NPC's Won't Give Me Blessings!!!

heroajax1

heroajax1

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

By Any Other Name [Rose]

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I reached r8 in the sunspear promotion path on my tyrian born character. The npc's will no longer give me any blessings to get to r9.

Anyone else have this problem or know what's going on?

Thanks.

Amity and Truth

Amity and Truth

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2006

W/N

Seems to be a common problem.
I'm suffering from it as well, no more blessings after i hit Rank 8 (but there is a whole bar towards Spearmarshal at 15.000). Dunno, bug, intention. Who knows.

thelessa

thelessa

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

Texas

Purple Puzycats

R/Mo

I found that depending on your current level and the area you are in, you might or might not get the blessings.

SilentVex

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Maguuma Stade

Rank 8 is the cap for blessing (in the entire game) it seems. The only way I can think to get more would be a repeatable quest for 100 points. I'm not sure if one exists, however, and if it did...who would want to do it 75 times?

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by SilentVex
Rank 8 is the cap for blessing (in the entire game) it seems. Doubt it. It's probably a bug, because I heard somewhere that you can't get blessings for lightbringer points either if your r8 sunspear.

ronnietsunami

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

Colorado Springs, CO

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That's not necessarily true. I have r8 in the sunspear and have been getting blessings for the lightbringer. However, at the moment I can't get blessings for anything else.

moko

moko

??uo??o??

Join Date: May 2006

im able to get blessings for lightbringer although im sunspear R8, but as the others, i cannot receive any blessings for the sunspear. i hope this will change once i reach the vabbi area

heroajax1

heroajax1

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

By Any Other Name [Rose]

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Anyone have any updates on this? I still can't get any more sunspear points.

SilentVex

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Nov 2005

Maguuma Stade

It is most definitely not a bug. The responses from the guys at the shrine easily show that (things like, you've got bigger and better things to do). It would lead one to believe there is going to be another release of content (much like Sorrow's Furnace), but even if that's the case, I don't see why they would need to restrict people from going further, there just wouldn't be an advantage to it.

Santus Veritas

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada - West Coast Side

Ronin Dragon Legion

A/

somewhat the same as SilentVex said above - is what i was going to say...

but - what about this:

we can't be Sunspear Spearmarshall... because Kormir is still the Spearmarshall? for now anyways...

OmniTyrant

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2006

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Santus Veritas
somewhat the same as SilentVex said above - is what i was going to say...

but - what about this:

we can't be Sunspear Spearmarshall... because Kormir is still the Spearmarshall? for now anyways... That doesn't make sense since you can be Sunspear Castellan while Puuba is already Castellan.

Santus Veritas

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada - West Coast Side

Ronin Dragon Legion

A/

the thing is... is there allowed to be more then one castellan at the same time?

Gert Butterfing

Gert Butterfing

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

New Dragons [NDR]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by SilentVex
It is most definitely not a bug. The responses from the guys at the shrine easily show that (things like, you've got bigger and better things to do).
The responses from Sunspear Scouts indicate something else:

heroajax1

heroajax1

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

By Any Other Name [Rose]

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I get the same response gert. The vabbian scouts tell me something like they're impressed that I can make friends.

Y.T.

Y.T.

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mokone
im able to get blessings for lightbringer although im sunspear R8, but as the others, i cannot receive any blessings for the sunspear. i hope this will change once i reach the vabbi area nope u cant get any sunspear blessings in vabbi area, no matter what npc u're talking 2 - vabbi npc usually say smth like *shouldnt u be helping our princes* and sunspear npc (they're rare) often have empty dialog window

Two April Mornings

Two April Mornings

No Luck No Time No Money

Join Date: Nov 2005

Amherst College, MA

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Me/

Yep, can't get any more now, milked it and all the quests to 8k sunspear. Im really hoping that I can get more / max the title in the elite mission maybe?

Shanaeri Rynale

Shanaeri Rynale

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

DVDF(Forums)

Me/N

maybe you can only get more blessings in the as yet unknown elite areas..

Hengis

Hengis

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

London

Better Than Life (BTL)

R/

I too have reached the rank 8 Castellan wall. I currently have just over 8000 points, and may be able to find a few more quests I haven't done, but there is no way I am going to get 15,000.

I feel this has to be a bug, or that there is something in the game we haven't found yet.

I can remember on several occasions Gaile Gray saying things like:

"We would never put a title into the game that it is not possible to max".. (not an exact quote, but something similar)

The exception to this is the Lucky/Unlucky series which I think we all know we can only complete during special event.

But anyway, my point is that every other title is achievable, albeit some of them cost crazy amounts of money or take crazy amounts of time, but they are all possible, so there should be some way that this one can be maxed as well.

Xenrath

Xenrath

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

W/Me

It might just be like the Skill Hunter and Lucky/Unlucky title tracks, which previously could not be maxxed? Can't be maxxed out in Nightfall, possibly be built upon in future?

It could also be the case that there can only be one Spearmarshall (or Warmarshall). An earth analogy would be there is only one Supreme Commander/Commander-In-Chief/President/Prime Minister etc. That could be another reason why you can't progress (at the moment at least)

heroajax1

heroajax1

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

By Any Other Name [Rose]

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Ok, I was searching the title tracks on guildwiki and found this quote under the sunspear title track:

"Note#2: Once a character hits the Castellan title, priests will not give that player blessings anymore. The only way to achieve Spearmashall as of now is to enter an area just before 7500 points and keep killing foes that can be resurrected by their monks. "

Now, I don't know how anyone else will feel about this if it's true, but I can say for me this made me very angry. Why would they do that? That's gotta be the most moronic thing I've ever seen. Give us a title track then stop us from getting it? WTF?

Kry Onicle

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Nov 2005

Steel Phoenix [StP]

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by heroajax1
Ok, I was searching the title tracks on guildwiki and found this quote under the sunspear title track:

"Note#2: Once a character hits the Castellan title, priests will not give that player blessings anymore. The only way to achieve Spearmashall as of now is to enter an area just before 7500 points and keep killing foes that can be resurrected by their monks. "

Now, I don't know how anyone else will feel about this if it's true, but I can say for me this made me very angry. Why would they do that? That's gotta be the most moronic thing I've ever seen. Give us a title track then stop us from getting it? WTF? It is true, a couple in StP (4 to be exact) have reached r9 Sunspear. Pictures etc in a few other topics.

heroajax1

heroajax1

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

By Any Other Name [Rose]

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Ok, so basically because I went into a town after completely clearing an area of enemies, I'm screwed and will never be able to max out this title?

What idiot came up with that boneheaded idea?


edit: bug/complaint sent to a-net

Prospero

Prospero

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

Between keyboard and chair

KoTR

Hmmm.... the r9 workaround seems like a solution that was overlooked by ANet, not thier intention. I still think it's a bit early to come to a conclusion on this one. Maybe if you hold Gwen's Broken Flute when talking to the Sunspear.....

--Edit, never mind... seems it IS possible to get R9 without questing or blessings (well, no blessings on yourself)

heroajax1

heroajax1

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

By Any Other Name [Rose]

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Prospero, would you please share your information so I don't destroy my comp?

lennymon

lennymon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Seattle

Odin's Hammer [OH] - Servant's of Fortuna [SoF]

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perhaps it would be a spoiler to divulge this information.

heroajax1

heroajax1

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

By Any Other Name [Rose]

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ok lenny. since you seem to want to be helpful, here's a tip. help. it's not going to spoil it for me. I have r6, both protector titles, both mapping titles; have almost 70% of Elona explored already and am 8/20 toward the protector with none of the island missions done. I'm coming up on the torment area now and will probably be done with the game including protector and mapping titles by tomorrow night.

i'm coming here asking for help. not to get snide comments from you. i seriously hope that's not your intention, but seeing both of your replies to my posts, it seems that's your intent. if not feel free to clarify.

Prospero

Prospero

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

Between keyboard and chair

KoTR

Try going out with a lower ranked guildie. It's rumored thier blessing effects you. Although, there was a huge update last night, so I have not tested nor can I confirm it other than rumor.

--sorry I didn't reply sooner....stupid job and stuff.

gabrial heart

gabrial heart

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Las Vegas

Beautiful Peoples Club [LIPO]

Mo/Me

I think max sunspear was put there intentionally. From the get go when people were talking about how you couldn't get above a certain rank (r6 i believe), they sooner or later found out you could in fact recieve blessings in higher level areas. Now the only conclusion i have before people get to crazy over this is, either the elite area or some other area that everyone seems to be missing does contain a way to max out this title. I HIGHLY doubt that anet screwed this up by not thinking it through.

Prospero

Prospero

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

Between keyboard and chair

KoTR

The only evidence I have is that in another thread there is a screenshot of maxed level (and then some). I'm hoping they didn't use the 'let the baddies rez themselves' solution.

gabrial heart

gabrial heart

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Las Vegas

Beautiful Peoples Club [LIPO]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Prospero
The only evidence I have is that in another thread there is a screenshot of maxed level (and then some). I'm hoping they didn't use the 'let the baddies rez themselves' solution. They did, unfortuanatly.

BTW, did anyone happen to travel to the far eastern town in the poisonous area? There is an outpost waaaaay over there. I went there last night and there was a quest or 2 over there as well.

Stormcloud

Stormcloud

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Oregon, USA

There is a Challenge Mission/Arena thing where they have records keeper that gives points after r8. I hit 7500 before I got there and now I have around 7,600.

Prospero

Prospero

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2005

Between keyboard and chair

KoTR

Hmm....the screenshot I saw was like 16k thats 250 kills above what's needed. Why would you waste your time with that? Just get a few points over for proof of concept. Anyway...I'm going to try to find a Spearmarshall tonight and test my leeching theory.

lennymon

lennymon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Seattle

Odin's Hammer [OH] - Servant's of Fortuna [SoF]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by heroajax1
ok lenny. since you seem to want to be helpful, here's a tip. help. it's not going to spoil it for me. I have r6, both protector titles, both mapping titles; have almost 70% of Elona explored already and am 8/20 toward the protector with none of the island missions done. I'm coming up on the torment area now and will probably be done with the game including protector and mapping titles by tomorrow night.

i'm coming here asking for help. not to get snide comments from you. i seriously hope that's not your intention, but seeing both of your replies to my posts, it seems that's your intent. if not feel free to clarify. nope, sorry wasnt meaning to be snide at all... at the time I posted I had no idea what they were doing, and was just coming up with ideas why maybe it wasnt posted already. I've since done the reading also but now there are a few ideas posted.

Mundum

Mundum

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2006

With my pet wolverine.

Flaming Turtles

Rt/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Prospero
Hmm....the screenshot I saw was like 16k thats 250 kills above what's needed. Why would you waste your time with that? Just get a few points over for proof of concept. Anyway...I'm going to try to find a Spearmarshall tonight and test my leeching theory. If they went out in a guild group of 4 people, it means they were all most likely at different levels of sunspear. If you suddenly got the title, you wouldnt want to quit, would you?

So basically, the reason i see them getting over the max amount of points is to help their friends getting the title as well. If you were to get all four people together, you would find that the points probably scale progressively.

-- Why would they lie to you?

Gordon Ecker

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

Vancouver, BC, Canada

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Gaile Grey said that players currently aren't supposed to be able to max out the sunspear rank title track, and that the intended method of reaching sunspear rank 9 will be available once they release the upcoming major update. here's Here's the link.

Enko

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2006

VA

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mundum
If they went out in a guild group of 4 people, it means they were all most likely at different levels of sunspear. If you suddenly got the title, you wouldnt want to quit, would you?

So basically, the reason i see them getting over the max amount of points is to help their friends getting the title as well. If you were to get all four people together, you would find that the points probably scale progressively.

-- Why would they lie to you? it definetely does go faster with more people. i just got the title tonight using the rezing mobs in sulfurous wastes. did it by myself with 3 heroes and it took quite a while. since you need to be careful to not kill monks, i ended up just keeping the heroes on avoid combat to rez me when i ded (wurm mode). occasionally i used their locked on targetting to speed things up. with 4 players and 4 heroes to just sit there and rez when dead split up among 4 different mobs, it should go a lot faster.

btw, the dervish boss mob right outside the gates of desolation outpost works well for this as it spawns with at least 3 paragons with signet of return and a monk.

Azalyn

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Guardians of The Heroes

R/Me

Arghhhhhh! I have been using a Canthan elementalist and can't get blessings. I am not even a level 2 lightbringer yet!!!!!!!!

Any ideas??

Wolydarg

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

I Excentrix I [PuNK]

R/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Azalyn
Arghhhhhh! I have been using a Canthan elementalist and can't get blessings. I am not even a level 2 lightbringer yet!!!!!!!!

Any ideas?? Talk to whisper's acolyte or something like that in the Chantry of Secrets, he'll give you some info and exp and maybe lightbringer's gaze, not sure. After that, the whisper informants will resume giving you bounties.

Thorondor Port

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

British Columbia

W/

Some people have it maxxed (15000) or w/e max sunspear pnts are), what you do is go to an area when you have about 7495 sunspear pnts, then kill everyone on the map except priests, then come back to where u have already been, kill the group resed by the priest, and repeat.
(no idea how long it would take, id imagine at least 10 hours)

ask yourself, how bad do u want this title before...
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10072893

AlienFromBeyond

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stormcloud
There is a Challenge Mission/Arena thing where they have records keeper that gives points after r8. I hit 7500 before I got there and now I have around 7,600. Which mission exactly? Dajkah Inlet?