Elite Mission

TomD22

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So...has anyone completed Nightfall's Elite Mission yet? Has anyone even found it?

I spent a while today with a few people i know completing all the [Master] difficulty quests in the torment kinda area, in the hope they might lead to it, but it doesn't seem so (unless there's one we can't find somewhere).

Given that there's that hidden city where the cliff wall just crumbles if you happen to walk past...with no clues it's there otherwise...the elite mission could be hidden anywhere, though :s

Although, we thought it seemed like there were keys for the elite mission available in gates of torment...which made us think at least one way into it might be there. In which case it needs to be unlocked rather than found. Maybe.

So does anyone know? Care to speculate?

Celeborn

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http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/searchbt.php

TomD22

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Congratulations. That's a link to the Search function of this forum.

However, as you can see if you try the search yourself, it brings up one NF speculation thread from before the release, and a load of threads about cantha.

I'm asking if anyone has actually, already, found and/or completed the elite mission from Nightfall (and if not, where they guess it might be / how it might be accessed).

Celeborn

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Which has all been discussed in other threads...

[riVen]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by TomD22
Given that there's that hidden city where the cliff wall just crumbles if you happen to walk past...with no clues it's there otherwise... If you mean Dasha Vestibule, there definately is a primary quest leading there, it's just that you only get if if you pick Marged the Sly and not the Master of Whispers.

Exoudeous

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I can with confidence say that the elite mission is somewhere in the realm of torment. there is a collecter in the main outpost there thathas a key that doesn not match the normal ones used for that whole area

[riVen]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by =HT=Ingram
BTW Gurus search function officially SUCKS... Its like looking up how to spell a word and being given a non alphabetical dictionary...

If I want to keep track of something I subscribe to it so I can find it again via my user CP, Otherwise it don't exist as far as I'm concerned...

I mean the One and only function that was of use the "find all post by user" function, is LONG GONE... so there is no alternative but to subscribe to literally dozens of threads if you actually WANT to keep track of something in this conundrum.. QFT. Absolutely horrible and mostly useless.

KurtTheBehemoth

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lol celeborn just linked that to be a jerk. He doesn't have an answer and doesn't care.

this is a good thread though and should be updated regularly

Avarre

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The thread itself is useless - there is nothing important in it. When the actual mission is found, then a new thread should be created..

Possibilities :

Protector title?
Complete all master quests?

TomD22

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Exoudeous
I can with confidence say that the elite mission is somewhere in the realm of torment. there is a collecter in the main outpost there thathas a key that doesn not match the normal ones used for that whole area
Yeah, we noticed that. But there might be more than one entrance i guess.

Quote: There are more Masters quests than just those withing the Realm of Torment. I know that I've completed at least three of them just upon the starting island. Perhaps ALL of these Masters quests throughout Elona must be completed as a requirement to open the area for the Elite Mission.

Another thing is, some of these quests only open when you've obtained a certain Sunspear Rank. So in order to complete all of the Masters Quests, we may need to back track through every area once we have obtained rank 8 (or 9, when someone finds out how to reach it).

gabrial heart

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimarren
There are more Masters quests than just those withing the Realm of Torment. I know that I've completed at least three of them just upon the starting island. Perhaps ALL of these Masters quests throughout Elona must be completed as a requirement to open the area for the Elite Mission.

Another thing is, some of these quests only open when you've obtained a certain Sunspear Rank. So in order to complete all of the Masters Quests, we may need to back track through every area once we have obtained rank 8 (or 9, when someone finds out how to reach it).
I'm halfway to 9 and still have some sunspear quests to complete. I don't think I can make it with what i have left though. Basically i think you'd have to do just the priests blessings and bounties to get maxed rank then do the quests. I'm also and pretty sure you earn sunspear points in the challenge missions, which would also give you the warmarshal title, not to mention new spiffy armor.

I have 5 masters quests in realm (done with 2 of them), i think if i counted right, but i haven't done them yet. I also think max (lvl 6?) lightbringer might have something to do with the elite mission as well. I'm sure someone will stumble on it eventually.

Oh and it's *most likely* in "The Hidden City of Ahdashim", I'm thinking....

Amity and Truth

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Imho, the entrance condition won't be something you can only get when you're doing the quests in a certain order. That would limit the amount of players available for that mission to almost zero.
I also think that the elite mission is simply not yet included. Various things point into that direction. The most important one is the "bug" in the sunspear title track. I wouldn't be surprised if this were the entrance condition and the "bug" is in place so we can't reach it yet.

It wouldn't take me by surprise to see the elite mission getting included in 2-3 months from now. Sort of like Sorrows Furnace. This way they can also say they provided content inbetween chapters, even though it should have been in the game to start with (like Sorrows Furnace). Anyways, we don't know for sure, i'm just being superstitious because they ignore the Sunspear Title Bug.

Kry Onicle

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If you look in the Nightfall Manuscripts, read the part about Razah. Unless Im mistaken this is the one hero no-one has managed to obtain, at all. It mentions him being created in 'The Mists'.

Guild wiki...

'The Mists are the binding force of the universe. They were there before everything else and they are the source of all things including good and evil.

The Mists contain and connect the mortal worlds and The Rift, the worlds of the immortal gods and spirits.

Some immortal beings are apparently able to travel directly through the mist to step over from one world to the other, while mortal beings have to use special portals, such as the one located in The Tomb of Primeval Kings. '


Im pretty sure that nice circle in The Realm Of Torment that no one can reach will be ' The Mists'.

gabrial heart

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Amity and Truth
Imho, the entrance condition won't be something you can only get when you're doing the quests in a certain order. That would limit the amount of players available for that mission to almost zero.
I also think that the elite mission is simply not yet included. Various things point into that direction. The most important one is the "bug" in the sunspear title track. I wouldn't be surprised if this were the entrance condition and the "bug" is in place so we can't reach it yet.

It wouldn't take me by surprise to see the elite mission getting included in 2-3 months from now. Sort of like Sorrows Furnace. This way they can also say they provided content inbetween chapters, even though it should have been in the game to start with (like Sorrows Furnace). Anyways, we don't know for sure, i'm just being superstitious because they ignore the Sunspear Title Bug.
Whats the sunspear title bug? There is obviously a progression after lvl 8?

Shanaeri Rynale

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The manual also says under mission types, My paraphrase..

"Factions introduced two new types of missions, elite and challenge. You'll find both in NF. Elite missions are dungeons where up to 12 players fight through a series of rooms for rewards at the end" (read greens).

This *has* to be related to the protector title., If you had to prove your worth to the Luxon/kurzicks by FF'ig then proving your worth to the Elonians would fit in..

Thing is, if it is protector related gettting a team of 12 is going to take a while... Lol

gabrial heart

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shanaeri Rynale
The manual also says under mission types, My paraphrase..

"Factions introduced two new types of missions, elite and challenge. You'll find both in NF. Elite missions are dungeons where up to 12 players fight through a series of rooms for rewards at the end" (read greens).

This *has* to be related to the protector title., If you had to prove your worth to the Luxon/kurzicks by FF'ig then proving your worth to the Elonians would fit in..

Thing is, if it is protector related gettting a team of 12 is going to take a while... Lol I'm only missing the last 2 mission masters and i know a few people posted here that they have protector already, so it may not. You really only need 3 people for a group of 12

Kry Onicle

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Shanaeri Rynale
The manual also says under mission types, My paraphrase..

"Factions introduced two new types of missions, elite and challenge. You'll find both in NF. Elite missions are dungeons where up to 12 players fight through a series of rooms for rewards at the end" (read greens).

This *has* to be related to the protector title., If you had to prove your worth to the Luxon/kurzicks by FF'ig then proving your worth to the Elonians would fit in..

Thing is, if it is protector related gettting a team of 12 is going to take a while... Lol I'll have to disagree, as I remember ANET wanted to make Urgoz and The Deep more accessible permenantly, but never got round to it. Why make another elite mission as thinned to the community as Factions Elite missions? Of course protector titles are easier to get than holding a town but when taking Taxi's into consideration its roughly the same.

Ive also noticed how alot of the time ANET want feedback on highend areas they've implemented, but as of yet have hardly even mentioned Nightfalls Elite area which leads me to believe it isnt open as of yet.

gabrial heart

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Whats with the statue in chantry then? I've seen people kneel and talk to the ghost, then dissapear more then once, were those dev's or beta's testing it out?

Can you get on the other side after beating the game?

Which also makes me think about ascention, I mean there's no real mention of it. I can assume once you reach chantry your ascended, but i have no way to confirm this one either at the moment.

Swinging Fists

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Quote:
Originally Posted by gabrial heart
Whats with the statue in chantry then? I've seen people kneel and talk to the ghost, then dissapear more then once, were those dev's or beta's testing it out?

Can you get on the other side after beating the game? That's the Elonian entrance to UW / FoW.

Amity and Truth

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Aye.
There is something after it which directly belongs though hopefully no one will say WHAT it is because it is a huge story line spoiler.

/edit:
At the statues of Grenth and Balthazar. Yes.
But there is a gate leading to a closed part of the map.

gabrial heart

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Swinging Fists
That's the Elonian entrance to UW / FoW. No, thats not what i'm talking about, I'm talking about the "unfinished"area. "something" of truth statue.

gabrial heart

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Amity and Truth
Aye.
There is something after it which directly belongs though hopefully no one will say WHAT it is because it is a huge story line spoiler.

/edit:
At the statues of Grenth and Balthazar. Yes.
But there is a gate leading to a closed part of the map. Oh ok cool then i don't want to know.

byteme!

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Celeborn
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/searchbt.php

You failed try again.

Kry Onicle

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Quote:
Originally Posted by gabrial heart
No, thats not what i'm talking about, I'm talking about the "unfinished"area. "something" of truth statue. ****Minor Spoilers****








Once beating the game you can get to the otherside and acts like The Melandru, Lyssa,Dwayna statues (the ones you cant pay 1plat to enter)

Shanaeri Rynale

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Avarre
The thread itself is useless - there is nothing important in it. When the actual mission is found, then a new thread should be created..

Possibilities :

Protector title?
Complete all master quests? Useless it might be, but people might like to speculate/share ideas?

Complete all master difficulty quests is ruled out. As i said, that's what we did yesterday and it hasn't led to anything.

Avarre

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Have you done both of those, though?

Sophitia Leafblade

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Erm if u mean "Complete all master quests?" as in doing all the Mission to Masters lvl that is the protector of Elona title. If not what do u mean by all master quests? the primary quests? (as in the ones that get to to the next main mission normally)

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I've completed all quests in the realm of torment, including the 5 "masters" difficulty. Still nothing. I thought I was on to something when I had to find "the hunter" in the realm of secrets and didn't get any way points...but no.

CHUIU

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Did you get the "Gate of the Nightfallen lands" town then? Because I'm pretty sure thats where the elite mission might be.

Kuan Yin

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I have a Theory...

It said that Grandmaster Elonian Cartographer title open hidden areas.

Could it unlock the Elite Mission?

CHUIU

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Where did 'it' say that?

Grimarren

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Quote:
I've completed all quests in the realm of torment, including the 4 "masters" difficulty.
I'll have to disagree, as I remember ANET wanted to make Urgoz and The Deep more accessible permenantly, but never got round to it. Why make another elite mission as thinned to the community as Factions Elite missions? Call me cynical but we've been promised such things before, usually in the face of a lot of (and to calm down) player critism. I would not put it past them to make it exclusive but with hard work available to all. Rememer this chapter needs to last 6 months. Factions was tired after 2-3..

malevolence

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Amity and Truth
Aye.
There is something after it which directly belongs though hopefully no one will say WHAT it is because it is a huge story line spoiler.

/edit:
At the statues of Grenth and Balthazar. Yes.
But there is a gate leading to a closed part of the map. I managed to get there, and its the statue of the new god (XXXXX) , you can access it once you reached rank 1 lightbringer ( I have rank 2 now, and I have access to 2 special skills to kill demons ), if you kneel infront of the statue XXXXX's spirit pops up, but XXXXX say nothing.... , so maybe is the entrance to teh elite mission, but is not active yet.

Artemis Bladewing

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If it really depends on the master rewards I wonder how you an test that because currently the Mission "Dogahn Passage" is bugged, or has anyone completed the bonus?

What would the elite mission contain because the last missions solve most of the GW problems? :/

Swinging Fists

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The elite mission(s) is (/are) not meant to be part of the storyline.

boxterduke

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As other said I also believe that the elite mission is part of the new statue in the Chantry of secrets
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10070042

I think that Anet still have not added the area yet.

Bokocasso

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It should be accessible for all players, therefore completing the master quests is shount not be relevant to this. And I agree that it's either not included or not yet found. But it shouldn't be so hard to get in...

betterjonjon

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well if it is in the game its either hidden REALLY well or you have to do something to get it opened up(other then beat the game) becuz i have looked all over the place currently at 70% of elona unlocked so...

Lucifer PVP

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Quote:
Originally Posted by VisionXB
Sorry to tell you that the elite mission is very much in the game, as i just emailed and got reply that it very much in the game and working, the problem is you all are looking at the wrong place. If it not by the god thing then it not there so try other places. Assassin promise was in the game too according to their tech support... wasn't it added later