The 16th Hero?

DevilsSidekick

DevilsSidekick

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

The Combine

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Well played through the campain and enjoyed it a lot (goes for my guildies aswell). But 1 thing is still missing, the 16th hero; Razah.

The Manuscripts state on page 61 that there is another hero, was just wondering if anyone else has stumbled across him? and if so where u got him.

Glitched

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

E/Me

I hope someone finds him, it appears as though he can play any profession and I need a Ritualist!

Clawdius_Talonious

Clawdius_Talonious

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Screwston, Tejas

KOS

N/Me

I didn't see him and I beat the game, maybe he has something to do with the Elite mission, I haven't done that yet I suppose...

Celeborn

Celeborn

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

England

Gameamp Guides [AMP]

Mo/Me

Same as the mysterious key you can trade for, but theirs no chests for. :s

Exoudeous

Exoudeous

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Honor Warriors

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16? i beat the game and there is only 14, how do you get a 15th

Vahn Roi

Vahn Roi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2006

[HiDE]

Wouldn't he be the one from the Mists? The one who has "variable" for a profession?

roblethal

roblethal

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

USA (EST)

Ultimate Genesis [GEN]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Exoudeous
16? i beat the game and there is only 14, how do you get a 15th Since you can only pick either Acolyte Jin or Acolyte Sousuke, Im guessing the 15th is whichever one you didnt choose. Not sure though since I havent finished the game yet.

Exoudeous

Exoudeous

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

Honor Warriors

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Quote:
Originally Posted by roblethal
Since you can only pick either Acolyte Jin or Acolyte Sousuke, Im guessing the 15th is whichever one you didnt choose. Not sure though since I havent finished the game yet. no when you beat the game you get the quests for all the ones you didnt choose, i have both jin and souske.

Im just wondering what this 15th hero is. I got both chapter specific heros, and all 12 of the normal heros

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

He's not availabe at the Priest of Balthazar either. Maybe ANet hasn't added him yet?

Súrion Sirfalas

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

Its all to do with that statue of truth I tell's ya!

conspiracy!

Shadis

Shadis

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

His/her/it's description makes it seem pretty powerful. I kinda hope he's hidden away somewhere and not just "to be" added. Secrets in Guild Wars are few and far between... couldn't hurt to have an old fashioned hunt for him.

Súrion Sirfalas

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

pitchforks at the ready!

Fluffyx

Fluffyx

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Courtney PantsuLand

Death By Teazu [TEA]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Arkantos
He's not availabe at the Priest of Balthazar either. Maybe ANet hasn't added him yet? This is more likely because he is a PvE reward. But then again some people might consider having a hero that we all think can change to any profession will give pve players an advantage.

Cacheelma

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

So...who's the 15th? I can only count to 14 myself.

Let's see.- (SPOILER!)






Koss
Sousuke
Jin
Dunkoro
Melonni
Tahlkola (sp)
Zhed
Magrid
Master of Whispers
Norgu
Goren
Morghan
Zenmai
Olias

That's 14. Am I missing someone?

Neo Nugget

Neo Nugget

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jan 2006

R/

Mabey hes like.....gwen.....nobody knows about him. lol

Shadowfrost

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Planet Earth (sometimes)

Nowhere To Run, Nowhere To [Hide]

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This is the GuildWiki list:

Koss
Dunkoro
Melonni
Tahlkora
Acolyte Jin
Acolyte Sousuke
Olias
Zenmai
Zhed
Margrid
Master Of Whispers
Goren
Norgu
General Morghan

And the multi-proffesioned hero from the mists:
Razah.

Thats... 15 heroes.

Blue Steel

Blue Steel

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Blue Empire [BLUE]

W/Mo

Read Razah's description a little closer in the manual; there is a big clue in there that most of you are missing about its nature. I don't like to spoil things, though.

Yanman.be

Yanman.be

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

[ROSE]

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YOU are teh 16th hero.

Geishe

Geishe

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

The Agonized

Rt/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue Steel
Read Razah's description a little closer in the manual; there is a big clue in there that most of you are missing about its nature. I don't like to spoil things, though. Are WE that suitable human template that the mists requires to create Razah?

Does that mean we will actually go to the mists anytime soon??

O_O

Lil Pips

Lil Pips

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2005

Somewhere between scampering and stabbing

Lords Of Tinytown

Does it have anything to do with fighting our doppelganger, as in Prophecies?

Do we do that anywhere in Nightfall? (Apologies I'm taking NF nice and slow to enjoy it)

If not, any chance going *back* to Prophecies Doppleganger is necessary?

SziP

SziP

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

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Hehe, i know WHAT he/she is :giggles:, but i aint gonna spoil it for ya.

mega_jamie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2006

UK

Warlords of Ruin

A/Mo

so in other words you probably dont know?

What if razah isnt found in Nightfall, but is in propheices? or something

The undead Mesmer

The undead Mesmer

Delphian Scribe

Join Date: May 2005

Holland

No guild ;_;

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Yanman.be
YOU are teh 16th hero. You get the award for the most obvious answer EVER

But yeah where is that mist dude? i think it does have somethign to do with the elite mission...

yasmina

yasmina

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

NY

E/Me

I have a funny feeling he is located in Prophecies and probably if he comes from The Mists he has to do with the Tomb of the Primeval Kings which sound likes PvP time or maybe he has to do with the UW. I like to know where those crack the game open players are that have already uncovered his location.

Lucifer PVP

Lucifer PVP

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Refuge From Exile [RFE] Refuge-From-Exile.com

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Quote:
Originally Posted by yasmina
I have a funny feeling he is located in Prophecies and probably if he comes from The Mists he has to do with the Tomb of the Primeval Kings which sound likes PvP time or maybe he has to do with the UW. I like to know where those crack the game open players are that have already uncovered his location.
It is highly unlikely Razah is in Prophecies. Nightfall is a standalone game and i don't remember seeing Razah in the Prophecies manual. I honestly think Razah isn't implemented in the game yet along with the elite mission, both people that hinted they know where Razah is are full of it.
It is like saying i have the cure for aids ... but i don't want to spoil it for ya

Sir On The Edge

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Space Rangers

R/A

But I do have a cure for aids....

Desires

Desires

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir On The Edge
But I do have a cure for aids.... So do I its called Abstanince....

Anthony Vague

Anthony Vague

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jul 2006

Digital Chantry

E/Me

For this moment, I think it's awesome there's something nobody's discovered in the game yet, considering people are already selling endgame items for Nightfall.

I hope he exists.

ubermancer

ubermancer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

******************* Refuge From Exile [RFE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anthony Vague
For this moment, I think it's awesome there's something nobody's discovered in the game yet, considering people are already selling endgame items for Nightfall.

I hope he exists. Cough assassins promise cough.

TechnoSword

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2006

International SuperStars

W/Mo

Has anyone decided to scour the area in FOW and UW? Maybe hes hidden there somewhere.

LadyNilene

LadyNilene

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

Silver Millenium

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One of my guild buddies suggested that after you completed the the "Master Difficulty" quests...thats what they guess, i thought it was pretty interesting?

Dmitry

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

The Runner Academy

W/Mo

hmmm..."he came to be a fully formed adult" "can be of any profession" "asks silly questions sometimes" "came to be out of nowhere" ... hmm :P

Sophistry

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

wth is ubermancer coughing about.....

Dr_Knockboot

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2005

assassins promise along with some other elites werent implemented in factions when they realeased the game. They only introduced them in a later update on factions bosses, thus same thing here with razah not being implemented into the game at this stage :P

Vahn Roi

Vahn Roi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2006

[HiDE]

Quote:
Originally Posted by SziP
Hehe, i know WHAT he/she is :giggles:, but i aint gonna spoil it for ya. Could it be the variable hero who uses enemy skills? ;P

Robin_Anadri

Robin_Anadri

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Atlanta, GA

Girl Power [GP]

Me/Mo

Um, seriously, does anybody have any *real* info about "Razah"? it's really annoying not to have a Ritualist hero, considering they're doubling up on rangers, eles, necros, and warriors. At least have the *choice* to pick a rit hero.

Crazyvietguy

Crazyvietguy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

[Njk]

Rt/

Lets see, Who have we not found.. the 16th hero. Who else has been around in GW since the presearing that we have not found??

Looks a bit obvious to me folks

brokenmonkey

brokenmonkey

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

CA

[UC] Uber Crue

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Well as South Park would say.. "The 16th hero Conspiracy, is a Anet, Conspiracy" lol

But really were is he/she/it!

Dean Harper

Dean Harper

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

USA

The Killer Clan Musketeers [TKCM]

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Hmmmmm, well, i agree with some of u since they didnt provide a picture, maybe it is ur character.... who knows....


it says in the manual: "Hopefully Razah will find its purpose by working wth a hero." This only supports teh idea that it is probably ur character, since who works with heroes???? YOU DO!!!!!

Guildmaster Cain

Guildmaster Cain

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Guildmistress Eve [Me], Guildmistress Azura [N], Guildmistress Azumi [A], Guildmistress Jaina [D]

Guildmaster Aeron [Rt], Arthas Ironfist [W], Guild: The Tyrian Templars [TTT]

If I am the 16th hero, when do I get the option to choose to be a demon? This is also stated in the manual.

'It has the knowledge and capabilities of a normal human being, but lacks the common sense'
I doubt it that Anet would be insulting their own customers.
And stop this rumour, since its only based on ONE interpretation of a single line in the manual. Might as well go interpret evey single line in the Bible, Koran or whatever religious text and use it for your own purpose... oh wait, people already did that. DONT LISTEN TO INTERPRETATIONS, they are not the TRUE and ONLY way of reading something. Make up your own mind, think, rationality FTW!

Anyway, as someone posted before, It would be plausible that the Doppelganger is or at least related to Razah. The Doppelganger appears to have the same appearences as things that exist on the Demon realm, like Margonites, Roaring Ember and Djinis. That and the fact that it can be any class.