/Mo

How are u supposed to DO ANYTHING like farming etc. to make money with the new update? AoE like Spiteful, Cyclone, and even stuff like Gladiator's Defense make all melee things run away. And to farm anywhere else, like the desert, u need like 6-7 different skill and armor sets, and that many different weapons aswell. So my question is, how are u supposed to make more then 5k a month?

Stemnin

Stemnin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mo/Me

After every update like this:

People complain
People adapt
Anet introduces another patch.
More complaints
People adapt once again.


There's already threads on this, search is your friend so is learning to adapt .

Da Scotty

Da Scotty

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

London UK

TTR

N/Me

Skillz....

Time and patience will reveal a way, worry about the solution not the problem.

Tark Alkerk

Tark Alkerk

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

In a Black Hole

less

E/

lol moan moan moan, A-net should have never given monster any brains, now i can't beat them blind folded.....

sorry for the rant but honestly, an upgrade to Ai isn't a bad thing and there are many things in the update that are good.

and now because the monsters figures out, "wow while i attack with this Hex on my called spiteful spirit i take stupendeus ammounts of damage, maybe i shouldn't attack..." well i say this Ai is perhaps more advanced than some of the things i see in Ra.
you can still farm, but in this case its about using the the space between your ears, and not reallying on the monster being really quite stupid, also since this update affects all farmers its not like this update affects only you.

/end rant

Da Scotty

Da Scotty

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

London UK

TTR

N/Me

lol tark

Jongo River

Jongo River

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Souljah135
So my question is, how are u supposed to make more then 5k a month?
I made 37K last night on 1 white dye. Sold it to a trader quick, before the price crashed.

Also had several mediocre gold weapons with decent mods to salvage, so it's not all bad.

I wasn't even farming, BTW. Just getting some of my lesser used characters off Shing Jea or through Shiverpeaks for the weekend event.

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

FoW is still possible. Farming bosses is still possible.

Pro-Monk

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Dec 2005

You're kidding, aren't you, please say you are just kidding......

I've checked out my farming builds (Wammo/55 Monk/etc.) and I see very little difference. On the one hand, it does take a little longer, on the other, it's somewhat easier.

The OP should seriously consider examining builds, attributes, weapon choices, armor, etc. The AI change isn't the problem, it's you.

Sadom

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

Mu Tants

N/

I tried UW and Nahpui Quarter with my 55hp necro. Melee's didn't run away and Insideous Parasite totally owned.

Muchos gracias a-net

IceKnight

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

I like the improved AI, it offers a new challenge. You ask me doing the same thing over and over is boring. There are quite a few people complaining in major towns. Saying it will ruin the economy and what not. I think it will help stabilize the economy; the large problem is so many people farm items aren't worth much.

People complaining about the 55 builds not being as "effective" I think they have ran out of good ideas if that is the only way they can make money. There is nothing to complain about. Area of Effect was slightly nerfed in another patch and it made nukers less effective. People will learn new ways, I think its fine.

Opeth

Opeth

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

Portugal

Dangerous Pumpkins [dP]

Rt/A

farm is overrated xD

luxor9

luxor9

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

W/N

I always hated those demon's in diablo 2 for running away all the time lol.. now guildwars has turned every monster into those demons and I'm actually annoyed at even playing the game right now.

Morgoth the dark

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

[CDEX]

R/

WTF i cant do my PvP char...

any ideas what to do?

Orange Milk

Orange Milk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Ganking, USA

Retired

R/

Tried my farming spots with the same builds and had no problems.

It DID take longer and that kinda kills off the scrolls I use while farming for added EXP but oh well, I'll just use a longer lasting scroll and gain less a little less EXP.

Anarion Silverhand

Anarion Silverhand

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Denmark

None

Like Stemnin said, we've dealt with these things before.

Remember how we all felt about the AoE nerf so long ago?

We adapted, and we still found new ways to farm..

I believe some S.W.A.T teams motto is: Adapt, Improvise and Overcome.

We will find a way to survive this patch, trust me.

Stemnin

Stemnin

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Morgoth the dark
WTF i cant do my PvP char...

any ideas what to do?

When you get to the temple after making a char, press "j" and select armor and stuff you want, it can be changed in any pvp outpost.

And 4 weapon slots YAY!

There's a thread on it already i believe.

Morgoth the dark

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

[CDEX]

R/

i knwo that, but i cantz even get to creation window. Always i press create PVP char. it throws me to campain character maker. I'm all what the hell and try again - same thing. I really dunno what to do so any help would be nice.

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Souljah135
How are u supposed to DO ANYTHING like farming etc. to make money with the new update?
you are playing the wrong game.

this is not FARM WARS

THIS IS NOT SIM FARM

this is your perfect game

http://www.nintendo.com/gamemini?gam...Game-0000-1243

from nintendo

Anarion Silverhand

Anarion Silverhand

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Denmark

None

Quote:
Originally Posted by My European
Sit on a horse hard dick with this thread.

Don't be low IQ and figure another way to farm. k tkx RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO youself and all people that talk shit about the update and game.
Was that language really necessary?

Monkey Blonde

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Siege Turtles (ST)

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anarion Silverhand
Was that language really necessary?
I anticipate that post and quote will be removed soon.

Anyways, perhaps an emote such as /farm that makes all monsters in the area drop dead instantly is what it will take to satisfy some of these people.

[riVen]

[riVen]

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Refuge From Exile [RFE]

Lol anarion, you hypocrit.

Danish freak!

Souljah135

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2006

Fallen Angels

W/Mo

I was just pissed because 1) I have never had to deal with an update of this magnitude before, only got guild wars in January of 2006. 2) Because I just got that farming build on tuesday, and NOW u tell me it is RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOed up? Glads defense makes em run away, so now u pretty much have to kill em one by one. Would be faster to use hencys and fight thru everything. Faster and u'd get more various drops.

Shady Rome

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

This is not farm war, this is GUILD WARS. LEAVE IF U DONT LIKE IT

salamanca

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Bookhouse boys

R/

I'm wondering about the alteration of Spirit Bond myself. shifting it to only effect the next ten attacks is a pretty severe change when dealing with mass groups.

I'll find other means and places to gather stuff if I need it but it was a nice relaxing way to gain cash while chatting to farm those trolls with my monk.

TheSonofDarwin

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Black Hand Gang [BHG]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shady Rome
This is not farm war, this is GUILD WARS. LEAVE IF U DONT LIKE IT
I don't care about the farming change, but please, don't fall into the group of retards that use the Guild Wars/Farm Wars argument. The term Guild Wars doesn't apply at all to PvE, that doesn't mean PvE doesn't exist. Should people just quit if they don't GvG, afterall, it IS GUILD WARS.

Yeah...

Loviatar

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Feb 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheSonofDarwin
I don't care about the farming change, but please, don't fall into the group of retards that use the Guild Wars/Farm Wars argument. The term Guild Wars doesn't apply at all to PvE, that doesn't mean PvE doesn't exist. Should people just quit if they don't GvG, afterall, it IS GUILD WARS.

Yeah...
ummm..............i am pve to the core and the only pvp i do is presear to post sear.

i do
missions
quests
explore
+1000 hours from early beta
and i echo that this is not FARM WARS NOR GOLD WARS

and have you noticed that the devs seem to be cutting back on the hardcore farmers/bots?

TheSonofDarwin

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Black Hand Gang [BHG]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Loviatar
ummm..............i am pve to the core and the only pvp i do is presear to post sear.

i do
missions
quests
explore
+1000 hours from early beta
and i echo that this is not FARM WARS NOR GOLD WARS

and have you noticed that the devs seem to be cutting back on the hardcore farmers/bots?
Uhm... think you missed my point which was (and ONLY this) that the argument using the "The game isn't called Farm Wars" response is stupid. That's it. It's a stupid argument. I agree, as I said, the game isn't about farming. However, the game ISN'T just about guilds warring either, so stop using the damn name of the game as a point in an argument. People who use it need a better argument, and there are many out there.

You seem to think I was saying farming is, or should be a huge part of the game, or that that's the only thing PvE is. I never suggested such a thing.

Quote someone else who wants the farming, not me who favors the end of farming.

Tsunami Rain

Tsunami Rain

mmmmmmmm pie.

Join Date: Aug 2005

Honolulu, Hawaii

Favorable Winds [Gust]

Mo/

closed. theres a farming section.