Australians Shafted Again?

Hodor

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Federated Communist Uber Korps

In Australia EB games apparently have some sort of exclusive deal with Nightfall for 7 days. The same thing happened with Factions.
EB are not common outside of capital cites, in fact the are only 3 EB shops in my state. The closest is 450km away.
One of the locals tried to organise some copies. EB will not ship us the game, they would not sell the pre-release separately to one of us who made the trip before Nightfall was available. Can't be there to put on a deposit for a CE, bad luck we won't reserve one. Our EBay copies haven't yet turned up either.

After Factions I was assured by email that this wouldn't happen again?

The rest of the world gets it on the 27th of October. We have to wait till the 2nd of November? We can't get the CE at all?

http://www.gameswarehouse.com.au/lon...p?gameid=13608

http://www.aussiegamer.com.au/catalo...y-p-16587.html

http://www.cheapgames.com.au/guild-w...ll-p-1289.html

http://www.gamehead.com.au/product.php?productid=91506

Seissor

Seissor

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Aug 2005

Squiggilyville. Population: Me.

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Not common outside capital cities>? I live in townsville, the arsehole of north queensland and we have two stores.

gamehead also do pre-orders

BerryRacer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

Same with New Zealand, no EB anywhere close to us down in Central otago, south island.

Gamesman and Game planet are the only two online stores i know of, both have no CE and have NF due on the second :/

Crowell The Fallen

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

Australia

Know Your Enemy [PMS]

Mo/

Indeed. Its not bad enough that Nightfall and Factions was sold exclusively through EB, but the customer service i had was terrible.

I also live quite far from an EB store. So, when i was trying to get a copy of the Prerelease bonus pack i tried calling them. First off, they wouldnt let me have the bonus pack without buying the game too, which meant i actually wouldnt recieve the bonus pack or the game until the game was actually released. They also wanted me to pay upfront, and then have to wait patiently for it. And when i mentioned that they had it advertised on their website as SOLD SEPERATELY, they hung up on me. Without another word, they put the phone down.

Of all the stores in Australia to give exclusive rights to, why did it have to be EB? The worst expirience of customer service i have ever seen.

I decided to get the game and pre release pack from America instead, as i am disgusted at EB and never intend on buying from them ever again.

Why would i want to support a company that hangs up on me for requesting a product on their own website?

Hodor

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Federated Communist Uber Korps

Quote:
Originally Posted by Seissor
Not common outside capital cities>? I live in townsville, the arsehole of north queensland and we have two stores.

gamehead also do pre-orders
What does that have to do with us in SA? Gamehead release date, 2/11/06.

Terra Xin

Terra Xin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2006

New Zealand

Me/R

Quote:
What does that have to do with us in SA? Gamehead release date, 2/11/06.
Since when did SA refer to Australia? You can always rename your thread title...

I reckon it just comes down to bad customer service, because it's clearly different between other EB stores.

Hodor

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Federated Communist Uber Korps

Quote:
Originally Posted by Terra Xin
Since when did SA refer to Australia? You can always rename your thread title...

I reckon it just comes down to bad customer service, because it's clearly different between other EB stores.
Please re-read my post.

Brother Redmund

Brother Redmund

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

Australia

guildless

Quote:
Originally Posted by Terra Xin
I reckon it just comes down to bad customer service, because it's clearly different between other EB stores.
This, by and large, seems to be the major problem; vast differences in the service provided by various outlets of the same store chain.

I live in regional QLD, there are 2 EB games stores in town. The guys were helpful, rang me when the pre-order came in, collected that at no addditional cost (provided I had put a deposit on NF), then they rang me on the 25th October to say that NF has arrived. The let me pick it up prior to the "release date" of the 27th, and simply said bear in mind the servers won't be live until the afternoon of that Friday.

It seems more an issue of the kind of service being received locally as opposed to a nationwide shafting.

Hodor

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Federated Communist Uber Korps

I think you guys are missing the main point from our pov. The EB exclusive for 7 days. We can't GET the game locally. The EB service completely a side issue.

Chuck Norris

Chuck Norris

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Australia

Ex Talionis [Law]

W/

Heh I guess I was lucky then, EB Games is like a 10 minute drive from my place and I was called at like 9am in the morning on the 27th because my copy of the CE had arrived

Hodor

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Federated Communist Uber Korps

Well, now it's the 3rd of October and well STILL can't get Nightfall locally. The exact same problem happened with Factions, it took nearly 3 weeks after release for any local shops to get copies.

lg5000

lg5000

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australia

I'd be interested in how many European countries the same thing happens.. out in the country, not in the main cities, because as far as I'm aware, the main cities in Australia managed to get copies of both the standard and ce version of nightfall. (I'm in canberra, I got both before release date and the ce wasn't a pre-order.. for the pre-order, I got a phone call 3 days prior to release that its in)

Sekkira

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

I strolled in and picked up the CE no problems on Friday 27th.

xiao1985

xiao1985

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

sorry to hear that...

hated local eb (at sydney, won't name the store, but i am sure i won't visit that store ever again) but i did pick up my NF CE on 26th

as far as i heard, you do need to pre-order to get the pre-order pack... i think minimum deposit is 10bucks...

Trvth Jvstice

Trvth Jvstice

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

HALE

W/

Wow! I thought Austrailians were too busy protecting themselves from the 10 most poisonous animals on the planet to be playing games. j/k

I'm sorry I didn't read the "Anet hates Austrailians" post that lasted for weeks earlier this year. But, it's obvious that either Anet or one of it's distributers has a deal with eb that put the dollar (or pound in your case I guess) ahead of the player.

I haven't figured out how eb could increase their profit by delaying the NF release, but I'm sure someone has a theory.

nossac

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

R/Rt

Tine for an update....

Australia hasn't used pounds for ages...

We have a dollar and cents system as well...

lg5000

lg5000

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australia

nossac, true.. but if you go to the online gw store, you get to pay in pounds if you're in Australia.. or did when I tried a while ago, not sure if they fixed it and are now letting us pay in Euro like our NZ counterparts.

kang

kang

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Australia

The Confidential Men [Cmen]

W/

I live in Australia, and I got the CE 3 days BEFORE release, because the servers didnt open before then EB just let me have it......

and I dont live in a capital city

Bowman Artemis

Bowman Artemis

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

Gold Coast, Australia.

Overclockers Australia [OCAU]

3 stores I know of in my city, got my CE 3 days before release and I am officially in a regional area. It depends on the individual store. This is EB btw. No EB for 450kms? Where do you live?!? You've gotta be out west somewhere.

Ghost_Stalker

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by kang
I live in Australia, and I got the CE 3 days BEFORE release, because the servers didnt open before then EB just let me have it......

and I dont live in a capital city
Exact same thing happened to me, got a call on the Wednesday saying my pre-order CE was in and went and picked it up, they had copies on the shelf too (both CE and SE), I'm not in a capitol either.

Hand of Shiva

Hand of Shiva

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Phoenix, AZ of the USA

Exalted of the Unconquered Sun

W/Mo

I'm sorry to hear our gaming brothers and sisters down under are having problems with getting their games in. I use to work for an EB here in the states and honestly what people are saying is true, it does depend store to store and on the store managers on the customer service. Also for some reason shipping of games are really sporadic. Some locations will get a ton of the item and others will get 0-1 copies of the item. I suggest for you folks who are having problems with customer service at your local EB call their headquarters or write a complaint email to their offices. Regional Managers are loathe to let customer service slide and I'm sure your problems will be addressed.

The reserve policy of EB is also that you put down some of the payment towards the item you wish to purchase. At no time prior to picking up your merchandise do you have to pay in full for the item. (There was an incident with the PS2 shortage in which those who had paid in full got their item before those that hadn't, but that was a store manager call not a corporate call.) However, with certain pre order items that you may see advertised they are not always garunteed (unless otherwise stated by a local ad that does not say "At partcipating locations only"), so preordering doesn't always mean you'll get your free tshirt etc. although most places are pretty good about giving you the promo stuff. So next time take down the name of the person you talk with, ask for a manager, take down their name and when they tell you you need to have paid for it in full or hang up on you report their butt to corporate and see if it happens again .

Hodor

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Federated Communist Uber Korps

Are GW releases an EB exclusive in any other country? Simply removing this problem would solve the issue we have here. I have access to game wholesale companies here, and they cannot get the game till weeks after release?

Hand of Shiva

Hand of Shiva

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Join Date: May 2005

Phoenix, AZ of the USA

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W/Mo

Well my friend let me put it this way. I picked up 3 different CE's +3 different normal games at 6 different locations. So no here in the US there was no monoply on The nightfall release. Tons of places had em, infact three of the places I visited had CEs on the shelves still not just for prereserve.

darrylhaines

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Freedom Of Midnight

E/

If I remember correctly, you guys can order games from Play.com as they deliver internationally.

As for the availabilty in Europe, here in the uk, as long as you have an internet connection you can order all your games online from countless stores.

Think of it as a trade off, you lot get the sun and not so good game availability, we get the rain and very, very good game availability

Sakan

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2006

Mo/

I love living within 30 minutes of 4 EB stores.
I had mine in my sweaty little hands 2 days before the server went up.

Couldn't you just buy a key online if you were that keen to get playing right away?

lg5000

lg5000

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australia

I just realised what was wrong with your post...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hodor
Our EBay copies haven't yet turned up either.
Seriously though, I don't live in the middle of nowhere like you do, never have, never planning on doing so.. but.. isn't there a way that EB's can deliver? Alternativly, would you happen to have family members who live closer to EB's who could pick it up for you and express mail it to you?

Hodor

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Federated Communist Uber Korps

Quote:
Originally Posted by lg5000
Seriously though, I don't live in the middle of nowhere like you do, never have, never planning on doing so.. but.. isn't there a way that EB's can deliver? Alternativly, would you happen to have family members who live closer to EB's who could pick it up for you and express mail it to you?
Of course there are ways around the problem. The point is why create such an artificial difficulty for your dedicated players in the first place? It is totally unnesessary, could be easily fixed, sell more copies, bringing in many new players, and so on.
It's not really the middle of nowhere either, it's the second largest city in South Australia. There are 3 EBs in the whole of South Australia.

generik

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Terra Xin
Since when did SA refer to Australia? You can always rename your thread title...

I reckon it just comes down to bad customer service, because it's clearly different between other EB stores.
SA = South Australia.

Hand of Shiva

Hand of Shiva

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Phoenix, AZ of the USA

Exalted of the Unconquered Sun

W/Mo

It just seems really weird to me that ANet or NCSoft would throttle the sale of their game by selling it through only one merchant (that being EB). Most companies attempt to saturate the market by having as many stores carry their product as possible. Even though I live in the states I totally agree with the folks saying that there should be more then EB carrying the game at launch if that's what's keeping my brothers down under from tearing it up in the digital world.

Zolderick

Zolderick

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Join Date: Nov 2006

Australia

N/

I was lucky to get my CE, it was the last one they had at EB