How bout some changes to the way rangers use barrage. - Guild Wars Guru archive powered by Guild Wars Legacy

Blightfire

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

29 Oct 2006 at 06:25 - 1

I'm not sure if other rangers share the same sentiment as me, but being a barrager can be dead tiring. It simply causes my fingers to hurt due to how we have to use it: Pressing it over and over again...
I would like to suggest something like how cold/fire arrows work in games like WC3 where you rightclick and the skill replaces your normal attack, draining mana etc. with each shot as you would if you were to manually invoke barrage, but saving my fingers from RSI. I would think there won't be much balancing needed, it just makes spamming barrage abit easier

Sasuke The Betrayer

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Los Angeles

Pink Pearl

Mo/Me

29 Oct 2006 at 06:28 - 2

/signed

I'm having trouble with that in B/P groups that I just completely stop pressing 1. This would be nice.

Blightfire

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

29 Oct 2006 at 08:38 - 3

Yea... It doesn't make rangers anymore powerful... just makes it less painful to play.

forgot to sign meself,
/signed

Rathcail

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

29 Oct 2006 at 08:42 - 4

No pain, no gain.

Use your skills like the rest of us.

Blightfire

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

29 Oct 2006 at 08:58 - 5

lol i've played every other class and ranger is the only one that requires you to hit the same skill over and over and over again without delay... i don't see the point in that

Solar_Takfar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

29 Oct 2006 at 11:14 - 6

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blightfire

lol i've played every other class and ranger is the only one that requires you to hit the same skill over and over and over again without delay... i don't see the point in that

elementalists have flare... at least in the early game they do.

Blightfire

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

29 Oct 2006 at 13:54 - 7

I have an elementalist too and you're not required to spam it over and over again. And Flare is an instant recharge spell... in the sense that when you use it you don't have to wait before pressing it again, it'll just queue it automactically, with barrage however, since you barrage to recast the moment you can you have to hit it continuously because of the 1s recast time on the spell. Besides, Flare doesn't form the basis of elementalist dmg. Its just a spell that comes in handy here and there

DRUETSR

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

R/N

29 Oct 2006 at 14:46 - 8

I've just started playing as a B/P and this was one of the 1st things I was thinking.

/signed

Sonnestark

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Oct 2006

29 Oct 2006 at 23:52 - 9

i think spamming a skill repeatedly is just dumb and painful.

/signed

BaconSoda

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

*Somewhere Under The Rainbow*

Leo

Me/

30 Oct 2006 at 01:19 - 10

/not signed

come now, stop whining, if u can't stop playing long enough to avoid carpel tunnel i think u have a problem... Also, Barrage isn't a ranger's main source of damage, look at everything else it can do (like 104 dmg in one shot, 3 shots in a row). To think that barrage is the only elite worth using on a ranger, for shame......

gameshoes3003

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

30 Oct 2006 at 02:03 - 11

I spam Quick Shot which is even faster than barrage and I'm not dying.
so /notsigned

legion_rat

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

668 the neighbor of the beast

TFK

A/

30 Oct 2006 at 04:37 - 12

A/R critical barrage, i use it all the time. no ct for me yet. Like any other spamable skill its a no pain no gain kinda thing. Toughen up or change proffesions.

~the Barraging Rat~

Blightfire

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

30 Oct 2006 at 05:26 - 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by BaconSoda

/not signed

come now, stop whining, if u can't stop playing long enough to avoid carpel tunnel i think u have a problem... Also, Barrage isn't a ranger's main source of damage, look at everything else it can do (like 104 dmg in one shot, 3 shots in a row). To think that barrage is the only elite worth using on a ranger, for shame......

In certain areas barrage comes particularly useful, lets and easily over 104dmg with each use... esp. areas that are mob infested.

Blightfire

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

30 Oct 2006 at 05:27 - 14

Quote:

Originally Posted by legion_rat

A/R critical barrage, i use it all the time. no ct for me yet. Like any other spamable skill its a no pain no gain kinda thing. Toughen up or change proffesions.

~the Barraging Rat~

you try using it for 16hours in a row : )

Chicken Ftw

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

30 Oct 2006 at 05:39 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blightfire

you try using it for 16hours in a row : )

Or... maybe YOU should try sleeping. Or doing anything, as long as it's not playing GW for sixteen hours straight. o.o

Blightfire

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

30 Oct 2006 at 06:16 - 16

It was for the sake of my precious armor

besides i did get ample sleep, over 8hours... i'd never go a day without sleep lol

Oh a GW forum

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2006

W/

30 Oct 2006 at 12:55 - 17

Wow what a bunch of wusses... I refuse to believe clicking a mouse would actually cause anyone pain. Start getting some exercize or something you frail bastards.

legion_rat

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2006

668 the neighbor of the beast

TFK

A/

30 Oct 2006 at 15:21 - 18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oh a GW forum

Wow what a bunch of wusses... I refuse to believe clicking a mouse would actually cause anyone pain. Start getting some exercize or something you frail bastards.

/signed for them getting some exercise.
/signed for not spending 16 hrs straight on ANYTHING

~the "see i can agree with stuff" Rat~

Rakeman

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2006

30 Oct 2006 at 16:53 - 19

/signed but right clicking can't be the only method, there needs to be a key (CTRL maybe?) that u hold and use the skill to set it on auto. I play some RTS games where the unit construction is like this and it works good.

Orange Milk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

Ganking, USA

Retired

R/

30 Oct 2006 at 17:04 - 20

I agree with "find something better to do"

If ALL you do as a ranger is "click" Barrage I pray I never have you in my PUG as your are totally under utillizing the Profession.

/not signed you wuss bag smack tards

Xenex Xclame

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

DPX

R/

30 Oct 2006 at 17:11 - 21

While theyr adding this they might as well add a lineup for skills
1 ele attunment 2 fire attunment 3 aura of restoration 4 arcane ech 5 meteor shower 6 echo 7 arcaned MS 8 echoed arcane MS. Save , play,repeat .
Now i have time to get out of my house to do different things

Lykan

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

StP

R/

30 Oct 2006 at 18:22 - 22

Can i get someone to come round my house and press my keys for me cos im so damn lazy?

/not signed, simple solution play something which requires skill.

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

30 Oct 2006 at 19:50 - 23

Maybe you haven't noticed, but ArenaNet has given us hotkey customization for this sort of thing. Set your skill to a new hotkey that is better for you.

Praetor

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

Somewhere over the rainbow

Devil Me [DEvM]

E/D

30 Oct 2006 at 20:08 - 24

/notsigned

If you want to spam barrage non-stop, use a damn macro. But otherwise, I would expect to see barrage nerfed simply because it's overused.
Why? Mantra of Recall, overused? Yes. Overpowered? No. Nerfed.
Ether Prodigy, overused? Yes. Overpowered? No. Nerfed.
Spirit Bond, overused? Yes. Overpowered? No. Nerfed.
The list goes on.

Barrage just makes rangers look like they're doing something for the party.

Yanman.be

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

[ROSE]

A/

30 Oct 2006 at 20:22 - 25

Praetor, barrage is working as intended. There's no equivalent for it really.

MoR is nerfed because it kinda shifts all monks to mo/me etc. Not intended ( same for OoB )

EP just fuels HP. Not intended.

SB was too strong in pve.

And barrage makes it "look" like? IMO it does more damage than a nuker?

Daniel__

Banned

Join Date: Sep 2006

30 Oct 2006 at 20:54 - 26

get a real build then

yeah most rangers all they do is barrage, i saw a ranger using apply poison and barrage in a nightfall mission aswel, he had FOW aswel, ebay ftw..

DeanBB

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Arizona

Wizardry Players Guild, http://4guildwars.7.forumer.com

30 Oct 2006 at 22:43 - 27

If hitting the mouse button repeatedly is wearing you out try alternating with the keyboard key for a while or even using the other hand.

Blightfire

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

30 Oct 2006 at 23:46 - 28

Have you don't urgoz before? down there there's pretty much nothing you can use but barrage

Blightfire

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

30 Oct 2006 at 23:50 - 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Faer

Maybe you haven't noticed, but ArenaNet has given us hotkey customization for this sort of thing. Set your skill to a new hotkey that is better for you.

Whichever key you put if you're gonna hit it over and over again it'll have the same effect

All you guys are arguing that I should not be a wuss, or how you should take the pain. etc. I don't really see this as valid arguments... its like you're being masochists or something.
@using a macro: Sure, it won't be too hard to program a macro for this, but that would give me an unfair disadvantage over other players, considering how many people would be unaware etc.
What im just asking for is a simple code to replace the normal attack with barrage when you right click the skill, as seen in games like WC3. It doesn't exactly play the game for you, nor does it make ranger any more powerful.
Alternatively if i could bind scrolldown to activate barrage that'll make things alot easier too