Petition: 0% Item Destruction when salvaging Insignia/Runes from own Armor

The proposed suggestion:
Prevent our own armor from being destroyed when we are using Superior Salvage Kit to extract the said insignias or runes.

If you agree, then
/sign
/Yes
/Just do it, ANET

If you do not agree, then please share your point of view with us.

If you somewhat agree and somewhat do not agree, please do share your proposed ideas with us.

Discuss.

Signed / Yes
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Tuoba Hturt Eht

Un-Signed / No
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/signed

/signed for insignias

They pretty much have that already dudes just raise ur wisdom and treasure titles. at max titles those are both +21% (base 50%) 50+42= 92% = 8 percent its destroyed = u have a better chance of finding 300k on the ground

Edit: /Notsigned

/notsigned
because back before the update you couldn't get the upgrade comp *and* keep the item. Now they change it and suddenly you want 100% success rate? I recommend to improve titles which give you added %s

try maxxing out the 2 titles you mentioned. Not a easy task. to most players gold dosent come easy.

/signed as i do not want my armors to be destroyed. for the weps and enemy armors dont really care

:P Even without any in the title theres still a good chance u'll have the item, I salvaged 100 things since friday, only 12 of them were destroyed

/singed

Before Nightfall, it would of been no, but with the new Elona Armor and the new system for armor/weapon upgrades, yes.

Ok so they give u this benefit and still ye guys demand more, now I know why people on the 2k6 collector thread are saying us players demand everything on a silver platter

Just spend the cash and replace the insignia or runes...its a loss but it keeps the economy flowing..

/not signed

Got to agree with Red on this one. The only reason you should be salving a Rune off would be if you plan to scrap the armour in the first place.

Also, knock off with the "Petitions", ANet is a developer, not a local authority.

lol some petitions I can understand but some of these are just stupid, I;ve never seen so many petitions here before NF came out

Yeah and 1 mil gold or more or months of playing to attempt to get that title + cost of keys. NOT feasable for the casual or semi-casual player. Best you'll get is first title which is a piddly 3% bonus. So your chance is still a total crap shoot / coin flip. 50%. Thats BS.

/sign
/Yes
/Just do it, ANET

Without this ability the whole insignia system is a waste of time.

/not signed

Eventually by playing the game normally you will max out your treasure Hunter and Wisdom Seeker titles.

Maybe not tonight, or tomorrow, but I guarantee that you will.

You see, herein lies the problem:

No Elonain armor has innate mods (+ energy etc etc). I have 11 character, and I dont want to hae to re buy and buy and buy all the insiginias over and over again, it wastes time. What if I want to go SS, I dont want to the MM insignia, I want the + Energy version.

Like I said, I have 11 charactes, but you know how LONG it would take to get those titles? Golds dont drop as often as whites do.

Lets say I play 5 hours a day (More than a casual gamer does.) All I do is missions, questing etc. I get an average 1 gold item every day. Do you see the genius of your post? (I dont mean to flame, but yes, you will get the title, but some people have more than 1 char.)

/signed, btw.

/signed

The reason insignas is out is so somebody could have just one set of armor and swap out the stats. With the current system, it may well be more expensive (due to chances of armor loss) to do that then it would be to just have multipule sets. It is counterproductive to the whole system.

Question: Has anyone actually lost a piece of their own armour in a salvage yet?

/signed

If it was just runes to take in to consideration then I would not be signing but with insignias to has to be.

Though I'm sure someone has already, such a question is still largely irrelevant here, because we're not talking about what has happened. We're focusing on making sure this new armor system is successful in the future. It's a long, long time before any of us will get into the higher Wisdom percentages for that to have an effect, and some of us are going to have three, four, and, as hard as it is to believe, eleven characters going through Nightfall. That's A LOT of Wisdom points to accumulate on each character. It's completely unrealistic to expect players to max out Wisdom--especially when there's a chunk of casual gamers here who don't focus on titles. I know I don't.

This insignia system's goal is armor flexibility. That depends on armor salvage reliability. Without this guarantee, the potential flexibility of such a system is utterly castrated, and like others have said, lack of such a guarantee is counterproductive to a system that is clearly designed to allow flexibility with regards to armor.

And realistically, something like this, where armor integrity or lack thereof during salvaging can have severely adverse impacts on the player--especially those with limited gold and/or time resources--is ultimately counterproductive to the philosophy behind Guild Wars...that philosophy being gaming flexibility.

Gaming flexibility is why refund points were removed from the game.

Gaming flexibility is why we now have skill set templates.

Gaming flexibility is why we were guaranteed to salvage runes out of armor drops in an update sometime last year.

Gaming flexibility is why ANet tries to minimize the amount of grind in the game.

And one of the most important points here? Gaming flexibility is why we have Nightfall.