Dasha Vestible (Lost City Mission)

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

So, yeah, how do you kill the final 3 bosses without Goren dying instantly? Pulling doesn't work, because Goren is a freaking Rambo. And 300+ Searing Flames don't help.

Sir Mad

Sir Mad

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Moe's Pub

Pigs Can Fly [Pigs]

R/

I've just beaten it with my ranger. I had to play a supportive role to make it work: I went as a Practice Stance / Chocking Gaz ranger for the eles (and throw dirt for the paragons). I'd say let your heroes kill the thingies, focus on neutralizing them. Kill the eles first (especially the last boss), as the mesmers and paragons won't do much damage.

To keep the lvl 18 Leeroy alive, there are a few tricks. For example, if no monster is in his aggro circle, he won't attack. And as he follows you, just just have to stay far enough from the foes (yeah I know, that's easier for a ranger). Otherwise you may send you heroes/henchies 1st so they aggro and then go fight. That won't solve the ele problem however, that's why you need to neutralize him. And how to do that depends on your class...

EDIT - BHA would have worked better than CG by the way as generally you only have to neutralyze 1 guy. So if you have a ranger heroe, I'd say take him, go full marksmanship, give him BHA and make him manually use it on the ele boss.

supaet

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

how you get to that mission? should I already gotten it? i'm at mission gate of disolation

[riVen]

[riVen]

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Refuge From Exile [RFE]

@Zinger: Pulling does work, do it carefully. You may pull 2 together away, which is fine, 2 of them together don't destroy your party.

@supaet: Depending on whether you pick Hero Margrid the Sly or Hero The Master of Whispers, you get send to different missions. Picking Margrid will take you to this mission.
I took the Master of whispers too, and haven't been able to find a way to gain entrance to this mission without cheating yet.
The cheat is to have someone that did choose Margrid take you there by opening the hidden gate to it in The Mirror of Lyss EA. You'll love the entrance btw

skretth

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Australia

i have magrid now (after completing game) im guessing there will be a way to get in i guess?

supaet

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by [riVen]
@Zinger: Pulling does work, do it carefully. You may pull 2 together away, which is fine, 2 of them together don't destroy your party.

@supaet: Depending on whether you pick Hero Margrid the Sly or Hero The Master of Whispers, you get send to different missions. Picking Margrid will take you to this mission.
I took the Master of whispers too, and haven't been able to find a way to gain entrance to this mission without cheating yet.
The cheat is to have someone that did choose Margrid take you there by opening the hidden gate to it in The Mirror of Lyss EA. You'll love the entrance btw hmm...so choosing magrid gets you two missions?
for master of whispers, you get Rilohn Refuge, then you rejoin for Moddok Crevice .

So for magrid, you get Pogahn Passage then where?

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by supaet
hmm...so choosing magrid gets you two missions?
for master of whispers, you get Rilohn Refuge, then you rejoin for Moddok Crevice .

So for magrid, you get Pogahn Passage then where? This mission discussed in this thread

I dont know the Master of Whisper's equal to this mission, but Magrid is required in your party for Vestible.

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I PWNT this mission with the right Hero's and henchies.

First of all - Your Hero-controlled monk needs to be Prot and give it /me with Power Drain. And Magrid needs to be an Interupter (Punishing, Savage, Distracting..etc. I even went /me and gave her more). Your thrid hero is up to you...I choose a Nuker with Searing Flames myself because it WTFPWNS EVERYTHING but whatever you choose make sure its also /me with interupts.

Going through the mission take out Rubies first (They shouldn't even get spells off through your leet interupts) because they do the most dmg if you let them searing flames too much, 1 is fine it only burns you but the second starts wild AoE pwnage. Mesmers are next because they have AoE with Surge and Rez Sig. Dervishes and Paragons are wimps.

AT the end with the three bosses if you can pull 1-2 of them apart by Flagging your heros above the stairs and pulling the djinns to them thats fine, but my build can take three at once. Set heros target to the ele boss before going in (dont just call him, theres a target button in the micromanagement screen for heros). The heros should pwn his spell casting and kill him, then kill the others at your leisure. The Prot Monk is for alittle insurance incase you accidently let 2 Searing Flames go off (like I said..first one..thats ok..just aoe burning...the second is where it starts to hurt). The paragon is a wimp. The dervish has 1-2 attacks that can do ~100dmg but thats easy for Mhenlo to heal.

supaet

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Former Ruling
This mission discussed in this thread

I dont know the Master of Whisper's equal to this mission, but Magrid is required in your party for Vestible.

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I PWNT this mission with the right Hero's and henchies.

First of all - Your Hero-controlled monk needs to be Prot and give it /me with Power Drain. And Magrid needs to be an Interupter (Punishing, Savage, Distracting..etc. I even went /me and gave her more). Your thrid hero is up to you...I choose a Nuker with Searing Flames myself because it WTFPWNS EVERYTHING but whatever you choose make sure its also /me with interupts.

Going through the mission take out Rubies first (They shouldn't even get spells off through your leet interupts) because they do the most dmg if you let them searing flames too much, 1 is fine it only burns you but the second starts wild AoE pwnage. Mesmers are next because they have AoE with Surge and Rez Sig. Dervishes and Paragons are wimps.

AT the end with the three bosses if you can pull 1-2 of them apart by Flagging your heros above the stairs and pulling the djinns to them thats fine, but my build can take three at once. Set heros target to the ele boss before going in (dont just call him, theres a target button in the micromanagement screen for heros). The heros should pwn his spell casting and kill him, then kill the others at your leisure. The Prot Monk is for alittle insurance incase you accidently let 2 Searing Flames go off (like I said..first one..thats ok..just aoe burning...the second is where it starts to hurt). The paragon is a wimp. The dervish has 1-2 attacks that can do ~100dmg but thats easy for Mhenlo to heal. can you tell me names the mission you did before and after this particular mission for your path? thanks

Ensign

Ensign

Just Plain Fluffy

Join Date: Dec 2004

Berkeley, CA

Idiot Savants

Pull with a hero, not yourself.

Peace,
-CxE

Sai of Winter

Sai of Winter

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

[ale]

Mo/

I'm kinda wondering where the enterance is too. Is it near the waterfall in The Mirror of Lyss and how do you enter (quest or something)? I have Margrid now.

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

supaet - Ok.

Starting at "The split" where you choose Magrid or Master:
P. Passage - Requires Magrid then the story comes together again at:
M Cervice
T Orchard
D Vestible - Requires Magrid then the story comes together again at:
Grand Court
...

For Master of Whispers as your pick, just replace "Passage" and "Vestible" with whatever missions he had you go on.

Sai of Winter - A Primary Quest leads to here, don't know if you can even take the quest if you already did Master's path :\ Haven't tryed.


Don't fear though, You don't lose map unfogging potential for picking one or the other. The first "varied" mission takes place in areas you can already freely explore, and Vestible here takes place in an "underground" map - IE: not on world map, and no percentage for unfogging it.

supaet

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Former Ruling
supaet - Ok.

Starting at "The split" where you choose Magrid or Master:
P. Passage - Requires Magrid then the story comes together again at:
M Cervice
T Orchard
D Vestible - Requires Magrid then the story comes together again at:
Grand Court
...

For Master of Whispers as your pick, just replace "Passage" and "Vestible" with whatever missions he had you go on.

Sai of Winter - A Primary Quest leads to here, don't know if you can even take the quest if you already did Master's path :\ Haven't tryed.


Don't fear though, You don't lose map unfogging potential for picking one or the other. The first "varied" mission takes place in areas you can already freely explore, and Vestible here takes place in an "underground" map - IE: not on world map, and no percentage for unfogging it. ok thanks, I heard that the end game will allow you to get all heroes? so i can get those missions? any one confirm?

dj deviate

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/Mo

so your saying it cant be gotten to so protector of elona is immposible then

supaet

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by dj deviate
so your saying it cant be gotten to so protector of elona is immposible then It's not possible this moment for foreign characters.

I cant do one of the mission in the Istan

dj deviate

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/Mo

im canthan born and did all the beginner island mission if your refering to the diggings mission let a low lvl who hasnt do the quest take it and you are just in party thats what i did

i was refering to taking of whispers path so you cant access dasha vestibule

ObiWan07

ObiWan07

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by supaet
ok thanks, I heard that the end game will allow you to get all heroes? so i can get those missions? any one confirm? I have the Dasha outpost, but it sez that i have to pick up Tahlkora everytime I try to enter.
Even when she's in my party.

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by dj deviate
so your saying it cant be gotten to so protector of elona is immposible then I said I didnt KNOW if they'd give you the quest to get there.

I know that I picked Magrid the Sly when you choose which one to follow and I didnt take up both quests, and I cant figure out how to go back and pick up Master of Whisper's mission (where you kill Drought). Seems you can only do both if you were clever enough to take both quests :\

Which leads me to beleive its a glitch in the game that you can even choose both paths at that point (because you lose the chance to do so if I zone out after taking one)

Sentao Nugra

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Crystal Lake, Illinois

Grenths Rejects [GR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Former Ruling
I said I didnt KNOW if they'd give you the quest to get there.

I know that I picked Magrid the Sly when you choose which one to follow and I didnt take up both quests, and I cant figure out how to go back and pick up Master of Whisper's mission (where you kill Drought). Seems you can only do both if you were clever enough to take both quests :\

Which leads me to beleive its a glitch in the game that you can even choose both paths at that point (because you lose the chance to do so if I zone out after taking one) What happened to me: I picked to go with Margrid, and when i hit accept, the option to take a quest from Whispers went away (exclamation point and all.) So it is either a glitch or something that is going to come later. I'd suggest reporting it if you feel that you are really missing something at this point.

On Topic to hardness of this mission: Tried BHA, 2 Blight prots, devona, me (Paragon) and the Earth hench, died because Margrid uses BHA too early and overshoots the djinn... gotta have some creative flag work or just load my heros with interrupts.

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

The inability to take both quests is intentional. It's a choice between Margrid or Masters. The same thing happens with Jin and Sosuke.

You should be able to get the second one after you beat the game...

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
The inability to take both quests is intentional. It's a choice between Margrid or Masters. The same thing happens with Jin and Sosuke.

You should be able to get the second one after you beat the game... But the point is you CAN take both quests if you talk to both right then, but cannot go back later and pick up the other if you missed it :\

You can take both Melonni's and Koss's missions too, later in the game.

Zinger314

Zinger314

Debbie Downer

Join Date: May 2006

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Former Ruling
But the point is you CAN take both quests if you talk to both right then, but cannot go back later and pick up the other if you missed it :\

You can take both Melonni's and Koss's missions too, later in the game. I'm 100% sure that as soon as I took Margrid's quest, I was unable to take the Master of Whisper's quest.

Sentao Nugra

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Crystal Lake, Illinois

Grenths Rejects [GR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zinger314
I'm 100% sure that as soon as I took Margrid's quest, I was unable to take the Master of Whisper's quest. I can also vouch that this is true, the second i clicked accept, Whisper's quest option dialogue went away (much to my chagrin.)

Queenie

Queenie

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Dasha Vestible is beyond hard, its impossible to finish. Theres barely anyone there...and the djinn are overpowerd esp. Searing Flames, they can wipe my party out in a matter of seconds, I've been stuck at this mission for 3 days and have not been able to complete it. It pisses me off so much and esp When Goren runs in and dies.

skretth

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Australia

just got master on it... really easy actually

ran my normal nuking build
ASJxNz74KfMYGVDX7CgBEAA on both jin and magrid
took donkoru as boon prot (oob)

my guildie ran a LoD spammer, dunkoro(heal), koss (sword), and norgu (e-denial)


there are 3 instances in the game where u must CHOOSE a hero

Jin // Sousuke
Master of Whispers // Magrid the Sky
Norgu // Goren

only after u finish teh game can u get all 6 unlocked

-.-

-.-

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2006

The only hard part about this Mission is the end, where there are three bosses that can easily kill Goren, the idiotic bastard rushing faggot. It's much easier to have a second human to hold him back while you pull one boss at a time with a long bow.

Queenie

Queenie

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Do I have to finish this mission?, can I skip it and do the other one? Its way too hard and its so damn fustrating.

Knightsaber Sith

Knightsaber Sith

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

W/E

I setup acolyte jin and magrid for interrupts and I was able to do it with hench 'n' heroes.

Queenie

Queenie

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Can anyone anwser my question plx T-T

Sentao Nugra

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Crystal Lake, Illinois

Grenths Rejects [GR]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Queen Christie
Can anyone anwser my question plx T-T As far as we know, if you picked Margid, you stick with Margid


I'll post the builds i used to hench this later so those in trouble can try it out.

Geckoo

Geckoo

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Spain

The Keeper Of The Seven Keys [KSK]

Me/

i have a problem... i choosed the master of whispers and beaten the game, and now i'm trying to get to dasha vestible... i did margrids mission and just ended at the same point that with master of whispers... if anyone had the same problem and solved it, please, tell me how i've spoken almost each vabbian guy that i found with the hope of find the way out.

Nine Soul

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

Slotting Crew

R/

I finished this on the first try with Masters. Just pull the last bosses with a longbow (well, I'm a ranger, if you're not, then no idea what you could try) and interrupt the crap outta them.
Even better if you give Margrid interrupts too. Mission was easy IMHO.

Sai of Winter

Sai of Winter

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

[ale]

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Geckoo
i have a problem... i choosed the master of whispers and beaten the game, and now i'm trying to get to dasha vestible... i did margrids mission and just ended at the same point that with master of whispers... if anyone had the same problem and solved it, please, tell me how i've spoken almost each vabbian guy that i found with the hope of find the way out. I found the enterance to Dasha Vestible, but I don't know if it will open without a quest. I was doing "Goren's Stuff Part 2" quest that led me there. I can give you the location of where the hidden enterance is later (I have class in a few). You can try and see if it will open for you without a quest, I guess.

gabrial heart

gabrial heart

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Las Vegas

Beautiful Peoples Club [LIPO]

Mo/Me

You CAN get protector, you can complete all the missions with either guildies that chose magrid (or whispers) or by beating the game and doing the quests to unlock the rest of the heros. Then just go back to those missions and complete with the required heros in your party. This includes istan. The crevice is the only one that is currently buggy to my knowledge, but can also be completed with masters.

gabrial heart

gabrial heart

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Las Vegas

Beautiful Peoples Club [LIPO]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sai of Winter
I found the enterance to Dasha Vestible, but I don't know if it will open without a quest. I was doing "Goren's Stuff Part 2" quest that led me there. I can give you the location of where the hidden enterance is later (I have class in a few). You can try and see if it will open for you without a quest, I guess.
You can get there, you just can't do the mission without magrid.

Perceptes

Perceptes

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2006

San Diego, CA

Mo/Me

I got the master's reward on this mission on my second try. The first time I got completely owned though, not knowing to expect the wrath of the djinns. I was able to do it quite successfully by just bringing a boatload of healers. I brought both Tal and Dunkoro, as well as Mhenlo and Khim. Set up Margrid for interrupts and Koss to do as much damage as possible. I also brought Eve (I think is her name, the blood henchmen) because blood ritual helps a lot in keeping the healers going. Just keep an eye on Goren and if you see him taking damage, make one of your monk heroes heal him right away by manually clicking one of their heals. I have to say this mission is awesome, I really like the design and the puzzle aspects of it. However, I can see how it would be really frustrating if you are having trouble survivng and end up doing it over and over.

P

Ensign

Ensign

Just Plain Fluffy

Join Date: Dec 2004

Berkeley, CA

Idiot Savants

Christie - you can join a group doing the mission at Dzagonur Bastion and complete that instead. It requires the Master of Whispers so you will need to pug it with someone else, but it's a good deal easier and will let you proceed just the same.

Peace,
-CxE

Div

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

It was actually pretty easy with a monk. Just keep prot spirit always on him and ur fine...

worker

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Apr 2005

Orange County, CA

W/

Fight them all it's not that hard.

Mai

Mai

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Needs Moar[DESU]

Mo/

Setting up Margrid as an interrupt ranger makes this mission really easy. Having Jin as an interrupter also is an added bonus. The way we did it was that we targeted the blue djinns first and set the interrupters on the red ones to keep them interrupted while we dealth with the others.

Prot spirit is necessary around this mission because of the Djinns at the end of the mission and Goren's wammo habits that always causes him to be targeted.

Ninna

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Northeast USA

Guilded Rose

Me/

easiest method is to lure them 1 at a time with a melee hero (flags)


last time I did this,
- Magrid (required) setup as interrupter
- Koss for luring bosses at end
- random any class, I used Olias as MM