GuildWars is often label'd as an MMORPG withought a monthly fee now this is simply not true. the prices are from the offical in game store and are in US dollars. and the dates are if u picked up each copy on release date wich alot of us have.
April 28, 2005 proph is released for 49.99
April 28, 2006 factions is released for 49.99
October 27, 2006 nightfall is released for 49.99
now the time between proph and factions is exactly one year *easy math yay :P*. so that made proph $4.17 dollars a month if u bought on release date and bought factions on release date.or about $0.14 cents a day not bad at all.
now we got factions wich was released on april the 28th till october the 27 wich is $8.33 dollars a month for factions or $0.27 cents a day.
im not gonna do the math on nightfall simpley cause chapter 4 is not out yet.but it has been said more then a dozen times each chapter will come out in 6 months. so for the majority of us guildwars cost 8 dollars a month. now some of you will have the argument "but i dont have to buy a new chapter to play an old one" wich is true but in each new chapter there are more then enough exclusive content wich improves older chapters. don't shoot the messenger
GuildWars has a monthly fee
KCBeserk
sykozylot
there is no monthly fee, and here is why:
you aren't forced to pay to keep playing. the way you worded it, new chapters could be considered upgrades. nothing wrong with payin for those...
moral of the story - if you want to keep playing, you can do so without paying more.
you aren't forced to pay to keep playing. the way you worded it, new chapters could be considered upgrades. nothing wrong with payin for those...
moral of the story - if you want to keep playing, you can do so without paying more.
Claudia Starlight
Then The Sims 2 also has a monthly fee..
EDIT: And compared to other pay-to-play MMORPGs, you can still log on to the GW world and do stuff instead of being unable to do anything because you didn't pay... In other words, "not paying the monthly fee" does not take the game away from you (unlike other MMORPGs)
EDIT: And compared to other pay-to-play MMORPGs, you can still log on to the GW world and do stuff instead of being unable to do anything because you didn't pay... In other words, "not paying the monthly fee" does not take the game away from you (unlike other MMORPGs)
Tetris L
You're beating a dead horse, and this thread will likely be locked very soon.
Nobody forces you to buy the new campaigns, you can keep playing Prophecies for free, without a monthly payment, if you want to, or if you think the new campaigns aren't worth the money.
cointerm
This is an old topic, but let me bring up my own anecdotal situation. I wanted Nightfall the day it was released, but couldn't get it. I was broke.
I got it yesterday. I could've gotten it next week, or next month, or next year. Or never. The difference between this and classic MMOs is that Anet doesn't cut me off from the GW servers if I can't or won't pay for one of the chapters. I can continue playing to my heart's content.
If you're a GW fan, and want every release on release-day, then I suppose you could say, "sure, there's a monthly fee". But there's comfort in knowing you don't have to get it.
I got it yesterday. I could've gotten it next week, or next month, or next year. Or never. The difference between this and classic MMOs is that Anet doesn't cut me off from the GW servers if I can't or won't pay for one of the chapters. I can continue playing to my heart's content.
If you're a GW fan, and want every release on release-day, then I suppose you could say, "sure, there's a monthly fee". But there's comfort in knowing you don't have to get it.
-Loki-
Releasing expansions to a game does not mean it has a monthly fee.
EiS
i don't get where you get the logic in this there is no monthly fee cuz with other MMOs that do the have the monthly fee you still had to pay the lump sume of 50 bucks to buy the game and then still pay the lets say 15-20 a month for the fee where as Guild wars you just had to pay that lump sum once and not having to keep paying its like all games you buy all have the usaully 50 bucks when new price and it kinda goes for the same as Half life 2 Episodes you don't have to buy the older ones to the newer ones to play any of them you still have to pay for the price of the game but you don't have to keep paying a fee to play it you logic is flawd alot of ppl try to say it have a fee but most forget that other mmos that have the fee you still have to pay the 50 bucks to buy the game like every game has but still have to keep paying for a fee to play but guild wars you don't
Zamochit
Area Net are running a business, and a business needs to make money.
I for one appreciate the speed that they are bringing out the new chapters and the quality of the various improvements that have been made. The amount of time and effort that has gone into these games is unquestionable, as is the areanet ideal of 'no monthly fee'. You are by no means obligated to purchase the new chapters. leave your account for six months come back, try to log in...and oh look you can...what a surprise.
People buy the new chapters because they look forward to them, and the six months between them is imo the perfect balance between getting the most out of one chapter, and looking forward to the next. The sales over this period (I would imagine) enable Anet to fund the forthcoming chapter.
Roll on chapter four.
I for one appreciate the speed that they are bringing out the new chapters and the quality of the various improvements that have been made. The amount of time and effort that has gone into these games is unquestionable, as is the areanet ideal of 'no monthly fee'. You are by no means obligated to purchase the new chapters. leave your account for six months come back, try to log in...and oh look you can...what a surprise.
People buy the new chapters because they look forward to them, and the six months between them is imo the perfect balance between getting the most out of one chapter, and looking forward to the next. The sales over this period (I would imagine) enable Anet to fund the forthcoming chapter.
Roll on chapter four.
Arduin
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You're beating a dead horse, and this thread will likely be locked very soon.
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Oh a GW forum
No one makes you buy new chapters.
End of discussion.
End of discussion.
Tetris L
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Lag Hell
so to ur opinion ANY game which requires a CD that needs to be paid for has a monthly fee...
nightfall and factions can be taken as 2 new games, there is no need to buy them, im sure anet has put just as much effort into these 2 as prophacies
nightfall and factions can be taken as 2 new games, there is no need to buy them, im sure anet has put just as much effort into these 2 as prophacies
Shadowfox1125
When WoW came out, it was at $49.99. When Prophecies, it was also $49.99. After the first 30 days of WoW, you had to pay $30 for 60 days. With Prophecies, you would have paid nothing extra.
Your logic is flawed. I go purchase a game at $60 and play it for 60 days. Is that a monthly fee of a dollar a day? No. I can play the game for another 60 days. Now I've paid half a dollar a day?
Your logic is flawed. I go purchase a game at $60 and play it for 60 days. Is that a monthly fee of a dollar a day? No. I can play the game for another 60 days. Now I've paid half a dollar a day?
arcanemacabre
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so to ur opinion ANY game which requires a CD that needs to be paid for has a monthly fee...
nightfall and factions can be taken as 2 new games, there is no need to buy them, im sure anet has put just as much effort into these 2 as prophacies |
Sure.
I guess you could say that...
aron searle
I go to burger king 6 times a year, spending approxamatly 15 pounds each time, which means buger king has a monthly fee of 6x15 / 12 = £7.50 a month.
Also i bought the matrix trilogy on dvd each time it came out, meaning it had a yearly suscription fee of £14.99.
If guild wars has a monthly fee, so does everything else.
Also i bought the matrix trilogy on dvd each time it came out, meaning it had a yearly suscription fee of £14.99.
If guild wars has a monthly fee, so does everything else.
danyjr
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nightfall and factions can be taken as 2 new games, there is no need to buy them, im sure anet has put just as much effort into these 2 as prophacies
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Arduin
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No they haven't. Speaking of how diverse and big Tyria was comparing to Cantha and Elona, you'll have to admit that more effort was put into Prophecies than any other chapter.
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But if your going to compare the diversity of Tyria to Cantha and Elona as you are saying, are you then comparing the size of the world map, the amount of new professions, or the diversity of areas, or something altogether different? Because it would be near impossible to add 6 new professions to each chapter (in terms of skill balance) and an increase in diversity of areas just gives you yet another desert/jungle/mountain area. I mean, how diverse can they make the game world?
The thing is, Anet cant make another chapter like Prophecies, because it all has to be linked to the earlier released chapters. This limits their possibilities. Moreover, Prophecies gave us basically Tyria + Core of the GuildWars Universe, Factions gave us Cantha, Nightfall gave us Elona. So yeah, Factions and Nightfall aren't that big or diverse, but I think this is justified.
Sli Ander
So..can anyone tell me the monthly fee on my old Zelda games? I'm sure it must be pretty low by now...
/edit This whole thread is just flamebait and will probably end up a circular argument if not closed soon...
/edit number two: You also forgot to add in the monthly cost of the internet, electricity, the initial cost of your computer, the mousepad, desk its sitting on(if applicable), the surge protector,..The list goes on and on!
/edit This whole thread is just flamebait and will probably end up a circular argument if not closed soon...
/edit number two: You also forgot to add in the monthly cost of the internet, electricity, the initial cost of your computer, the mousepad, desk its sitting on(if applicable), the surge protector,..The list goes on and on!
RTSFirebat
This thread is really going no where.
Also Guildwars is a Competitive/Cooperative Online Role-Playing Game (CORPG), not a MMORPG... why do people not get that?
Also Guildwars is a Competitive/Cooperative Online Role-Playing Game (CORPG), not a MMORPG... why do people not get that?
bigwig
I'm sure someone has beaten me to the punch, but you can still play prophecies if you don't buy an expansion, therefore no subscription fee.
But thanks for pointing this out to us all sherlock.
But thanks for pointing this out to us all sherlock.
Big_Iron
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You're beating a dead horse, and this thread will likely be locked very soon. Nobody forces you to buy the new campaigns, you can keep playing Prophecies for free, without a monthly payment, if you want to, or if you think the new campaigns aren't worth the money. |
This topic has been discussed ad nauseam.*
*(Definition of ad nauseam: So as to disgust or nauseate.)
Faith Angelis
Hold on, wait, I bought a shirt last year for £4, and I've just put it on and realised that the monthly subscription on my red T-Shirt is is like 33p a month!
*wanders off to have a word with the manager at top shop*
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Regardless. WoW = monthly fee; stop paying it and you can't play anymore. GW = No fee; don't buy chapter x and you can still play all chapters <x...
*wanders off to have a word with the manager at top shop*
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Regardless. WoW = monthly fee; stop paying it and you can't play anymore. GW = No fee; don't buy chapter x and you can still play all chapters <x...
Elruid
Ya, uhhuh. I'm paying 13.99USD/month.
But I got the 6 month package though, so it costs less than just subscribing for a single month.
Thanks to it, I will save about ten dollars for the purchase of Chapter 4.
But I got the 6 month package though, so it costs less than just subscribing for a single month.
Thanks to it, I will save about ten dollars for the purchase of Chapter 4.
Dmitry
as most of the above said you DONT have to pay to keep playing, it is your own choice to buy the expansion(stand-alone upgrades) of the game, your account will NOT be disabled simply because you dont buy the next game
Sekkira
If you spread the cost of any game you buy over a monthly basis, OBVIOUSLY it has a monthly fee. All games are pay to play, IDIOTS.
Spura
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Originally Posted by KCBeserk
GuildWars is often label'd as an MMORPG withought a monthly fee now this is simply not true. the prices are from the offical in game store and are in US dollars. and the dates are if u picked up each copy on release date wich alot of us have.
April 28, 2005 proph is released for 49.99 April 28, 2006 factions is released for 49.99 October 27, 2006 nightfall is released for 49.99 now the time between proph and factions is exactly one year *easy math yay :P*. so that made proph $4.17 dollars a month if u bought on release date and bought factions on release date.or about $0.14 cents a day not bad at all. now we got factions wich was released on april the 28th till october the 27 wich is $8.33 dollars a month for factions or $0.27 cents a day. im not gonna do the math on nightfall simpley cause chapter 4 is not out yet.but it has been said more then a dozen times each chapter will come out in 6 months. so for the majority of us guildwars cost 8 dollars a month. now some of you will have the argument "but i dont have to buy a new chapter to play an old one" wich is true but in each new chapter there are more then enough exclusive content wich improves older chapters. don't shoot the messenger |
Terra Xin
If ever... EVER... anet decides to make this game a monthy fee 'just' because this topic keeps coming up, I'm bringing out all of my guns...
Please stop talking about something that uses poorly manipulated maths. WoW has a monthly fee AND you have to pay for the expansion. The difference here is that they're smart enough Not to make the link between expansions and fees.
Now I feel sorry for other GW players who have to listen to this.
Please stop talking about something that uses poorly manipulated maths. WoW has a monthly fee AND you have to pay for the expansion. The difference here is that they're smart enough Not to make the link between expansions and fees.
Now I feel sorry for other GW players who have to listen to this.
Vilaptca
Life has a monthly fee.
SilentAssassin
there rly are some dumb ppl in the world 
Deleet
Following your logic => Everygame that costs money has a monthly fee.
Which is of course, not true.
Which is of course, not true.
Clord
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Also Guildwars is a Competitive/Cooperative Online Role-Playing Game (CORPG), not a MMORPG... why do people not get that? |
Wtf Its A Monk
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Originally Posted by KCBeserk
GuildWars is often label'd as an MMORPG withought a monthly fee now this is simply not true. the prices are from the offical in game store and are in US dollars. and the dates are if u picked up each copy on release date wich alot of us have.
April 28, 2005 proph is released for 49.99 April 28, 2006 factions is released for 49.99 October 27, 2006 nightfall is released for 49.99 now the time between proph and factions is exactly one year *easy math yay :P*. so that made proph $4.17 dollars a month if u bought on release date and bought factions on release date.or about $0.14 cents a day not bad at all. now we got factions wich was released on april the 28th till october the 27 wich is $8.33 dollars a month for factions or $0.27 cents a day. im not gonna do the math on nightfall simpley cause chapter 4 is not out yet.but it has been said more then a dozen times each chapter will come out in 6 months. so for the majority of us guildwars cost 8 dollars a month. now some of you will have the argument "but i dont have to buy a new chapter to play an old one" wich is true but in each new chapter there are more then enough exclusive content wich improves older chapters. don't shoot the messenger |
malevolence
Buying the expansions is up to you...
In prophecies you have the core characters, and if you want only to play with them (and prophecies campaing) there is no montly fee, and never was, I don't think that ANET will charge for monthly fee, ANET is just awesome.
In prophecies you have the core characters, and if you want only to play with them (and prophecies campaing) there is no montly fee, and never was, I don't think that ANET will charge for monthly fee, ANET is just awesome.
Qual
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Also Guildwars is a Competitive/Cooperative Online Role-Playing Game (CORPG), not a MMORPG... why do people not get that? |
Kiros37100
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/s...sOverview.html
"Guild Wars is a Cooperative/Competitive Online Role Playing Game (CORPG) with emphasis on skill selection similar to collectable card games."
"GG"
"Guild Wars is a Cooperative/Competitive Online Role Playing Game (CORPG) with emphasis on skill selection similar to collectable card games."
"GG"
Two April Mornings
It is a way to look at it, but its farfetched.
Guildwars has no monthly fee.
Guildwars has no monthly fee.
darrylhaines
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Because we was advertised to believe it was MMORPG before paying. However I enjoy in those games but once you finish story you use another character to complete storys or stop playing GW if PvP is not what you want only do after it.
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Otherwise, when I die and god gives me his invoice for my life, I might be a little light in the money department lol
Mercury Angel
Guild Wars IS pay-to-play subscription-based game... in some regions of the world, as I understand it. There's also an alternative payment plan, I believe, based on that system in place because of it. Considering I simply pay for the single price version, I don't remember much about it, but I do remember the topic coming up on occasion.
I'm not sure if it's monthly, or a packaged hour bundle. I think it's the latter, but it may be both.
*Edit: Note, I'm not willing to stake cash on the above. It's all hearsay, and I can't remember if I've ever seen anything official about any of it, though I'm pretty sure I did on the alternative payment structure for the hour bundles. Hmm. If I could only dig them up ><
As to the argument made in the OP, yes, it IS a gross inaccuracy to call it that. A monthly fee forces you to shell out cash to continue playing even what you already have. On TOP of what you pay for the game itself.
You can play Guild Wars Prophecies from the day of release to... indefinitely without paying anything more. It's completely optional to buy more. (Once again, talking about that specific payment style.)
I'm not sure if it's monthly, or a packaged hour bundle. I think it's the latter, but it may be both.
*Edit: Note, I'm not willing to stake cash on the above. It's all hearsay, and I can't remember if I've ever seen anything official about any of it, though I'm pretty sure I did on the alternative payment structure for the hour bundles. Hmm. If I could only dig them up ><
As to the argument made in the OP, yes, it IS a gross inaccuracy to call it that. A monthly fee forces you to shell out cash to continue playing even what you already have. On TOP of what you pay for the game itself.
You can play Guild Wars Prophecies from the day of release to... indefinitely without paying anything more. It's completely optional to buy more. (Once again, talking about that specific payment style.)
Tommy
not all games for paid to play
i have never paid a penny for any software in my life except Guildwars i always download them for free from internet. and for those i can't get for free i dont play imao GW worth nothing closed to 10 dollars a month, i wont be buying new chaters all i want from nf is heroes really i plan to make my chars afk in grotto to continue consuming Anet's resources until they no longer making any profit from me no software maker could possibly make a penny out of me!
i have never paid a penny for any software in my life except Guildwars i always download them for free from internet. and for those i can't get for free i dont play imao GW worth nothing closed to 10 dollars a month, i wont be buying new chaters all i want from nf is heroes really i plan to make my chars afk in grotto to continue consuming Anet's resources until they no longer making any profit from me no software maker could possibly make a penny out of me!
Clone
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You're beating a dead horse, and this thread will likely be locked very soon. Nobody forces you to buy the new campaigns, you can keep playing Prophecies for free, without a monthly payment, if you want to, or if you think the new campaigns aren't worth the money. |