I wanted to bring my Faction chars over to Nightfall as fast as possible but the one thing that slowed that process is the quest forcing us to fight level 28 foes before shipping to Elona. This is annoying, I think the quest set-up they had for trasferring between Cantha and Tyria was better; where we fought the quests after mapping to the continent you want to be on, not before you entered. This way, you don't have to complete the quest at that moment if you don't want to and you're still in the continent you wanted to get in.
They make us fight a quest before entering the continent as if our intentions are to accomplish a quest, when really we just want to get to the continent already and play the new campaign. Am I the only one that feels this way? Nightfalls is freaking awesome and I would like to bring all my chars there without spending pointless time for a quest that just brings to Elona.
Annoyed with quest set-up to cross over to Elona
J snukka
Sekkira
Trying with an Assassin? YOU SUCK AS AN ASSASSIN YOU FREAKEN NOOB!
But seriously, Henchies went braindead when I tried to bring my Sin across. I had no trouble with any other classes taking on these monsters yet with my mesmer, the henchmen seem to want to willingly die.
But seriously, Henchies went braindead when I tried to bring my Sin across. I had no trouble with any other classes taking on these monsters yet with my mesmer, the henchmen seem to want to willingly die.
RTSFirebat
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There is nothing wrong with the quest, it takes hardly any time at all to do. All you need to do is beat up a small group of mobs, which takes hardly anytime at all.
So basically your annoyed at having to do a bit of work to get somewhere?
There is nothing wrong with the quest, it takes hardly any time at all to do. All you need to do is beat up a small group of mobs, which takes hardly anytime at all.
So basically your annoyed at having to do a bit of work to get somewhere?
The Pointless
<---L15 E/Mo (Me)
L20 W/Mo (Guildy)
L10 Henchies
Problem solved getting out of Kryta, maybe it'll be the same in Cantha
L20 W/Mo (Guildy)
L10 Henchies
Problem solved getting out of Kryta, maybe it'll be the same in Cantha
Yanman.be
I solo'd the Tyria-> Elona quest with my sin....
Oh a GW forum
Lol you can't handle groups of 3-4 with no healers? have fun in nightfall...
Shadowfox1125
It's easier from Cantha than from Tyria. At Kaineng at least you get 8 person parties and level 20 henchies. I don't understand why you'd complain about this quest; it doesn't take very long in the first place... Just henchie it..
J snukka
I brought my Echo/Renewal ele first attempt btw and it's not about dieing during the attempts to crossing over. It's just an unnecessary way of allowing us to trasfer our characters.
Warmaster Patton
Whats wrong with doing a quest??? Jeez, you have to a quest to almost anywhere in the game, what's different here?
The Pointless
Canthans had it easy reaching Tyria... Tyrians had to fight a single L20 Afflicted to get to Kaineng. I had no probs with that and I don't have much of a problem getting to Elona.
J snukka
difference is that I prefer taking care of the quest when I'm on the new continent and when I feel ready to finish the quest.
darrylhaines
Why not take your char's and do the Tyrian quest, get the necro hero, then come back and do the canthian quest for the assasin hero.
fenix
I personally hate this quest, because when I did it, I grabbed the henchies from LA and went right in. I attacked the first portal, and not only did another Grasp aggro, but a Scythe (fire damage one) did too. Naturally Alesia at level 10 couldn't handle it, and I lost survivor on my ele. So I'm pretty annoyed at the fact that despite it being a few monsters, the monsters you fight are 14 levels and 18 levels above the henchmen, which shouldn't be the case.
Kais Unduli
Are we allowed to be annoyed at the people who are annoyed? If so, then I am.
For chrissakes, it's a 10-minute quest tops from Kaineng Center, and it took me maybe 4 minutes from Lion's Arch. You guys do actually read some of the dialogue from npcs when given quests, right? The quests are part of the storyline.
For chrissakes, it's a 10-minute quest tops from Kaineng Center, and it took me maybe 4 minutes from Lion's Arch. You guys do actually read some of the dialogue from npcs when given quests, right? The quests are part of the storyline.
XvArchonvX
Meh, I didn't think it was that bad myself. If you seriously encounter problems with it and have Prophecies, do the quest from LA since it's almost a joke at how easy it is from there.
led-zep
my mesmer solo'd the crossover quest when i got the witches hat thanks to a friend with a buddy key. really shouldnt have trouble with a group of hench regardless of their level.
Avarre
I soloed it on my mesmer :S
You don't ever have to fight more than one mob at a time (LA version). Good aggro practice perhaps?
You don't ever have to fight more than one mob at a time (LA version). Good aggro practice perhaps?
Matix411
I had no problem getting to any of the campaigns from Nightfall or vice-versa, with any of my characters.
This has nothing to do with getting to Elona, I have died 3 times since I started my Nightfall warrior. Thus I don't think there is any problem with any quest setup.
Getting my other characters to Elona took, as others have said, around 10 minutes.
One healer and one prot hero, +2 healer henchies, an interrupter and two damage dealers = extremely easy if not incredibly fun to get through the game. I haven't been in a real group since Nightfall was released, every mission thus far mastered with the same henchies. If you don't have the ability to use for monks, 3 suffices just fine if you give your heroes the proper builds. Heck, you could even have one be a smiter and rely on two healers.
But getting over to Elona? You shouldn't need all that healing power.
Just be careful and don't put yourself in a stupid position to get yourself killed.
This has nothing to do with getting to Elona, I have died 3 times since I started my Nightfall warrior. Thus I don't think there is any problem with any quest setup.
Getting my other characters to Elona took, as others have said, around 10 minutes.
One healer and one prot hero, +2 healer henchies, an interrupter and two damage dealers = extremely easy if not incredibly fun to get through the game. I haven't been in a real group since Nightfall was released, every mission thus far mastered with the same henchies. If you don't have the ability to use for monks, 3 suffices just fine if you give your heroes the proper builds. Heck, you could even have one be a smiter and rely on two healers.
But getting over to Elona? You shouldn't need all that healing power.
Just be careful and don't put yourself in a stupid position to get yourself killed.
SilentAssassin
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There is nothing wrong with the quest, it takes hardly any time at all to do. All you need to do is beat up a small group of mobs, which takes hardly anytime at all.
So basically your annoyed at having to do a bit of work to get somewhere? /agree
geez it takes like 5 mins with henchies...
There is nothing wrong with the quest, it takes hardly any time at all to do. All you need to do is beat up a small group of mobs, which takes hardly anytime at all.
So basically your annoyed at having to do a bit of work to get somewhere? /agree
geez it takes like 5 mins with henchies...
Memnon
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FalconDance
I haven't come from Cantha yet (simply took my Fations girl to LA and then to Elona), but I did manage to get a lvl 9 mesmer from LA to Kamadan with henches -- NO death, no trouble. The quest isn't all that difficult, really.
Of course, my lvl 18 monk nearly got his arse handed to him by the Scythes-of-Nastiness since they aggro'd onto him and would not go away. But he still made it.
Of course, my lvl 18 monk nearly got his arse handed to him by the Scythes-of-Nastiness since they aggro'd onto him and would not go away. But he still made it.
Deleet
Some times, people cry about the smallest things..
I'd cry if we had to do the quest everytime we traval to elona...
I'd cry if we had to do the quest everytime we traval to elona...
Elruid
I totally had it with these two quests. First time it's kinda okay. But then go do it with all your chars. Some will of course be snide and say: but why do you have that many chars, learn to choose.
The other problem are the henchies, lol, lvl 12 in LA, at least the enemies come one at a time. Oh, why didn't I get a group, guess I tried, but no one was interested.
It only takes five minutes: yeah, it only takes about five minutes, if you succeed. The braindead henchies screw it up half the time in Kaineng especially. And Sister Tai, I want to punch you in the face, you ***t.
So yes, you all who did it multiple times, with henchies, with an empty skillbar, with no armor, dancing, alt-tabing and watching out of your window, are awesome. Now get over yourself.
I seriously hate that I have to somehow prove myself just to get to Elona.
Of course, I'm one of those people who never want to work for anything, are lazy, useless, waste to society, should be destroyed, at least sterilized to prevent future harm to the gene pool, naturally.
But can't there just be a way to skip these?
Oh, and I suck. Bad.
The other problem are the henchies, lol, lvl 12 in LA, at least the enemies come one at a time. Oh, why didn't I get a group, guess I tried, but no one was interested.
It only takes five minutes: yeah, it only takes about five minutes, if you succeed. The braindead henchies screw it up half the time in Kaineng especially. And Sister Tai, I want to punch you in the face, you ***t.
So yes, you all who did it multiple times, with henchies, with an empty skillbar, with no armor, dancing, alt-tabing and watching out of your window, are awesome. Now get over yourself.
I seriously hate that I have to somehow prove myself just to get to Elona.
Of course, I'm one of those people who never want to work for anything, are lazy, useless, waste to society, should be destroyed, at least sterilized to prevent future harm to the gene pool, naturally.
But can't there just be a way to skip these?
Oh, and I suck. Bad.
Mournblade
If your character cant make it to Elona because the entry quest was too hard, then you aren't the heros that they were looking for. =)
Your self-deprecation is refreshing but seriously - the quests aren't any harder than the rest of the game, they just SEEM like they are because of the level disparity. When you learn to think creatively then things get much easier. When I brought my warrior over from Lions Arch, I didn't even try to fight at first - I snuck around and killed the gates while avoiding the mobs. I got three that way, and only had to fight one grasp at the end. With some kiting skills I bet you wouldn't have to fight at all.
I'm sorry a couple of you are having a tough time with one or two of your characters but seriously - its not that hard compared to most things you do in the game.
Your self-deprecation is refreshing but seriously - the quests aren't any harder than the rest of the game, they just SEEM like they are because of the level disparity. When you learn to think creatively then things get much easier. When I brought my warrior over from Lions Arch, I didn't even try to fight at first - I snuck around and killed the gates while avoiding the mobs. I got three that way, and only had to fight one grasp at the end. With some kiting skills I bet you wouldn't have to fight at all.
I'm sorry a couple of you are having a tough time with one or two of your characters but seriously - its not that hard compared to most things you do in the game.
FalconDance
Hmmm, I never thought about trying to do it nekkid and dancing under the full moon whilst using the full range of emotes.........
Maybe next time.
Maybe next time
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Aerials
if this quest is that much of a problem to you then it's going to be a loooooong time before you finish nightfall....>.>
Next thing you know people will be crying to skip past Jennur's Horde.."Respawning mobs? OMG why do we have to do this...the whole...playing a game with some sort of difficulty thing"
Next thing you know people will be crying to skip past Jennur's Horde.."Respawning mobs? OMG why do we have to do this...the whole...playing a game with some sort of difficulty thing"
Kestrel Fyr
As Mournblade has already pointed out, the quest isnt about killing lvl 28 monsters its about standing under the rifts till it dissapears, in LA most of the rifts can be disapated with out any fighting at all. for those with multible characters I might suggest doing the quest with all your characters one after the other then you are done with it and need not worry about it any more. The key to the quest is simply watch and wait when the rift has no one near run in disapate it move on.
english storm
i gave up with trying from cathan to elona, i just took everyone to lions arch and crossed over from there. The quest from there is simple, you can get away with just killing 2 creatures for the whole quest!
=HT=Ingram
The quest From Lions arch is SOo friggen easy... you can do it solo...
the one from Kaineng is a little harder for 2 reasons. 1 you have the ability to have a party of 8 not 6
and two you have lev 20 henchmen available, PLUS a assassin hero if you did the other Rather easy quest first...
The necro Hero from Lions Arch is a little harder going SOLO with only 5 lev 10 Henchies... I normally go and level up my heroes first in Elona then come back for my necro Hero. Or Even better get some friends together to grab him from Lions arch...
However its not TOO hard to get to Elona by any means. If I can do it with a pathetic Ranger and henchies, ANYONE can do it... Hell the Lions arch one I didnt even need to fight once. I just walked around and avoided agro... and degened the portals...
the one from Kaineng is a little harder for 2 reasons. 1 you have the ability to have a party of 8 not 6
and two you have lev 20 henchmen available, PLUS a assassin hero if you did the other Rather easy quest first...
The necro Hero from Lions Arch is a little harder going SOLO with only 5 lev 10 Henchies... I normally go and level up my heroes first in Elona then come back for my necro Hero. Or Even better get some friends together to grab him from Lions arch...
However its not TOO hard to get to Elona by any means. If I can do it with a pathetic Ranger and henchies, ANYONE can do it... Hell the Lions arch one I didnt even need to fight once. I just walked around and avoided agro... and degened the portals...
SanchO987
The purpose of this quest is to practically remove the demons from LA and then Komir takes you over to Elona because you have proven to her that you can be a sunspear, if you cant even do that, they dont want you, you sabotage their plans. BTW I solo'd the mission with my ranger (and my trusty cat) and it wasnt all too hard, just smart aggroing and knowing how to KITE!
Shaq_gw
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It's easier from Cantha than from Tyria. At Kaineng at least you get 8 person parties and level 20 henchies. I don't understand why you'd complain about this quest; it doesn't take very long in the first place... Just henchie it..
I think tyria is easier because you only have to kill max 2-3 lvl 24-28 monsters who are alone.
Ninna
I agree - LA is easier than Cantha
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As Mournblade has already pointed out, the quest isnt about killing lvl 28 monsters its about standing under the rifts till it dissapears, in LA most of the rifts can be disapated without any fighting at all.
for those with multiple characters I might suggest doing the quest with all your characters one after the other then you are done with it and need not worry about it any more.
The key to the quest is simply watch and wait when the rift has no one near, run in disapate it, move on. good advice - and exactly what I did with my 10 chars
took a few hours but I'm done with it !
for those with multiple characters I might suggest doing the quest with all your characters one after the other then you are done with it and need not worry about it any more.
The key to the quest is simply watch and wait when the rift has no one near, run in disapate it, move on. good advice - and exactly what I did with my 10 chars
took a few hours but I'm done with it !