Since 55ing is a lot slower now, I started to just do a lot of missions for fun.
I solo healed all of THK with no deaths.... and a person in the party gave me a plat for it.
I usually look at healers asking for money as stupid... but what about TIPS?
Opinions anyone..?
Monking for money....
Talin_The_Medic
Daniel__
... troll,
Tank LFG mission must pay me
Nuker lfg mission must pay,
... wtf
Tank LFG mission must pay me
Nuker lfg mission must pay,
... wtf
Talin_The_Medic
Thought as much =/
I never said people had to pay me though, getting money for solo healing a mission was nice though.....
Solo healing is pretty difficult, but I do it for fun a lot, so it was nice to make money off of it for once
I never said people had to pay me though, getting money for solo healing a mission was nice though.....
Solo healing is pretty difficult, but I do it for fun a lot, so it was nice to make money off of it for once
Malice Black
Pay a monk tips because he graced the group with his presence..lol
Heroes ftw..
Heroes ftw..
Talin_The_Medic
Heroes are quite nice at healing.. I set up a monk hero with the build I use while I had a few hours left on the buddy key my friend gave me, and it worked really well.
Looks like people think even asking for tips is stupid... figured that would happen, I didn't very much like the idea myself
Looks like people think even asking for tips is stupid... figured that would happen, I didn't very much like the idea myself
Nivryx
i personally don't mind compensating for a monk's time if i know they have already done it. the only proof of such a thing would be for me to see a protector title, otherwise i'll presume its a monk just trying to get some extra money while going through the game. i'd only pay if i'm not on my monk though. if i'm monking like hell if im going to pay for a monk who may or may not do more than me.
Talin_The_Medic
Yeah I don't have either protector title on my monk.. but I did every mission in factions (aside from eternal grove)
And of course I skipped jungle, ascalon, and a few other missions.... I usually only monk RoF, Souther Shiverpeaks, or the Desert for fun
And of course I skipped jungle, ascalon, and a few other missions.... I usually only monk RoF, Souther Shiverpeaks, or the Desert for fun
XvArchonvX
to the OP:
You do realize that people are just going to take Monk Heroes when they can't find real ones to join. If you do decide to monk for money, prepare to get laughed out most districts.
You do realize that people are just going to take Monk Heroes when they can't find real ones to join. If you do decide to monk for money, prepare to get laughed out most districts.
Anarion Silverhand
I ran into (or is it "in to"?) a bonder in FoW once. He did alright, but when we got to the "Restore The Temple of War" quest, he demanded 1k if he was to continue keeping his enchants up.. Of course me and the rest of the team refused, but he just stayed in-game, leeching our drops. With some smart pulling we ditched him to some Abyssals and then laughed at him. He left (who wouldn't?).
Conclusion: Monking for money is selfish, and unfair. You shouldn't be asking for money to do your job in a team. I'm sure it would look funny if an Assassin asked for money if he was to continue spiking targets down..
Conclusion: Monking for money is selfish, and unfair. You shouldn't be asking for money to do your job in a team. I'm sure it would look funny if an Assassin asked for money if he was to continue spiking targets down..
bungusmaximus
Brrrr, that's so incredibly lame. I solo-monk cantha missions for fun when I'm bored. I love it when ppl think theyre screwed because there is only one monk in the team and get Masters Reward at the end of the mission with only one death (this only works with a decent team of course). GW is designed for team play, if ppl get charged for receiving help from another player they might just as well be charged for breathing...
Talin_The_Medic
It seems like people are taking this as though I'm asking people to GIVE ME MONEY or I STOP HEALING.... not true... I'm talking about tips for solo healing missions (which I also do for fun...)
Anarion Silverhand
Saying "Accepting tips" is just as bad as asking for money IMO.
shaolin mind trick
The old, "I'm a monk, and you need me, so I'm better then you all!" mentality.
What about that ranger that manages to interrupt everything in sight, or that war that does an awsome job at managing the agro? Can't we all just be equal?
oh, and: heros ftw...
What about that ranger that manages to interrupt everything in sight, or that war that does an awsome job at managing the agro? Can't we all just be equal?
oh, and: heros ftw...
gobla
Shaolin as weird as this may sound that mentality is quite often correct in PuGs.
Often the only player in a party that knows anything about agro is the monk.
Just look at what is extremely normal in PuGs:
Warriors rushing straight for the casters, leaving the rest of the party to get bashed upon by the enemy warriors.
Elementalists doing pulls and instead of running a bit to loose agro they continue nuking and start flaming the monk and warrior because they died
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Assasins staying at the front lines if 5 mobs focus on them, then also flaming the warriors and monk ( well usually only the monk.... )
Rangers attempting to do pulling only to send their pet into the enemy group agroing 2 more groups ( well atleast they try right? )
Warriors and Assasins ( PLEASE do not add dervishes to this list :P ) rushing through the mob we're fighting with into a second then screaming for healing. Wich I do only to find myself surrounded by a VERY angry first mob looking to squash some monk.
Ofcourse monks aren't excused from this list I miserably found out yesterday.
We had 2 healing monks so I thought: Great! Easy healing. Midway the mission i started to wonder why it felt like I was solo healing. I then watched the other monk to determine his skills. Behold:
Healing Breeze - Signet of Devotion - Bane Signet - Spear of Light - Kirin's Wrath - Spirit Rift
And she was probarly carrying that elite divine favor rez as well. And when I told her that her build wasn't exactly good she continued to call me an ugly RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOface who didn't know shit about monking and left, ah well we still finished the mission.
So for me, I will consider myself slightly better in PuGs until they prove me wrong. I do enjoy monking in PuGs though, far more exciting then parties where everything goes good and you only have to heal 1 person.
Often the only player in a party that knows anything about agro is the monk.
Just look at what is extremely normal in PuGs:
Warriors rushing straight for the casters, leaving the rest of the party to get bashed upon by the enemy warriors.
Elementalists doing pulls and instead of running a bit to loose agro they continue nuking and start flaming the monk and warrior because they died
.Assasins staying at the front lines if 5 mobs focus on them, then also flaming the warriors and monk ( well usually only the monk.... )
Rangers attempting to do pulling only to send their pet into the enemy group agroing 2 more groups ( well atleast they try right? )
Warriors and Assasins ( PLEASE do not add dervishes to this list :P ) rushing through the mob we're fighting with into a second then screaming for healing. Wich I do only to find myself surrounded by a VERY angry first mob looking to squash some monk.
Ofcourse monks aren't excused from this list I miserably found out yesterday.
We had 2 healing monks so I thought: Great! Easy healing. Midway the mission i started to wonder why it felt like I was solo healing. I then watched the other monk to determine his skills. Behold:
Healing Breeze - Signet of Devotion - Bane Signet - Spear of Light - Kirin's Wrath - Spirit Rift
And she was probarly carrying that elite divine favor rez as well
. And when I told her that her build wasn't exactly good she continued to call me an ugly RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOface who didn't know shit about monking and left, ah well we still finished the mission.So for me, I will consider myself slightly better in PuGs until they prove me wrong. I do enjoy monking in PuGs though, far more exciting then parties where everything goes good and you only have to heal 1 person.
Carth`
Reprehensible.
moko
"paying 500g to each monk that will help us get master"
^seen it today in naphui shortly after i declined their invite and before i mapped out, i felt like coming back and helping for free but they were gone
suppose NF is forcing the lack of monks in other campaigns for this *sigh*
^seen it today in naphui shortly after i declined their invite and before i mapped out, i felt like coming back and helping for free but they were gone
suppose NF is forcing the lack of monks in other campaigns for this *sigh*
Sli Ander
Had someone try to pay me to get him through Sunjiaang while he Afked. Perhaps he was a 'survivor' seeker, but I didn't bite anyway.
While I have on occasion been offered money for this or that(free la runs or whatnot), I almost never accept unless they insist. After all its a game, and if I had fun, then that was my monks pay for the day.
While I have on occasion been offered money for this or that(free la runs or whatnot), I almost never accept unless they insist. After all its a game, and if I had fun, then that was my monks pay for the day.
cataphract
Quote:
Originally Posted by Anarion Silverhand
Conclusion: Monking for money is selfish, and unfair. You shouldn't be asking for money to do your job in a team. I'm sure it would look funny if an Assassin asked for money if he was to continue spiking targets down..
Funny you should mention assasins, they're the only ones I'd ask money for healing them. American ninja wannabes. 
Effigy
I'd say charging for your services if you need the mission is kind of lame, but if you're doing it purely for their benefit I see nothing wrong with it. You're just playing on supply and demand to market your services. The same deal with running people in Prophecies--you're offering your time, effort, and expertise in exchange for gold. If people are in a hurry, let them pay. Otherwise, they can wait 20 minutes for a monk LFG.
Age
I really don't see why we would need to unless they insist.
chicks boy
Boon prot hero FTW d
AhuraMazda
Whats that saying again?
"The best monks are the ones you never notice."
Paying anyone to do just about anything in this game is stupid.
"The best monks are the ones you never notice."
Paying anyone to do just about anything in this game is stupid.
Acadia
Quote:
Originally Posted by AhuraMazda
Paying anyone to do just about anything in this game is stupid.
So anyone that has ever bought a run/a mission being soloed for them/an item that was nearly impossible to farm for them is stupid?
While I do often go redo missions for fun with pug's (I have both protector titles). The idea of them paying me to monk even as a tip for keeping the group alive seems alittle strange, of course i wouldn't turn it down (it's time i could of spent farming for greens).
Of course if i threw my services up on the auction site it's exactly the same as charging for you to monk ingame. Nobody would complain at all if i did that, would they?
While I do often go redo missions for fun with pug's (I have both protector titles). The idea of them paying me to monk even as a tip for keeping the group alive seems alittle strange, of course i wouldn't turn it down (it's time i could of spent farming for greens).
Of course if i threw my services up on the auction site it's exactly the same as charging for you to monk ingame. Nobody would complain at all if i did that, would they?
gobla
Quote:
Originally Posted by AhuraMazda
Whats that saying again?
"The best monks are the ones you never notice."
Paying anyone to do just about anything in this game is stupid. If they want to pay and you want to do it for money then what's the problem?
You don't have anything to do at all with a party paying their monk for healing them, you're not involved!
And if you're in a party and a monk that requires pay joins just leave yourself or kick the monk. Nobody is forcing you to pay.
Now if I want to spend my own in-game money, for wich I spend my own time getting it, to pay a monk to heal me then let me! It's my money and time, not yours. And calling me stupid for doing that serves no purpose at all except for picking fights and getting attention.
And if it ever gets so bad that all monks want 1k for healing a mission then just create a monk yourself just like many others will do to profit from it. After a short while there will be so many monks that prices will drop and it will be no longer worth it. Simple economics. A free market rebalances itself.
Though I personally find it to be quite counter-effective to ask money for a party, you will only get less parties = less loot in total = less money in total. But if someone wants to get payed for it then please, by all means, let them.
No need to call anyone stupid.
"The best monks are the ones you never notice."
Paying anyone to do just about anything in this game is stupid. If they want to pay and you want to do it for money then what's the problem?
You don't have anything to do at all with a party paying their monk for healing them, you're not involved!
And if you're in a party and a monk that requires pay joins just leave yourself or kick the monk. Nobody is forcing you to pay.
Now if I want to spend my own in-game money, for wich I spend my own time getting it, to pay a monk to heal me then let me! It's my money and time, not yours. And calling me stupid for doing that serves no purpose at all except for picking fights and getting attention.
And if it ever gets so bad that all monks want 1k for healing a mission then just create a monk yourself just like many others will do to profit from it. After a short while there will be so many monks that prices will drop and it will be no longer worth it. Simple economics. A free market rebalances itself.
Though I personally find it to be quite counter-effective to ask money for a party, you will only get less parties = less loot in total = less money in total. But if someone wants to get payed for it then please, by all means, let them.
No need to call anyone stupid.
Effigy
Gobla has the right idea here.
And one thing a lot of people seem to forget is, time = money. Let's say you charge 1k to monk for a PuG doing a mission. I know many people would pay that, because in the 15-20 minutes they'd have to wait for a free monk, they could easily farm 2-3 times as much gold on a different character. Paying for the monk is actually more economical when you factor in time. Of course, this implies that monks are in shortage, which won't necessarily be the case now that heroes are out. I don't charge for monking, but I certainly wouldn't blame someone for being an entrepreneur.
And one thing a lot of people seem to forget is, time = money. Let's say you charge 1k to monk for a PuG doing a mission. I know many people would pay that, because in the 15-20 minutes they'd have to wait for a free monk, they could easily farm 2-3 times as much gold on a different character. Paying for the monk is actually more economical when you factor in time. Of course, this implies that monks are in shortage, which won't necessarily be the case now that heroes are out. I don't charge for monking, but I certainly wouldn't blame someone for being an entrepreneur.
Rera
omg wth r u saying monks r t3h bestest u wil pay
I don't taking money for services because it means I'm obligated to stay. I always reserve the right to ragequit, and you can't do that if you're being paid.
I don't taking money for services because it means I'm obligated to stay. I always reserve the right to ragequit, and you can't do that if you're being paid.
Effigy
Well, depends on whether they pay in advance or at some time during/after the mission.
SanchO987
Talin...... I personally despise, hate and even more words i cant think of charging for my SUPERIOR monking skills . So, One. You join my guild. Two. You shame me, make fun and overall be extremely rude Three. You leave the guild (YAY) then you start charging for monking.... I am gonna find you (cocks shotgun
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. So, One. You join my guild. Two. You shame me, make fun and overall be extremely rude Three. You leave the guild (YAY) then you start charging for monking.... I am gonna find you (cocks shotgun )
Dark Helmet
A Monk on his own isn't going to get anywhere. What about the tank who takes the hits, and does the damage? Is he looking to be paid, even if his build is 34.7 times better than your average Whammo?
As someone who likes Monking, I think it's kind of sad that people are demanding money just to play a game together.
As someone who likes Monking, I think it's kind of sad that people are demanding money just to play a game together.
Xpl0iter
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mokone
"paying 500g to each monk that will help us get master"
^seen it today in naphui shortly after i declined their invite and before i mapped out, i felt like coming back and helping for free but they were gone suppose NF is forcing the lack of monks in other campaigns for this *sigh*
took my self a hero boon prot and was warder my self with wards and tanked my self. I was taking 0 dmg, rest were all staying back and did ranged dmg, had no warriors with us. We did phoenix (mesmer boss) by the end. entire game, we had no death. My hero was the only monk in enitre mission ofcourse.
^seen it today in naphui shortly after i declined their invite and before i mapped out, i felt like coming back and helping for free but they were gone
suppose NF is forcing the lack of monks in other campaigns for this *sigh*
took my self a hero boon prot and was warder my self with wards and tanked my self. I was taking 0 dmg, rest were all staying back and did ranged dmg, had no warriors with us. We did phoenix (mesmer boss) by the end. entire game, we had no death. My hero was the only monk in enitre mission ofcourse.
moko
Quote:
Originally Posted by Xpl0iter
took my self a hero boon prot and was warder my self with wards and tanked my self. I was taking 0 dmg, rest were all staying back and did ranged dmg, had no warriors with us. We did phoenix (mesmer boss) by the end. entire game, we had no death. My hero was the only monk in enitre mission ofcourse.
i assume those that still play in other campaigns dont have heroes for now. they either lack of NF as game, or the char simply doesnt have heroes, because it does require work in NF.
bca242
I feel bad now...
Before NF came out with all the Heros people got so very needy for Monks so I helped a team with Gyala? Hatchery for 5k x.x I was the only Monk in the town so they were like begging
Before NF came out with all the Heros people got so very needy for Monks so I helped a team with Gyala? Hatchery for 5k x.x I was the only Monk in the town so they were like begging
Xpl0iter
if u say it today, then the NF skills one required, any one could have em who had NF. i still play in other campaigns by the way. i got nf. I do not think that out of 7 people, i was the only guy with NF in the group ^_^.
and by the way, when i compared the build with u ^_^, we both had either a monk with us, or were a monk. ur better since ur human, and i had a hero
Works for me. The point is, u dont need a human monk in nahpui if u know what ur doing.
and by the way, when i compared the build with u ^_^, we both had either a monk with us, or were a monk. ur better since ur human, and i had a hero
Works for me. The point is, u dont need a human monk in nahpui if u know what ur doing.
Yadee
I would never charge for monking
I play fairly casually and dont have a clue about this "farming" business, i have made maybe 20000 gold so far in the game, on my monk that has done most of NF and several missions in prophecies, so the "teaming costs me money" concept doesnt cater to me really
I generally just go with my heroes though, while ive never had any of those horrible groups most of the time when i group its like running with heroes anyways, not a word being said and everyone has quit the team by the time ive watched the mission video
I play fairly casually and dont have a clue about this "farming" business, i have made maybe 20000 gold so far in the game, on my monk that has done most of NF and several missions in prophecies, so the "teaming costs me money" concept doesnt cater to me really
I generally just go with my heroes though, while ive never had any of those horrible groups most of the time when i group its like running with heroes anyways, not a word being said and everyone has quit the team by the time ive watched the mission video
Age
I was in the Gates Of Madness mission with Lifes Infusion in my Party and we heard this Monk advertise their services for 50K.That is outrageous and this will definitely give Monks a bad name.I still don't like Monking for Money though although most groups need it but the payment method would have to be right unlike running.
peanut91
monking for money is wrong and shouldnt be done, it will give us monks bad names and why should people pay us to do our jobs? we are built for healing so we heal and i for one wont charge for my services
Zephyr Rose
Sooo I finished Vizunah Square and ended up in Dragon's Throat for the first time. Didn't really want to do a challenge mission so I just decided to do the primary quest. While I'm there I have like five groups trying to get me to monk for them, but kept telling everyone "Sorry, just doing quests." So I guess one group really needed a monk badly and offered to pay me. Guess what I did?
I said "I'll just do it for free, if you need a monk that badly."
I really think it's sad that people will offer to pay monks to join groups just because there are so few hanging around. So if someone offers to pay me, I'll just quit what I'm doing and go for free. There is no need for someone to spend their hard earned gold on my services (or anyone else's really, unless they want a run, etc. etc.)
This is not to say that if a group is willing to pay and a monk wants to accept payment that it is wrong...but it IS wrong for a monk to ask for payment. So I will continue joining groups for free because it is so against my grain to charge or accept payment for something I love doing (at least in game...I love my job but I'd quit in a flash if they stopped paying me.)
I said "I'll just do it for free, if you need a monk that badly."
I really think it's sad that people will offer to pay monks to join groups just because there are so few hanging around. So if someone offers to pay me, I'll just quit what I'm doing and go for free. There is no need for someone to spend their hard earned gold on my services (or anyone else's really, unless they want a run, etc. etc.)
This is not to say that if a group is willing to pay and a monk wants to accept payment that it is wrong...but it IS wrong for a monk to ask for payment. So I will continue joining groups for free because it is so against my grain to charge or accept payment for something I love doing (at least in game...I love my job but I'd quit in a flash if they stopped paying me.)
Glints Bane
I tried getting people to pay me the other day...I was in thirsty river and there were like 5 different groups that needed a monk...so i said whoever pays the most ill go with them...it didn't work lol...but I can say i tried!
NinjaKai
I'd never ask for gold for monking. Though I do go to places where monks are badly needed and just stand around. Oh how the people moan when the only monk is just standing still.
Effigy
Some of you need to put down the cross and realize that your time is valuable. If there are no other monks around and people are offering money, take it! Or don't. But don't feel obligated to help people for free just because you're the only monk. Why would you feel obligated to do something you don't want to do, in a game no less, simply because you're a monk?
People keep saying that others shouldn't have to pay for a monk's help, but why should the monk have to pay (in time wasted) just for others' benefit? You guys sell yourselves short.
People keep saying that others shouldn't have to pay for a monk's help, but why should the monk have to pay (in time wasted) just for others' benefit? You guys sell yourselves short.