perfect orrish earth staff
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[riVen]
pc please.
StueyG
since they are dropping in NF which is really ghey, it won't be worth jack before long imo 
sell it fast, no idea on value, honestly dunno who would pay much for it since you can make them a dime a dozen
sell it fast, no idea on value, honestly dunno who would pay much for it since you can make them a dime a dozen
Malice Black
IMO its not perfect as its missing a mod. Perfect would be dual 10/10 with the 20% HSR.
Keep hold of it for now because im not entirely sure how the new staffs compare to the old ones.
Keep hold of it for now because im not entirely sure how the new staffs compare to the old ones.
Lichtenberg
the 2nd 10% casting u would need to add a 10% casting staff head. so just adding +30hp staff head makes it pefect, dual 10/10 would be better though.
StueyG
can you add two inscriptions to staves now? if so then just slap another on it... I honestly dunno why anyone would pay anything for stuff that can be inscripted, but eh oh well
figures.... sickkk just answered my question
basicly it's like what older staves would have been like, cept you have the option of extra casting instead of another mod
kinda silly that they made older stuff from Factions and all to have new updates but the rest of the inscriptions are NF only
figures.... sickkk just answered my question
basicly it's like what older staves would have been like, cept you have the option of extra casting instead of another mod
kinda silly that they made older stuff from Factions and all to have new updates but the rest of the inscriptions are NF only
Malice Black
With the amount of 20/20/20 greens around I can't see there being much of a market for 10/10 golds..except the rare skins like the dragon staff
[riVen]
All of you people talking about mods... since when do we factor replacable mods in when determining value? Ignore all gold text on that staff, all of that can be added for less than 5k. What matters are the inherent mods, all perfect. There is no way to add a 20% HRS yourself. Low req. Max dmg. Max energy. Orrish.
So, the only real question that matters to determine the value is: how common are orrish skins now in nightfall. So, I'd like to invite people that have found orrish skinned staves to post here, so we can get an idea of whether they are indeed more common now or not.
So, the only real question that matters to determine the value is: how common are orrish skins now in nightfall. So, I'd like to invite people that have found orrish skinned staves to post here, so we can get an idea of whether they are indeed more common now or not.
skreet preacha
Stu and Sikk, just FYI, it does have maxed mods, with that being the same old 4 mods on a staff. only one is now "inherent", the 20% HSR of everything, which is also common on staves now. but with the inscription plus a head plus a wrap, which this has, thats all that staves can have.
good question about staves being able to have 2 inscriptions though, since u'd think u'd be able to duplicate the 20/20/20 green staves, but maybe the greens this time really are "unique", lol, i dunno yet.
good question about staves being able to have 2 inscriptions though, since u'd think u'd be able to duplicate the 20/20/20 green staves, but maybe the greens this time really are "unique", lol, i dunno yet.
Rain Knight
pretty sure you can upgrade that orrish to 20/20/20 as well....just need the right inscriptions..and upgrades.
[riVen]
Yes.
Adept Staff Head (HCT Attribute 20%).
"Aptitude not Attitude" Inscription (HCT Attribute 20%).
... and the inherent HSR Global 20%.
Adept Staff Head (HCT Attribute 20%).
"Aptitude not Attitude" Inscription (HCT Attribute 20%).
... and the inherent HSR Global 20%.
Rain Knight
anyhow sorry to getting offtopic...as those mods have just said..its just kinda impossible for them to give you a value straight away....you know why
best thing to do is put it in the highend sale forum...and we'll see how it goes..oh yeah..one tip from rain..make it 20/20/20 =P
cheers and good luck.
best thing to do is put it in the highend sale forum...and we'll see how it goes..oh yeah..one tip from rain..make it 20/20/20 =P
cheers and good luck.
big papi
imo this shouldnt go for much since it can be so easily modded and it may not even be rare in elona
if some1 is gonna spend any decent money on an orrish staff there not going to want this 1 imo
if some1 is gonna spend any decent money on an orrish staff there not going to want this 1 imo
The Herbalizer
so let me get this straight. The only inherent mod on it is the 20% hsr. Do all nf staffs have the 20% hsr or can there be 18% / 19% etc?
If it only has one inherent mod its not going to be worth much.
edit: apparently all staffs have hsr now. So therefore its not going to be worth much.
If it only has one inherent mod its not going to be worth much.
edit: apparently all staffs have hsr now. So therefore its not going to be worth much.
skreet preacha
there can be 18/19% etc, and not just in NF, in any GW on every staff comes this way now, even white staves have up to 17% HSR of all spells (so far in my drops). however, only NF weapons can be "inscriptable", lol, and i dunno how the system works as far as white, blue, purp, or gold stuff, since i dont have NF... as for the PC, i agree, orrish staves not gonna be worth much if they are commonplace in NF. i'd venture to imagine that NF stuff in general wont be that expensive if you can simply slap ur own mods on anything u want. after the newness of NF and demand of its stuff wears off, u'd think Factions and Prophecies weapons would be MUCH more valueable and rare since they still have "inherent mods" that cant be salvaged, inscribed, or traded and still have to drop that way. that is if things stay the same. i wouldnt be suprised to see Anet update the first 2 chapters to include the same inscription system in the future.
oh, and if that confused u on staves, then let me point out then, that yes, they are an odditty right now, since they are the only type of weapon updated in all 3 chapters. all staves now do have a HSR of ALL spells on them, however, only NF ones can also have "inscriptions", like the one in this post. hypothetically, if the OPer got that staff from Tyria, it could look exactly the same, but the 10% mod wouldnt be "salvagable/inscriptable", it would just be an inherent mod. all other factions and prophecies weapons are the same to my knowledge. hope that didnt confuse further. :-P
oh, and if that confused u on staves, then let me point out then, that yes, they are an odditty right now, since they are the only type of weapon updated in all 3 chapters. all staves now do have a HSR of ALL spells on them, however, only NF ones can also have "inscriptions", like the one in this post. hypothetically, if the OPer got that staff from Tyria, it could look exactly the same, but the 10% mod wouldnt be "salvagable/inscriptable", it would just be an inherent mod. all other factions and prophecies weapons are the same to my knowledge. hope that didnt confuse further. :-P
unienaule
This staff tells me three things:
1) Sucks to be the guy who bought my 8all recharge/16earth cast staff.
2) Sucks to be me with my 9cast/10recharge old-school orr staff.
3) Although I want to buy an inscriptionable one, and it should be much cheaper, right?
PC gurus, let me know if/how any of my assumptions are wrong. Also, I might be interested in buying this one just to put mods on it.
1) Sucks to be the guy who bought my 8all recharge/16earth cast staff.
2) Sucks to be me with my 9cast/10recharge old-school orr staff.
3) Although I want to buy an inscriptionable one, and it should be much cheaper, right?
PC gurus, let me know if/how any of my assumptions are wrong. Also, I might be interested in buying this one just to put mods on it.
StueyG
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Originally Posted by The Herbalizer
so let me get this straight. The only inherent mod on it is the 20% hsr. Do all nf staffs have the 20% hsr or can there be 18% / 19% etc?
If it only has one inherent mod its not going to be worth much. edit: apparently all staffs have hsr now. So therefore its not going to be worth much. |
Which was the POINT being made in the first place, which means that it won't be worth all that much. Would be ignorant to pay loads for something that isn't that rare anymore. Besides if you've already found a "perfect" by know, then it means they aren't that hard to find as there were very few "perfect" orrish staves before.
Rain Knight
lol this is so gonna confuse people...but though confusing this is a summary of skreets statements and its true
- ALL staves now have 20% GLOBAL HSR if max
- ONLY NF staffs are insciptable
- old school staves with TWO rare inheret mods ie, 10/10 are now NERFED, so to Unienaule, i'd wanna keep that staff if i were you =P
(Quote: 2) Sucks to be me with my 9cast/10recharge old-school orr staff.)
and last but not least....if that weapon is from NF...urm...maybe its not that valuable?
- ALL staves now have 20% GLOBAL HSR if max
- ONLY NF staffs are insciptable
- old school staves with TWO rare inheret mods ie, 10/10 are now NERFED, so to Unienaule, i'd wanna keep that staff if i were you =P
(Quote: 2) Sucks to be me with my 9cast/10recharge old-school orr staff.)
and last but not least....if that weapon is from NF...urm...maybe its not that valuable?
StueyG
it has to be from Nightfall, which was as I said the whole point of my statements, items from NF are the only ones inscribable, and it clearly has an inscription on it, which means value = not much
extra bacon
rain=nub
agree with everyone above.
agree with everyone above.
badseed
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Can we add 2 inscriptions to staffs? If not that might be where the value is on the matching/global inherent you can not mod and what skin it is.
But I do like that skin over a lot I have seen from NF to this point. So far not one skin I would use on my toons, over what I have now.
Former Ruling
Nightfall made Orrish earth staves more common a drop...so of course you missed getting big bucks for it.
Nightfall also made the following common:
Sephis Axes
Dead Bows
So expect all these skins to be as cheap as other comparable skins now.
Nightfall also made the following common:
Sephis Axes
Dead Bows
So expect all these skins to be as cheap as other comparable skins now.
wilderness
It's too early for any of this, imo. Let's just sit back for a few weeks and let the dust settle.
These could still be relatively rare ..
(Been away for a while, has anyone got a picture of a 20/20/20 stave?)
These could still be relatively rare ..
(Been away for a while, has anyone got a picture of a 20/20/20 stave?)
badseed
I have seen a few 20/20/20 greens.
Found a pic of one.
I just want to know how it checks off on the mods. if it does a quick check then each time taking a 4 second skill having it go half then half again to 1 second. Or just bump to 40% chance.
Or yet again max being half cast time just giving us 2 chances at it, so basically we have 2 20% chances at it to HCT.
Found a pic of one.
I just want to know how it checks off on the mods. if it does a quick check then each time taking a 4 second skill having it go half then half again to 1 second. Or just bump to 40% chance.
Or yet again max being half cast time just giving us 2 chances at it, so basically we have 2 20% chances at it to HCT.
skreet preacha
two 20% HCT on a staff stack up to 36%, with a 4% chance for QCT (quarters casting time). dunno the math on it, but some guildwars site has that info... anyone able to confirm if you can have 2 inscriptions on a staff? if not, that would make the green ones one of a kind and worth more than the usual green i'd think... and out of my own curiousity, how do inscriptions work as far as replacing them? if u want to add an inscription to a sword that already has one, will it just replace the one thats on there (like a mod)? or does it have to be empty? in that case, are you able to extract inscriptions from weapons without destroying the weapon?
skreet preacha
well, i found the answer to one of my questions, no, you cant put 2 inscriptions on a staff, however, i guess they have heads and/or wraps that have HCT (dunno about HSR though). there is a holy staff as such here, that has a "swift" head http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10069782
Rain Knight
its called "adept staff head" max is +20%HCT of whatever attritube is on the staff...not an inscription
unienaule
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Originally Posted by Rain Knight
- old school staves with TWO rare inheret mods ie, 10/10 are now NERFED, so to Unienaule, i'd wanna keep that staff if i were you =P
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Rain Knight
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Originally Posted by unienaule
But... what about orr staves that drop in Prophecies? Couldn't those be 10allcast/20all recharge since they don't have inscriptions over there?
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in terms of rarity, the old ones would still be decent since you cant have two lines of inherent mods now since they dont drop anymore (also judging from the fact that yours isnt with crap mods ><)...somewhat "nerfed"......hence theres still value in it..especially for collectors..
i'll borrow the much common example of +5ene HOD, after the release of factions, people still buy them for decent amounts even though you can craft them for what? a few dollars + despite the fact that theres so damn many substitutes for the +5ene mods, axes, bows, greens...
just imagine the orrish is HOD but well a lot less supply than that.....think ya know the rest.....
anyhow i'd keep it in me storage if i were you
The Skull
just have to w8 a few weaks then check it again
Oofus
So far I have found 2 blue Orish staffs on NF noob isle, so I imagine they are considerably more common in NF. (also found 3 Tyrian skin Sickles there too but that’s another story).
Well, since this seems to have become the "PC section's staff discussion thread", can anyone confirm with certainty that with this new update the following PHOTOSHOPPED staff is not a possibility, 2 gold inherent mods as well as the white 20% mod, is that the deal now?
Well, since this seems to have become the "PC section's staff discussion thread", can anyone confirm with certainty that with this new update the following PHOTOSHOPPED staff is not a possibility, 2 gold inherent mods as well as the white 20% mod, is that the deal now?
Rain Knight
yeah that staff is definitely photoshopped........new staves (tyrian+canthan) can only have ONE inherent mod, NF can have none.....while the old ones had 2....
badseed
It looks like the the new dual mod are staff heads. I have found 10%HCT heads. Also found +health in stance staff wraps.
So these greens look like they are set up like, global (on golds in white) then the Head mod HCT%, the incription HCT% and then the staff wraps.
So these greens look like they are set up like, global (on golds in white) then the Head mod HCT%, the incription HCT% and then the staff wraps.