Bring back "who left the guild" on the status tab

teenchi

teenchi

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

PST

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

W/Mo

I hope this is isn't a duplicate post, my appologies in advance. Working on a really laggy Mac at work and search was hanging.

Quote:
The guild status tab no longer displays when members leave the guild.
Myself as a guild leader and my officers are a bit upset to see that this feature no longer works and would like to see it come back. I try to track down members that have left and ask them why so I can make improvements to my guild if something was bothering them. I never used it to harass them for leaving but information as ways I can be a better guild leader. What is the reason behind taking this away? Is it worse to see who left over who got kicked? I don't think so.

Clobimon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

I hadn't seen that this was taken back out. I did however notice that my guild's roster dropped one and it didn't list who it was, so I suspected. I was extremely happy when they added that feature and equally displeased that it's now gone. My guild is always between 90 and 100 members so it takes time to figure out who left without it being listed. Sometimes we never figure it out. Without the feature it's like trying to think of the name of a guy in a movie and it's right on the tip of your tongue (before internet search engines).

tomcruisejr

tomcruisejr

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

bring it back. it's good against people who treat your guild like a bathroom.

Sofonisba

Sofonisba

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Tucson, AZ

The Black Hand Gang [BHG] and The Black Helm Gang [BHeG]

/signed

MegaMouse

MegaMouse

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

south mississippi

Warriors Of Melos WOM

E/N

As a guild leader myself it is always good to know who left. That way I could contact them to find out why and if they plan on returning in the near future. Please bring it back.

/SIGNED

Mega Mouse

Three_Plat_Per_Fame

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

Mo/

/not signed
why would you wanna know if i left your guild?
to give flame message on me? to ask why i left?
its like privacy. or i think it is privacy.

i dont want it back.

InvictusBlood

InvictusBlood

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

Shadow of the Serpent

N/Mo

/signed

As a guild leader I loved the fact that they added this feature and was very upset to see it go. Like many I only noticed it when my roster decreased by one, but I couldn't find who left.
I run a guild website that is membership based so only members can see various posts and activites. I would use the status to see who left and then remove them from my site, but now it is almost imposible to do as my membership usually hovers around 90 or so members.

PLEASE bring it back.

GloryFox

GloryFox

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Good ol' USA, where everyone else wants to be

Now Plays World of Warcraft on Whisperwind

As a Guild leader I agree...

/signed

Phoenix Arrows

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

With many other ugly people

We Are All Pretty [ugly]

R/

/signed

Nice to know who left your guild, like a close friend or something you hated.

Thallandor

Thallandor

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2005

Singapore

Seers of Serpents [SoS]

R/

/unsigned.

There are reasons why it was introduced and later removed to prevent certain unneccessary problems/abuse.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

/signed

>.<

I need that info for my guild's database.

Halmyr

Halmyr

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Canada! eh!

~none~

W/Me

/signed

theres always the ignore list if you dont want to talk to leader or any one about the guild you were just in.

Kool Pajamas

Kool Pajamas

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Maryland

Mage Elites [MAGE]

/signed

I didnt see that update either but I noticed that it didnt show when one of our members left and suspected thats what happened. I cant remember everyones "main" name so even if i look down the list and look to see who is still here its still sometimes hard to tell exactly who it was that left.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

/signed

The people who were whinning about it were people in guilds that couldn't keep members. There is no reason for this feature NOT to be in the guild. It just makes managing larger guilds easier.

Linksys

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

/signed

Some leaders will flame, and some won't. I wouldn't want people to sneak out of guilds and leave people hanging.

madman420

madman420

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

/signed

This was a great update...while it lasted. Bring it back.

Syndren

Syndren

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

United Union [GWU]

/sign

Even though the privacy of the member is destroyed it greatly helps the mangement of the guild. Maybe make it leader and only leader appointed officer viewable.

sLiceR

sLiceR

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Milan, Italy

[可愛い]

/signed

ellandra

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

/signed

As an officer i found this infinitely useful.

xyke

xyke

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

12121

And then and then and [Then]

Mo/E

/signed!

Tyggen

Tyggen

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Three_Plat_Per_Fame
/not signed
why would you wanna know if i left your guild?
to give flame message on me? to ask why i left?
its like privacy. or i think it is privacy.

i dont want it back.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Thallandor
There are reasons why it was introduced and later removed to prevent certain unneccessary problems/abuse.
I understand both your reasons, but to be honest people who hop guilds or members that leave without telling anyone can be annoying. Of course, there may be some flaming from it, but if it bothers you report them, then put them on ignore.

/signed unless someone can show me this feature was used more for flaming then for keeping the guild roster updated.

Linksys

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

If it's brought back, it's simply something you'll have to be aware of when joining a guild in the event that you leave it.

Carth`

Carth`

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

/signed

But I would prefer if only officers could see it. Someone mentioned it could be bad for morale, and I think they might be right.

TheYellowKid

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

Mina Sucks [Blz]

/signed

was wondering what happened, i find it invaluable for information purposes and means i know if new members have joined and left meaning i need to work harder ont he guild

Linksys

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth`
/signed

But I would prefer if only officers could see it. Someone mentioned it could be bad for morale, and I think they might be right.
That's a very good point. I'd like it so only the leader or the leader and officers can see the Status tab. I'd also like to see a way to keep track of who transfers faction points to the guild.

Sophitia Leafblade

Sophitia Leafblade

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Dragon Slayer Guild [DSG]

R/

/signed

Dark Suoon

Dark Suoon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Organization of Dawn [DAWN]

W/D

i sign this because it was a interesting way to see who left. If its somebody who left in a day a guild hopper or if they left after a while u can ask why

Blackhawk

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Carth`
/signed

But I would prefer if only officers could see it. Someone mentioned it could be bad for morale, and I think they might be right.
/signed provided that's part of the deal as I'm not being funny but sometimes theres a valid reason why someone leaves and some Guild Leaders are sometimes that reason

It would be bad for morale if you joined a guild and saw 3/4 of the members all leave on the same day due to the leader and officers being a complete bunch of prats - not mentioning any names or Guilds here but you know who you are

Cunning

Cunning

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

Vabbi, Elona

Ex Talionis [Law]

Me/

/signature

Sol_Vie

Sol_Vie

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Boston, MA

Blood Of Orr [BoO]

/signed

Even though I usually notice anyway, 'cause we have such a small guild.

Clobimon

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

Typically the ones that leave my guild are 'short-timers' of a week or less. I always figure they are guild hoppers that are just looking for the right fit. I and the officers usually don't even think of contacting them. Joining our guild doesn't constitute some binding contract. It's the long term members that we would pm. Luckily we just had one while it listed them. He gave a reasonable answer, did his own thing for a month without us bothering him and has since returned. Anyway, when the member roster one day says 94 and the next it says 91, we'd like to KNOW who left and can at least ask the remaining members if they know why "XX Y Z" left. The way it is now we ask "does anyone know who left the guild" and it's always answered with "no clue."

bigwig

bigwig

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Nova Scotia

#Dismantle

The benefits far outweigh any problems.

Mammoth

Mammoth

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Dec 2005

The Yakslappers

Mo/Me

One of the problems this feature introduced was the potential to cause a chain reaction of members leaving (one leaves, the some more see it and feel they should go etc.), I remember reading about how after it was added, some people had many members just up and leave simply because of the message being there. There may be more depth to it I'm not aware of though... This is mostly speculation on an old topic..

Perhaps only allowing the message to be viewable by the Leader and Officers would work, or just make it an option for the guild leader to enable/disable..

PanGammon

PanGammon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Underworld

Leader of Grenth Gaming Inc [GG]

Mo/Me

/signed

Its useful but only viewable by leader and officers is a good idea.......

Sheriff

Sheriff

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2006

Heroic Order of Tyria

R/W

/signed

Shanaeri Rynale

Shanaeri Rynale

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

DVDF(Forums)

Me/N

/Signed.
It makes the admin of guilds, websites and forums a whole lot easier. If leavers get harrased then report the harasser, simple.

In the mean time forum admins scratch their heads everytime the roster goes down in number..

Sooty

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2005

Australia

Giggity Giggity Goo

/signed. It's a very useful feature to have for running a guild.

Was this change intentional though? It's not in the updates page.

The Pointless

The Pointless

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Stuck in the UK

Rage International [RAGE]

W/Me

/signed and /stamped (just of the hell of it)

I hate frantically trying to work out who left. In fact I hate the fact that they leave without warning!

tom de healer

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Lowland Lions

Mo/W

/signed

broodijzer

broodijzer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

void

Mo/

/signed, only for officers and leader though, to prevent bad morale.