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LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

31 Oct 2006 at 05:06 - 1

If you watch the Making of GW there is a little girl in the credits that looks just like Gwen...

PanGammon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Underworld

Leader of Grenth Gaming Inc [GG]

Mo/Me

06 Nov 2006 at 18:28 - 2

You have it wrong. When the five gods cam forth, so did another darker power come too. It was Gwen. A creature of the mists so powerful that it killed stuff.

#SPOILER#
Gwen created Abaddon......

Giga Strike

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

stranded in vabbi this time

None [N/A]

06 Nov 2006 at 19:12 - 3

ok enough with gwen being the anti-christ. just because she beat the heck out of everyone after the prophecies beta testing doesnt mean she is abaddon or realted to abaddon in any way. she is just a little girl who went missing after the searing. even if it just started as a joke, the joke got old.

NinjaKai

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

UK

Duality Of The Dragon

07 Nov 2006 at 13:32 - 4

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giga Strike

ok enough with gwen being the anti-christ. just because she beat the heck out of everyone after the prophecies beta testing doesnt mean she is abaddon or realted to abaddon in any way. she is just a little girl who went missing after the searing. even if it just started as a joke, the joke got old.

The fact that they used Gwen to kill everyone was a joke to begin with. Its stupid how people think she is some sort of powerful thing. It was simply the dev teams sense of humor.

dargon

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

The Seraphim Knights [TSK]

R/

08 Nov 2006 at 00:09 - 5

Gwen = Razah

Giga Strike

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2006

stranded in vabbi this time

None [N/A]

08 Nov 2006 at 00:54 - 6

.....

jonnybegood

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

huh?

The Final Exodus[FX]

08 Nov 2006 at 09:44 - 7

Quote:

Originally Posted by dargon

Gwen = Razah

Quote:

.....

Lolzors, you can never argue with insanity.

Crepuscular

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

LaZy

E/

09 Nov 2006 at 07:15 - 8

Quote:

Originally Posted by PanGammon

You have it wrong. When the five gods cam forth, so did another darker power come too. It was Gwen. A creature of the mists so powerful that it killed stuff.

#SPOILER#
Gwen created Abaddon......

wtf you going on about!? Abbadon was the eldest of the six gods (maybe I should say 7 gods, because there was another god that ruled the underworld before grenth kicked da sht out of him/her/it)

Guildmaster Cain

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

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09 Nov 2006 at 11:24 - 9

But, if Dhuum, Balthazar and Menzies are brothers, they also have a mummy and daddy...

Trakata

Crimson King

Join Date: Jun 2006

Resplendent Makuun

Song of the Forsaken

09 Nov 2006 at 13:46 - 10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guildmaster Cain

But, if Dhuum, Balthazar and Menzies are brothers, they also have a mummy and daddy...

Possibly, it could be kind of like Greek mythology, where Zeus was the son of Cronus, son of Uranus, etc. There could've been some old pantheon before the current gods, much like how Grenth replaced Dhuum (although, why don't we hear about Melandru beating up some other nature god? Doesn't make sense).

Also, where does it say that Dhuum is related to Balthazar?

|pyro|

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Me/

09 Nov 2006 at 14:48 - 11

She camed out of her mother. This is her origin.

Tera

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

England

Society of Souls [Argh]

E/

09 Nov 2006 at 14:53 - 12

every1 knows gwen is glint

hehe o/j, i reckon gwen survived the searing and is hiding somewhere... u never know we might find here hiding in elona somewhere

Sidra

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Mar 2006

CT

NITE

R/

11 Nov 2006 at 22:25 - 13

Gwen is actually a henchmen. After extensive surgery and psychological interviews/sessions, she is now known as "Little Thom".

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

12 Nov 2006 at 03:41 - 14

Enough with the joking... I'm telling you in the Making of GW nightfall shipped with the Collector's Edition of Nightfall...the little girl spins around like Gwen and has the same hairstyle...

-Old 3FL-

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2006

Western Australia.

Crystal Mountain [CM]

W/

12 Nov 2006 at 07:40 - 15

I have never seen Gwens parents in the game, though i think they are in the Underworld somewhere, because there is a dead Ascalon Guard down there saying "I died defending the wall, and this is my reward?"
So i presume her parents lie in there.
If ANet ever do finish the Gwen story, then i should think that her origins shall be linked in there somewhere.

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

12 Nov 2006 at 20:39 - 16

-Old 3FL-
in Uw don't you talk to Gwen's mom (name is Sarah) and she says she can't find Gwen anywhere.

icedragon981

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

At my computer

Teh Nine [lll]

N/

12 Nov 2006 at 21:36 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tera

i reckon gwen survived the searing and is hiding somewhere... u never know we might find here hiding in elona somewhere

We'll have to kill a lvl 30 super gwen at the end of Elona's elite mission.

draxynnic

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2005

[CRFH]

14 Nov 2006 at 03:16 - 18

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trakata

(although, why don't we hear about Melandru beating up some other nature god? Doesn't make sense).

Well, we haven't seen a realm for Melandru yet, or Lyssa or Dwayna for that matter. So it might be that she did beat up an elder nature god(dess) and we just haven't had the chance to see it yet.

Or it could be that, while the original pantheon had a balance of good and evil gods, the good side has been slowly weeding out and replacing the truly evil gods like Dhuum with more benign replacements - a gradual replacement of the gods that go crazy rather than wholesale replacement of the pantheon.

bsumlin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Stewards of the Ancient Rites [STAR]

Rt/

14 Nov 2006 at 05:48 - 19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crepuscular

wtf you going on about!? Abbadon was the eldest of the six gods (maybe I should say 7 gods, because there was another god that ruled the underworld before grenth kicked da sht out of him/her/it)

First of all, he was clearly joking. So cool down a bit.

Secondly, I'm not sure where you got your information, but it becomes clear later in Nightfall that Abbadon is not one of the eternal gods. So by a little induction, we can assume that the 5 true gods ARE eternal, and so by definition older?

Riesz

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

17 Nov 2006 at 19:51 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sidra

Gwen is actually a henchmen. After extensive surgery and psychological interviews/sessions, she is now known as "Little Thom".

I agree with this.

Tometheus

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Chicago

[FueL]

Me/

17 Nov 2006 at 20:55 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by LifeInfusion

Enough with the joking... I'm telling you in the Making of GW nightfall shipped with the Collector's Edition of Nightfall...the little girl spins around like Gwen and has the same hairstyle...

"boy"

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10067567

draxynnic

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2005

[CRFH]

17 Nov 2006 at 22:37 - 22

Quote:

Originally Posted by bsumlin

First of all, he was clearly joking. So cool down a bit.

Secondly, I'm not sure where you got your information, but it becomes clear later in Nightfall that Abbadon is not one of the eternal gods. So by a little induction, we can assume that the 5 true gods ARE eternal, and so by definition older?

I don't know - Grenth did replace his predecessor, so he's probably not eternal either. Although he could have been a god of cold from the start and only picked up death from Dhuum...

That said, I have wondered why Dwayna and Melandru have wings while the others don't - could it be an indication that these two goddesses could be different to the others, and could this difference be that they were the original, eternal deities while the others appeared along the way? Of course, it could just be an affectation - if it was just Dwayna I'd ignore it as part of her control over air, it's the fact that shrines of Melandru also have the wings that puts me into conspiracy theory mode - but Dwayna and Melandru being the elder gods would go some way to explaining Dwayna's leadership of the pantheon.

Rainman

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

none

P/

18 Nov 2006 at 00:25 - 23

gwen is somehow from the same bloodline as the ''undead lord'' possesing supernatural powers but when a charr shamaqn kills her with ''charr rage'' *ELITE SKILL* for 10 seconds target is dead and stays dead after the 10 seconds aswell, dhuum snatches her soul and keeps her as a prisoner in the sacred place of unholy crap that isnt in guild wars yet. in the elite mission you will have to find a way to defeat dhuum and save gwen from this evil god (btw grenth helps you by giving you special skills ^^)

Dr Imperial

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

[DVDF]

18 Nov 2006 at 03:14 - 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by PanGammon

Gwen created Abaddon......

lmao!!!

Rainman

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

none

P/

18 Nov 2006 at 10:46 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by draxynnic

That said, I have wondered why Dwayna and Melandru have wings while the others don't - could it be an indication that these two goddesses could be different to the others, and could this difference be that they were the original, eternal deities while the others appeared along the way? Of course, it could just be an affectation - if it was just Dwayna I'd ignore it as part of her control over air, it's the fact that shrines of Melandru also have the wings that puts me into conspiracy theory mode - but Dwayna and Melandru being the elder gods would go some way to explaining Dwayna's leadership of the pantheon.

dwayna and melandru have wings because the others float (except balthazar he just uses a jetpack(well he is the god of fire!))

Tide to Go

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

I War Torn I [Torn]

N/Me

18 Nov 2006 at 19:09 - 26

dont talk bad about gwen (dramatric music) she put our tyrian heroes where we stand today she gaves us strength and taught us well as we bought her flutes capes and flowers.thats why i think she will be an important link in one of the next up coming games

DeathandtheHealing

Banned

Join Date: Jun 2006

In a PVE GUILD YAY! :P

Me/Mo

18 Nov 2006 at 20:09 - 27

Quote:

Originally Posted by LifeInfusion

-Old 3FL-
in Uw don't you talk to Gwen's mom (name is Sarah) and she says she can't find Gwen anywhere.

one of the first smart things said in this thread, i remember that when i was duoing the uw way back when.

Tide to Go

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2006

I War Torn I [Torn]

N/Me

18 Nov 2006 at 20:28 - 28

dont talk bad about gwen (dramatic music) she put our tyrian heroes where we stand today she gaves us strength and taught us well as we bought her flutes capes and flowers.thats why i think she will be an important link in one of the next up coming games

Puebert

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

Mo/

18 Nov 2006 at 20:44 - 29

Gwen is...

Oprah.

Its so obvious. -_-

Some Guru Named Kai

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

westAscalon4lyfe?

Giggity Giggity [GOO]

W/

18 Nov 2006 at 22:08 - 30

Gwen quit Guild Wars after Anet refused her terms on her salary. She packed up and left to join the wind orchestra in NYC. She's now a renown flute player, touring all over Europe with her musical group, "The Unbroken Flutes". Since Anet didn't want to pay legal rights to use her face, it just seems reasonable to believe that the Charr searing completely obliterated her pixels.

She is now married to a Russian painter and has 2 children, twin boys.

pinoy474

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Deviants of Heaven [DoH]

W/

18 Nov 2006 at 23:37 - 31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Some Guru Named Kai

Gwen quit Guild Wars after Anet refused her terms on her salary. She packed up and left to join the wind orchestra in NYC. She's now a renown flute player, touring all over Europe with her musical group, "The Unbroken Flutes". Since Anet didn't want to pay legal rights to use her face, it just seems reasonable to believe that the Charr searing completely obliterated her pixels.

She is now married to a Russian painter and has 2 children, twin boys.

Man that has to be it. I could of swore I saw Gwen the last time I went to NYC.

Kong

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

18 Nov 2006 at 23:50 - 32

Gwen is Dhumm.

Why can't you people accept it?

Tarus From Taros

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

18 Nov 2006 at 23:51 - 33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crepuscular

wtf you going on about!? Abbadon was the eldest of the six gods (maybe I should say 7 gods, because there was another god that ruled the underworld before grenth kicked da sht out of him/her/it)

Actually Abaddon is younger then the 5 gods. He got his power from another god before him.

draxynnic

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2005

[CRFH]

19 Nov 2006 at 07:17 - 34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tarus From Taros

Actually Abaddon is younger then the 5 gods. He got his power from another god before him.

Well, we don't know if Grenth was a god before he knocked over Dhuum. It could have been that originally death and cold had seperate gods and Grenth absorbed Dhuum's powers to gain command over both, or Grenth could have gained his power from Dhuum just as Abaddon and Kormir did from their predecessors.

So he's not necassarily younger than Grenth at least, and for all we know, some or all of the other Gods have similar origin stories.

Westofeden

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

TN

Naga Stole Mah Bike [OhNo]

R/E

21 Nov 2006 at 13:26 - 35

Quote:

Originally Posted by Some Guru Named Kai

Gwen quit Guild Wars after Anet refused her terms on her salary. She packed up and left to join the wind orchestra in NYC. She's now a renown flute player, touring all over Europe with her musical group, "The Unbroken Flutes". Since Anet didn't want to pay legal rights to use her face, it just seems reasonable to believe that the Charr searing completely obliterated her pixels.

She is now married to a Russian painter and has 2 children, twin boys.

That is by far the best explanation yet