Bad Name Bannage :-(
Sir Skullcrasher
So how many peoples here got banned for bad names?
led-zep
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Originally Posted by crimsonfilms
And if you get a kick out of naming your characters with offensive names you are pathetically lifeless individual.
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yes some people go over the top but to sensor perfectly innocent names because they might contain a mildly offensive (if at all) reference is just plain stupid, the 'jewel' example mentioned earlier is a perfect representation of 'pc gone mad' and also peacock, now as far as im concerned a peacock is a bird not a cleverly renamed dick joke
ElinoraNeSangre
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Originally Posted by Kyosuke
This is why peopleplay on US servers, Euro Servers, Korean Servers, etc..... part of it is bandwith, but culture is another.... the US is more prude than any other country out there anyway.....
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In some ways the US is prude, but I think the US is more unpredictable than anything. There's so many people from different cultures, backgrounds, upbringing... The US to a degree doesn't seem have a lot of it's own consistant culture. You never know what you're going to get, and you might get one of the people who just doesn't care and is thick skinned and open minded, or you might get a crazy overly religious person who wants the world to be santized so that their children never see real life (gasp, the horror!). Said children usually end up as dysfunctional adults incapable of dealing with life but that's an entirely different topic that I don't need to go on about.
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Originally Posted by mrgoat
There is. It's just a tiny bit more work.
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Originally Posted by led-zep
if you get offended by names in a computer game then you are a patheticly insecure person
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Maxiemonster
If they're banning for either of these names, maybe they should ban "I Hate Black People" as well?
Captain Arne Is PRO
Borat is copywritten, perhaps.
crimsonfilms
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Originally Posted by led-zep
very true but what some sensitive little flower finds offensive many others will not.
yes some people go over the top but to sensor perfectly innocent names because they might contain a mildly offensive (if at all) reference is just plain stupid, the 'jewel' example mentioned earlier is a perfect representation of 'pc gone mad' and also peacock, now as far as im concerned a peacock is a bird not a cleverly renamed dick joke |
And you forget the game has many minors playing and in so many different places across the world (society as in general terms not just national boundaries). What is acceptable varies from place to place with different standards. It would be foolish, business wise, not be on the 'safe side'.
This has nothing to do with the PC police.
If you are looking for freedom with language I suggest playing a game rated for Mature.
This is pointless. Names have such a minimal affect on your enjoyment. You guys are making mountain out of mole hills. Not like you are making some important social commentary with your names that will benefit the mass.
Even if you did and try, GW the game is the wrong place to do so.
Skuld
WoW have a clear code, examples such as:
No names of famous ppl
No names from other similar themed games e.g. no Legolases
No religious-related names
The GMs enforce these and it seems sensible. Prehaps GW needs a page like that explaining (I don't think there is one on the site).
No names of famous ppl
No names from other similar themed games e.g. no Legolases
No religious-related names
The GMs enforce these and it seems sensible. Prehaps GW needs a page like that explaining (I don't think there is one on the site).
ischuros
i wonder if porch monkey is acceptable? (you have got to have seen Clerks 2 to have gotten that)
sorry, jus jk. Sometimes these things can be over zealous, but I can accept that as long as they catch the really nasty stuff. Just my two cents.
sorry, jus jk. Sometimes these things can be over zealous, but I can accept that as long as they catch the really nasty stuff. Just my two cents.
My Passion
Id just like to point out the simple clue that seemed to slip by those who believe that the names are not racial in anyway shape or form.
The innocence of the names would be true if Bard of Ascalon had made the names in 1st or 2nd chapter, however he made the names in Nightfall and what location is it portrayed as? Africa. t's easy to see why the name X T O K E N X could be interpreted to be a racial and inappropriate name.
The innocence of the names would be true if Bard of Ascalon had made the names in 1st or 2nd chapter, however he made the names in Nightfall and what location is it portrayed as? Africa. t's easy to see why the name X T O K E N X could be interpreted to be a racial and inappropriate name.
mrgoat
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Originally Posted by Captain Arne Is PRO
Borat is copywritten, perhaps.
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Sir Skullcrasher
I'm going to name myself Dan Marino .... hopefully no one will find that offensive! And yes it will be a male paragon with green and white armor. 
Captain Arne Is PRO
It's also a proper name. I don't know if you even can copyright "Borat". Can you get a copyright on "Smith", or "Jones" or "Bobson"? I am not a lawyer. I think you can trademark it, but I don't think you can copyright it.
Eh that's what I meant. And yes, you can, Paris Hilton is copywritten. :P
Eh that's what I meant. And yes, you can, Paris Hilton is copywritten. :P
Velvet Wing
I reckon she is more then just copywritten ^^
Kyosuke
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Originally Posted by Captain Arne Is PRO
Eh that's what I meant. And yes, you can, Paris Hilton is copywritten. :P
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Now, there can only be one "famous" Paris Hilton, as all actors/singers,etc.. register their names, but beyond the hollywood scope those names matter not...
Smile Like Umean It
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Originally Posted by Kyosuke
It's not like you go into Lion's Arch and people are saying "Gosh Darn Stupid Jews" or Effing N****" over and over again.. Sure it may happen once in a blue moon, but people's names mean nothing... Get over yourselves. Especially when most black people called each other "Negro" and the other word too ALL THE TIME. And it's in fun and joking and just chillin' -- People who get overly upset about this ittle stuffa re the problem in today's society as said above... If yu wouldn't complain about it, it'd eventually go away.. but raising a fuss, just causes more drama and provokes it more, because people like to get a rise... not for racist reasons, for comedic reasons.
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And yes you are right that black people call each other certain words. Some black people not most. The meaning now is completely different from it's original meaning.
If everyone followed you in keeping their mouth shut about something they didn't like there'd probably still be slavery and women wouldn't have equal rights.
Ebony Shadowheart
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Originally Posted by My Passion
Id just like to point out the simple clue that seemed to slip by those who believe that the names are not racial in anyway shape or form.
The innocence of the names would be true if Bard of Ascalon had made the names in 1st or 2nd chapter, however he made the names in Nightfall and what location is it portrayed as? Africa. t's easy to see why the name X T O K E N X could be interpreted to be a racial and inappropriate name. |
Narutoscryed
I think they should just give people the oprotunity to change the name they have.. because allota folks dont know what can be considerd offensive..
<--------- i take pride in the fact that my ign is in NO WAY offensive...
<--------- i take pride in the fact that my ign is in NO WAY offensive...
Former Ruling
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Originally Posted by Redwinter
Borat has to do with a movie with a racist take on people from Kazakhstani. Apparently, some official from Kazakhstani took out an editorial in the New York Times telling people how offensive the movie was, and how it didn't portray Kazakhstanis in a good light.
Token tends to refer to the 'token black guy' in movies. It's race oriented, and when put beside Borat, seems more race oriented. I can see those two as a pair not looking great for ya. |
I repeat: Theres nothing bad about those names, there are people in my own guild with names that would make you blush if you dont like his names.
Another case of them hitting the little guy because the big guys are too...Big.
They go on a name-banning spree and take more innocent names like Token, while WAYYYYY more offensive names arent touched. Just like when they Mass Ban Bots, they "accidently" ban alot of innocent people while not even dinting the obvious bot community. If ANY GM at ALL decided to go to Droknars International or the other farm spot they could pick the real botters in a second.
SilintNinjya
i hope i dont get banned for having a japanese styled name on my factions character.....
but seriously, if i do, ill get pissed. Kintaru is not offensive. im sorry if i want an asian name in an asian themed game!!!...this does actually have me worried.
but seriously, if i do, ill get pissed. Kintaru is not offensive. im sorry if i want an asian name in an asian themed game!!!...this does actually have me worried.
hidden_agenda
Actually, I sort of swing both sides on this.
As someone mentioned, there is no "freedom of speech" in private enterprises. we, as players, bought the game, even our characters technically do not "belong to us" but is just a database entry in a database owned by Anet / NCSoft.
However, I also am of the opinion that Anet is crewed by some pretty smart folks, so they don't want to get all the players upset. The problem, most likely, is that the filter has some unintended side-effects. For example, in checking for "Jew" it banned the word "Jewel" as a previoius post mentioned.
Perhaps the best way would just be for Anet to keep an updated list of what they're banning somewhere that the players can take a peek. It's less frustrating once the problem is clarified as oppose to the current word-guessing game.
As someone mentioned, there is no "freedom of speech" in private enterprises. we, as players, bought the game, even our characters technically do not "belong to us" but is just a database entry in a database owned by Anet / NCSoft.
However, I also am of the opinion that Anet is crewed by some pretty smart folks, so they don't want to get all the players upset. The problem, most likely, is that the filter has some unintended side-effects. For example, in checking for "Jew" it banned the word "Jewel" as a previoius post mentioned.
Perhaps the best way would just be for Anet to keep an updated list of what they're banning somewhere that the players can take a peek. It's less frustrating once the problem is clarified as oppose to the current word-guessing game.
Lag Hell
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Originally Posted by Velvet Wing
Anyway, back on topic, I wanted to create a char named: Rayne Jewel of Istan.. but it was forbidden.. I learned that that was because Jew is a part of Jewel and therefore forbidden.. darn, cause I just wanted her to refer to one of the best looking ingame towns in the game
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Gorebrex
AFAIK, private companies CAN "make their own rules", but if in the US, they ARE subject to US law(the Constitution, an applicable state/local law). As proof of this, I offer a picture of ANets user license agreement.
As you can see, the agreement is enforcable by the laws of the state of Texas, which is in the US, and that places it under US law. Meaning that(again, AFAIK), ANet CANNOT lawfully make any rules which would violate the US Constitution, as far as the American districts are concerned.
As you can see, the agreement is enforcable by the laws of the state of Texas, which is in the US, and that places it under US law. Meaning that(again, AFAIK), ANet CANNOT lawfully make any rules which would violate the US Constitution, as far as the American districts are concerned.
Clawdius_Talonious
Did they not even warn you about your "offensive" name and not offer to change it? That seems a bit odd to me, as those names don't jump right out at you as offensive... I mean you see people out there with some really twisted names, especially on PVP only characters.
I personally don't find anything offensive, but I've got... What's that called... Ohh, a sense of humor...
I can see why Anet doesn't have room for a sense of humor, but I thought that you got warned before outright banning... I'd be extremely upset if Anet banned me for a name without warning after seventeen months of playing and hundreds of GW recommendations.
I personally don't find anything offensive, but I've got... What's that called... Ohh, a sense of humor...
I can see why Anet doesn't have room for a sense of humor, but I thought that you got warned before outright banning... I'd be extremely upset if Anet banned me for a name without warning after seventeen months of playing and hundreds of GW recommendations.
SirErnieMacGloop
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Yarly
Heh, so they ban the names with the most subtle of links to whatever may offend someone. Yet names like "fuuuk me", and "petite pussy" aren't banned :P How daft.
Excuse my use of "real" igns.... but theres a point which needs to be brought forward here
Excuse my use of "real" igns.... but theres a point which needs to be brought forward here
Res Ipsi
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Originally Posted by Yarly
Heh, so they ban the names with the most subtle of links to whatever may offend someone. Yet names like "fuuuk me", and "petite pussy" aren't banned :P How daft.
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Yarly
Ohh yes they are real. Doesn't really matter if the mods delete them, im sure we all can come to the conclusion that ANet's "offensive name filter", must be feeling a bit under the weather
Malice Black
My new Dervish is called "Civil War Movement"..lets see how long that one lasts.
Yarly
Haha... Maybe they'll send you an email asking for confirmation as to which civil war you were thinking of when creating your character, the harsher and more controversial the war deciding the force with which to bring down the ban bat..lol
Sekkira
Kill Without Consequence (Warrior)
Death Incognito (Assassin)
Divine Massacre (Dervish)
Demand Mastery (Mesmer)
Even though I don't know an ounce of Latin, it rocks for these kind of names.
Death Incognito (Assassin)
Divine Massacre (Dervish)
Demand Mastery (Mesmer)
Even though I don't know an ounce of Latin, it rocks for these kind of names.
Diablo???
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Originally Posted by EULA #15. General Provisions
This Agreement is governed by and shall be construed and enforced under the laws of The States of Texas, without applying any conflicts of law principles which would require application of the law of any other jurisdiction...
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In contrast with the so called "Freedom of Speech & Expression", it is not just a United States Constitutional right, it is part of the United nations Universal Declaration of Human Rights Article 19, but it specifies in detail that it protects the IDEA of an expression, not the matter of which it is delivered in. To express an idea, no matter how profound or negative it is, has been everyone's right, but there are limits to how that idea is expressed:
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Originally Posted by Article 19
1. Everyone shall have the right to hold opinions without interference.
2. Everyone shall have the right to freedom of expression; this right shall include freedom to seek, receive and impart information and ideas of all kinds, regardless of frontiers, either orally, in writing or in print, in the form of art, or through any other media of his choice. 3. The exercise of the rights provided for in paragraph 2 of this article carries with it special duties and responsibilities. It may therefore be subject to certain restrictions, but these shall only be such as are provided by law and are necessary: (a) For respect of the rights or reputations of others; (b) For the protection of national security or of public order (ordre public), or of public health or morals. |
Just because you're invited into a Jewish person's home, "Freedom of Speech" does not protect you from shouting anti-semitism.
Mr Pp
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Originally Posted by Clawdius_Talonious
Did they not even warn you about your "offensive" name and not offer to change it? That seems a bit odd to me, as those names don't jump right out at you as offensive... I mean you see people out there with some really twisted names, especially on PVP only characters.
I personally don't find anything offensive, but I've got... What's that called... Ohh, a sense of humor... I can see why Anet doesn't have room for a sense of humor, but I thought that you got warned before outright banning... I'd be extremely upset if Anet banned me for a name without warning after seventeen months of playing and hundreds of GW recommendations. |
mrgoat
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Originally Posted by Captain Arne Is PRO
Eh that's what I meant. And yes, you can, Paris Hilton is copywritten. :P
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I mean, as far as I know. If you can cite her copyright on her own name, please do so. I searched on copyright.gov, but they only have searches on books, music, documents, etc. Nothing on names.
Now, you can't use the name in Guild Wars for a character name, because it's a famous person's name, and Arenanet bans the use of those. While it's possible that it is your constitutional right to call your wammo Paris Hilton, it's also daft. Of course, Paris is the name of a city in France, and France is offensive to some people who were in favor of the Iraq war, hence you probably can't call your character Paris Jimbo, Paris Born Rifle Dropper, Parisian Donut, or Homeless In Paris. You might not get banned immediately, but I'd guess you shouldn't plan on putting a year into that character, just in case. Name yourself Askjuilbhana Kijilalala instead.
On second thought, that might be offensive to native Gibberish speakers.
mrgoat
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Originally Posted by Diablo™
Just because you're invited into a Jewish person's home, "Freedom of Speech" does not protect you from shouting anti-semitism.
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Provided you're not violating any other laws, you can shout it from the rooftops. Just don't make a public disturbance with it, and don't expect a whole lot of sympathy.
Former Ruling
I love how people instantly jump to making this a Legal issue in these threads talking about EULAs and such lol. It isn't a legal issue at all, you can't sue because they banned your little account ina game. People would laugh at you.
The question is, will Anet become Everquest. If Everquest now...EVERY name is either used or banned lol. No proper names, no famous names, no games connected to similar games, etc.
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As for Anti-Semitism and racism and such...though you "technically" can be racist and such, the law doesn't prevent the system from being hard on you because of it. If a Random Guy was on trail for murdering a black guy..It'd run like normal, If a KKK member was on trail for murdering a black guy...Thats a Hate Crime...He is likely going to be convicted with minimal evidence and get the maximum sentence.
The question is, will Anet become Everquest. If Everquest now...EVERY name is either used or banned lol. No proper names, no famous names, no games connected to similar games, etc.
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As for Anti-Semitism and racism and such...though you "technically" can be racist and such, the law doesn't prevent the system from being hard on you because of it. If a Random Guy was on trail for murdering a black guy..It'd run like normal, If a KKK member was on trail for murdering a black guy...Thats a Hate Crime...He is likely going to be convicted with minimal evidence and get the maximum sentence.
Diablo???
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Originally Posted by mrgoat
Actually, it does. What it doesn't protect you from, is being kicked off their property for it.
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Metanoia
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Originally Posted by SirErnieMacGloop
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This reminds me of some poor kid who thought "Sambo" was a cool name for ALL of his characters (Sambo The Great .etc), apparently it's a racial slur. So, with absolutely no warning that someone in a far away land once used it to insult someone in another far away land, all his characters were deleted.
Ps. @ meowmeow89. You're beyond pathetic to do that to a fellow player.
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Originally Posted by Narutoscryed
<--------- i take pride in the fact that my ign is in NO WAY offensive...
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mrgoat
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Originally Posted by Diablo™
That's true, but what I actually was refering to was the proprietor's right to "kick you out" (like you said) as in relation to "banning" a player.
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I just don't think they've been very consistent in their enforcement, when "Knee Grow" and "U R Ghey" are running around, but "Borat X" and "Rayne Jewel of Istan" aren't. I personally would prefer they let more "offensive" names in, since they... already don't do much about them. But that's not my call.
Neo Nugget
I made a character named X mad king thorn X cuz i was into the haloween spirit.Had him for 1 month,wanted to remake him elonian.Now its a bad name>.<(I can see why but why is this just taking effect.)
Tachyon
I just want to call my pet White Tiger 'Bagpuss', but for some bizarre reason that particular name is banned!
Bloody weird and quite anal if you ask me!
Bloody weird and quite anal if you ask me!