GuildWars has a monthly fee

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KCBeserk
Krytan Explorer
#1
GuildWars is often label'd as an MMORPG withought a monthly fee now this is simply not true. the prices are from the offical in game store and are in US dollars. and the dates are if u picked up each copy on release date wich alot of us have.

April 28, 2005 proph is released for 49.99

April 28, 2006 factions is released for 49.99

October 27, 2006 nightfall is released for 49.99

now the time between proph and factions is exactly one year *easy math yay :P*. so that made proph $4.17 dollars a month if u bought on release date and bought factions on release date.or about $0.14 cents a day not bad at all.

now we got factions wich was released on april the 28th till october the 27 wich is $8.33 dollars a month for factions or $0.27 cents a day.

im not gonna do the math on nightfall simpley cause chapter 4 is not out yet.but it has been said more then a dozen times each chapter will come out in 6 months. so for the majority of us guildwars cost 8 dollars a month. now some of you will have the argument "but i dont have to buy a new chapter to play an old one" wich is true but in each new chapter there are more then enough exclusive content wich improves older chapters. don't shoot the messenger
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sykozylot
Pre-Searing Cadet
#2
there is no monthly fee, and here is why:
you aren't forced to pay to keep playing. the way you worded it, new chapters could be considered upgrades. nothing wrong with payin for those...

moral of the story - if you want to keep playing, you can do so without paying more.
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Claudia Starlight
Academy Page
#3
Then The Sims 2 also has a monthly fee..


EDIT: And compared to other pay-to-play MMORPGs, you can still log on to the GW world and do stuff instead of being unable to do anything because you didn't pay... In other words, "not paying the monthly fee" does not take the game away from you (unlike other MMORPGs)
Tetris L
Tetris L
Jungle Guide
#4


You're beating a dead horse, and this thread will likely be locked very soon.

Nobody forces you to buy the new campaigns, you can keep playing Prophecies for free, without a monthly payment, if you want to, or if you think the new campaigns aren't worth the money.
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cointerm
Ascalonian Squire
#5
This is an old topic, but let me bring up my own anecdotal situation. I wanted Nightfall the day it was released, but couldn't get it. I was broke.

I got it yesterday. I could've gotten it next week, or next month, or next year. Or never. The difference between this and classic MMOs is that Anet doesn't cut me off from the GW servers if I can't or won't pay for one of the chapters. I can continue playing to my heart's content.

If you're a GW fan, and want every release on release-day, then I suppose you could say, "sure, there's a monthly fee". But there's comfort in knowing you don't have to get it.
-Loki-
-Loki-
Forge Runner
#6
Releasing expansions to a game does not mean it has a monthly fee.
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EiS
Lion's Arch Merchant
#7
i don't get where you get the logic in this there is no monthly fee cuz with other MMOs that do the have the monthly fee you still had to pay the lump sume of 50 bucks to buy the game and then still pay the lets say 15-20 a month for the fee where as Guild wars you just had to pay that lump sum once and not having to keep paying its like all games you buy all have the usaully 50 bucks when new price and it kinda goes for the same as Half life 2 Episodes you don't have to buy the older ones to the newer ones to play any of them you still have to pay for the price of the game but you don't have to keep paying a fee to play it you logic is flawd alot of ppl try to say it have a fee but most forget that other mmos that have the fee you still have to pay the 50 bucks to buy the game like every game has but still have to keep paying for a fee to play but guild wars you don't
Zamochit
Zamochit
Furnace Stoker
#8
Area Net are running a business, and a business needs to make money.

I for one appreciate the speed that they are bringing out the new chapters and the quality of the various improvements that have been made. The amount of time and effort that has gone into these games is unquestionable, as is the areanet ideal of 'no monthly fee'. You are by no means obligated to purchase the new chapters. leave your account for six months come back, try to log in...and oh look you can...what a surprise.

People buy the new chapters because they look forward to them, and the six months between them is imo the perfect balance between getting the most out of one chapter, and looking forward to the next. The sales over this period (I would imagine) enable Anet to fund the forthcoming chapter.

Roll on chapter four.
Arduin
Arduin
Grotto Attendant
#9
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tetris L
You're beating a dead horse, and this thread will likely be locked very soon.
Better sooner then later. There are enough of this treads already. Not to mention the whole WoW vs GW debacle
Oh a GW forum
Oh a GW forum
Banned
#10
No one makes you buy new chapters.

End of discussion.
Tetris L
Tetris L
Jungle Guide
#11
Quote:
Originally Posted by Oh a GW forum
End of discussion.
You wish.
Lag Hell
Lag Hell
Desert Nomad
#12
so to ur opinion ANY game which requires a CD that needs to be paid for has a monthly fee...
nightfall and factions can be taken as 2 new games, there is no need to buy them, im sure anet has put just as much effort into these 2 as prophacies
Shadowfox1125
Shadowfox1125
Forge Runner
#13
When WoW came out, it was at $49.99. When Prophecies, it was also $49.99. After the first 30 days of WoW, you had to pay $30 for 60 days. With Prophecies, you would have paid nothing extra.

Your logic is flawed. I go purchase a game at $60 and play it for 60 days. Is that a monthly fee of a dollar a day? No. I can play the game for another 60 days. Now I've paid half a dollar a day?
arcanemacabre
arcanemacabre
Grotto Attendant
#14
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lag Hell
so to ur opinion ANY game which requires a CD that needs to be paid for has a monthly fee...
nightfall and factions can be taken as 2 new games, there is no need to buy them, im sure anet has put just as much effort into these 2 as prophacies
That's exactly what he's saying. So take any game, and if it has a sequel, that game's monthly fee = First Game / # of months between First Game and sequel.

Sure.

I guess you could say that...
aron searle
aron searle
Jungle Guide
#15
I go to burger king 6 times a year, spending approxamatly 15 pounds each time, which means buger king has a monthly fee of 6x15 / 12 = £7.50 a month.

Also i bought the matrix trilogy on dvd each time it came out, meaning it had a yearly suscription fee of £14.99.

If guild wars has a monthly fee, so does everything else.
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danyjr
Ascalonian Squire
#16
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lag Hell
nightfall and factions can be taken as 2 new games, there is no need to buy them, im sure anet has put just as much effort into these 2 as prophacies
No they haven't. Speaking of how diverse and big Tyria was comparing to Cantha and Elona, you'll have to admit that more effort was put into Prophecies than any other chapter.
Arduin
Arduin
Grotto Attendant
#17
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Originally Posted by danyjr
No they haven't. Speaking of how diverse and big Tyria was comparing to Cantha and Elona, you'll have to admit that more effort was put into Prophecies than any other chapter.
Well, Anet had to develop the game mechanics from scratch for Prophecies. For Factions and Nightfall they were able to use the same engine, they only needed to improve it and add some new features. So yeah, they put more effort in Tyria than in Cantha and Elona.

But if your going to compare the diversity of Tyria to Cantha and Elona as you are saying, are you then comparing the size of the world map, the amount of new professions, or the diversity of areas, or something altogether different? Because it would be near impossible to add 6 new professions to each chapter (in terms of skill balance) and an increase in diversity of areas just gives you yet another desert/jungle/mountain area. I mean, how diverse can they make the game world?

The thing is, Anet cant make another chapter like Prophecies, because it all has to be linked to the earlier released chapters. This limits their possibilities. Moreover, Prophecies gave us basically Tyria + Core of the GuildWars Universe, Factions gave us Cantha, Nightfall gave us Elona. So yeah, Factions and Nightfall aren't that big or diverse, but I think this is justified.
Sli Ander
Sli Ander
Wilds Pathfinder
#18
So..can anyone tell me the monthly fee on my old Zelda games? I'm sure it must be pretty low by now...

/edit This whole thread is just flamebait and will probably end up a circular argument if not closed soon...
/edit number two: You also forgot to add in the monthly cost of the internet, electricity, the initial cost of your computer, the mousepad, desk its sitting on(if applicable), the surge protector,..The list goes on and on!
RTSFirebat
RTSFirebat
The Humanoid Typhoon
#19
This thread is really going no where.

Also Guildwars is a Competitive/Cooperative Online Role-Playing Game (CORPG), not a MMORPG... why do people not get that?
bigwig
bigwig
Krytan Explorer
#20
I'm sure someone has beaten me to the punch, but you can still play prophecies if you don't buy an expansion, therefore no subscription fee.

But thanks for pointing this out to us all sherlock.