ok so who wants to Sintank?.....
Saider maul
In factions the sin for me was a long awaited melee class that was poorly implimented. I expected tons of evade from the preview that we just never got and the sin became the first Melee squishie.
Well with Nightfall that has changed. Sin have their place in a battle but once they are targeted they must get out fast or listen to the screaming monk over their dead corpse. Its the constant attempt at tanking that made the sin so labeled.
With nightfall the Sin now has the ability to become a frontline dmg dealer.
Hope you enjoy...
A/D
10+2 dagger
11+3+1 critical strike
10 earth prayer
Vital Boon
Signet of Pious light
Conviction
Golden lotus strike or res sig
Unsuspecting strike
Wild strike
Critical strike
Mobious strike { E }
effectivly you have 109AL while attacking. and a chain that is near endless.
again many pvpers will hate to see this build ran as many will feel it defies what a sin should be but you will have high dps, good Emanagment, and you will be mouch more durable then assassins were before when they attempted to tank.
enjoy.
Well with Nightfall that has changed. Sin have their place in a battle but once they are targeted they must get out fast or listen to the screaming monk over their dead corpse. Its the constant attempt at tanking that made the sin so labeled.
With nightfall the Sin now has the ability to become a frontline dmg dealer.
Hope you enjoy...
A/D
10+2 dagger
11+3+1 critical strike
10 earth prayer
Vital Boon
Signet of Pious light
Conviction
Golden lotus strike or res sig
Unsuspecting strike
Wild strike
Critical strike
Mobious strike { E }
effectivly you have 109AL while attacking. and a chain that is near endless.
again many pvpers will hate to see this build ran as many will feel it defies what a sin should be but you will have high dps, good Emanagment, and you will be mouch more durable then assassins were before when they attempted to tank.
enjoy.
AuraofMana
Good build, but Assassins were never meant to be tanks, so your statement of "squisie tanks" was inaccurate.
Saider maul
i stated that a targeted sin in factions is a heavily damaged sin. with nightfall A/D has the ability to play as a tank making it easier on the monks.
A ranger was never ment to be a warrior but you see them every day. What should be and what is or can be are 2 different thing.
I never cared for the way an assassin was " supposed " to play. I prefered to play a tactical caster takedown.
A ranger was never ment to be a warrior but you see them every day. What should be and what is or can be are 2 different thing.
I never cared for the way an assassin was " supposed " to play. I prefered to play a tactical caster takedown.
Desires
I just run Conviction and mystic regeneration and with a protect monk you can do whatever as while attacking your armor gets fairly high and your protect monk will give you insane regain thanks to mystic.
AuraofMana
No, you were saying Assassin like its a broken melee class when it is one of the best class in the game.
Rangers actually were meant for tanking. What do you think all those Ranger defenses are for?
But yes, you are right, you should always look beyond the potential of a class to find new builds that can do stuff the class previously couldn't do before. Sorry if I sounded like I was bashing you, I really wasn't XD
Rangers actually were meant for tanking. What do you think all those Ranger defenses are for?
But yes, you are right, you should always look beyond the potential of a class to find new builds that can do stuff the class previously couldn't do before. Sorry if I sounded like I was bashing you, I really wasn't XD
kirch1jt
the Sin-tank will take you down, ye be warned
Skuld
Um, thumpers are/were better than W/X at their job, thats why they are run. How is an A/D better than a D/X, or even W/X?
AuraofMana
Have you seen the critical damage of scythes?
A/D owns.
A/D owns.
Saider maul
lol skuld ego and arrogence blind you once again.
I am saying A/D is better class combo then most other A/X combos for those who do not play them as anet wished them to be played.
I put this up so sins who wish to tank now can WITHOUT driving the monk up a wall, sideways and insane.
personally i prefered to take out casters and stay out of main agro.
I also play a monk and most assassins drove me nuts.
and yes rangers are better thumpers but their class was not ment to be that way. Expertise allowed it to become and stay that way.
Thus the dervish skill line now allows a sin to heal extensivly and raise its armor class high enough to lower the effect of spikes it takes. This in turn allows a assassin to " tank " which it couldn't do effectivly prior to nightfall.
I am not saying the assassin was a broken class but they did lack damage managment.
I am saying A/D is better class combo then most other A/X combos for those who do not play them as anet wished them to be played.
I put this up so sins who wish to tank now can WITHOUT driving the monk up a wall, sideways and insane.
personally i prefered to take out casters and stay out of main agro.
I also play a monk and most assassins drove me nuts.
and yes rangers are better thumpers but their class was not ment to be that way. Expertise allowed it to become and stay that way.
Thus the dervish skill line now allows a sin to heal extensivly and raise its armor class high enough to lower the effect of spikes it takes. This in turn allows a assassin to " tank " which it couldn't do effectivly prior to nightfall.
I am not saying the assassin was a broken class but they did lack damage managment.
Skuld
WTF has that got to do with ego or arrogance? I don't care either way, its just a thought...
Sticky
Ive been using something similar in PUGs the last few days:
Unsuspecting strike
Fox Fangs
Twisting Fangs
Aura of Displacement (Nobody laugh! Its saved me a lot of times!
)
Signet of Pious light
Vital Boon
Conviction
Res sig
15 Dagger Mastery
11 Critical Strikes
10 Earth Magic
I know its not the highest damage build out there but its got a great survival rate. Its pretty fun to use aswell, and at the end of the day, thats what we play the game for isnt it? Fun!
Unsuspecting strike
Fox Fangs
Twisting Fangs
Aura of Displacement (Nobody laugh! Its saved me a lot of times!

Signet of Pious light
Vital Boon
Conviction
Res sig
15 Dagger Mastery
11 Critical Strikes
10 Earth Magic
I know its not the highest damage build out there but its got a great survival rate. Its pretty fun to use aswell, and at the end of the day, thats what we play the game for isnt it? Fun!



Saider maul
yup. and lets just say i put this out there for my fellow monk. lol
Darkpower Alchemist
Assassins are, and have always been meant to be played like hit and run attackers.
Strong,swift melee killings are the assassin's bread and butter. If they can hang in the forefront for a bit longer,more power to them, but what do you think all those shadow skills are for?
Tanking or escaping?
Strong,swift melee killings are the assassin's bread and butter. If they can hang in the forefront for a bit longer,more power to them, but what do you think all those shadow skills are for?
Tanking or escaping?
Yanman.be
It's funny how you put the word "sintank" in a topic, and it immediately has 200+ views, more than the rest of the surrounding topics....wait..that's not funny, that's pathetic...
Saider maul
lol but it does stop the greaving of a monk.
like i said many do not play a sin right. this build should help the community By removing the negative side effect of a tanking assassin.
come on now. this build takes orb for 52dmg and a ViMway dervish has yet to hit this build for more then 72 dmg one a sandstorm spike. Plus the combo is a 6 second chain with decent spammable dmg output.
like i said many do not play a sin right. this build should help the community By removing the negative side effect of a tanking assassin.
come on now. this build takes orb for 52dmg and a ViMway dervish has yet to hit this build for more then 72 dmg one a sandstorm spike. Plus the combo is a 6 second chain with decent spammable dmg output.
Yanman.be
I think you mean grief, not greav(e)?
Ok build is good, but next time, advertise as a " critical dervish using daggers "
Ok build is good, but next time, advertise as a " critical dervish using daggers "

kirch1jt
na this thing can tank, its very self sufficient. High AL, self heal, ive seen this thing, its damn good
AuraofMana
Quote:
I am not saying the assassin was a broken class but they did lack damage managment.
No comment.
Yanman.be
I hope he means the damage you take....
Desires
Really with things like conviction "their on fire" shield of absorbtion ect can make any class a tank. add in damage reduction from lightbringer and gg.
LiamR
I suppose with this build you have 109 AL most of the time. But a warrior can easily get it higher, get into groups easier, deal more damage... see where I am going?
Sticky
Thats true LiamR but using this build type is still fun and at least isnt the same 2-3 builds that ive used over and over. The one ive been using was just something i threw together, and ive greatly enjoyed using it. As ive already said, games are about fun
see where im going?


mrsmiles
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Originally Posted by Yanman.be
I hope he means the damage you take....
i thought about what he said about that and after re-reading his statement im pretty sure he did mean the dmg a sin takes
Saider maul
yeah I ment damage managment as in... Sin being spiked hurt and burdened the monk.
lol if you think a warrior can deal more go right ahead. but either way a few tried it, many saw it and monks will enjoy its presense.
Game on.
lol if you think a warrior can deal more go right ahead. but either way a few tried it, many saw it and monks will enjoy its presense.
Game on.
Carth`
I thought most of the assassins still playing are the ones that have moved past thinking they have to tank, and realised what assassins are good at and what they aren't good at.
If this helps you get into groups, good luck to you. But I don't think I will be grouping with any assassins calling themselves a tank.
If this helps you get into groups, good luck to you. But I don't think I will be grouping with any assassins calling themselves a tank.

lapsus
Yeah there really is no point to tanking or trying to. With the massive sin buff a few weeks or so ago it became easier to plan great builds with different skills. The reasons sins get flak from other players is because of the tank mentality..... Just give up on the tanking and learn how the sin should be played. And I agree with Carth` there is almost no way Id let a sin calling himself a tank in my group.
Saider maul
lol like i said i do not tank so flame elsewhere. I prefer to be a caster gank away from main agro. I put this out there for those who insist on tanking with a sin can do so while keeping dmg output high and mitigating the dmg taken thru substancial self healing and armor buffing.
Please go try it out before you bash the build or concept. and lose the selective reading. I do not run as a tank. Many however do.
this closed minded mentality is a sign of poor personal character. Please learn to think outside the box.
Please go try it out before you bash the build or concept. and lose the selective reading. I do not run as a tank. Many however do.
this closed minded mentality is a sign of poor personal character. Please learn to think outside the box.
Yanman.be
I don't think any of us is bashing the build, but for "caster gankers", there are more efficient builds available, with more damage output, and are as hard to kill as you are.
Saider maul
sigh...... close thread. last time. i dont run this regular I run an A/W or A/E for most part, i just posted it because as a monk i am tired for sins tanking and being miserable at it.
pick your ears and give your ass a break. You people focus in and selectivly read what ya want to see.
its for those who chose to run an assassin like a tank. for the love of god.
pick your ears and give your ass a break. You people focus in and selectivly read what ya want to see.
its for those who chose to run an assassin like a tank. for the love of god.
Yanman.be
And we hope those who chose to run an assassin like a tank will be pretty scarce...
kirch1jt
just go try it b4 you start saying whats better, i havent seen a match to this yet (im not saying its invincible, but i was "wowed" by it). Sure it has its counters, like all builds, but this build should be tested before people "bash" or suggest things that are superior.
He was just suggesting another way to play the profession, step away from cookie cutter play styles and think in another direction, this is a good build. If you try it and dont like it, fine. If you read the thread title and dont like it, that's rediculous. I agree, this thread should be closed.
He was just suggesting another way to play the profession, step away from cookie cutter play styles and think in another direction, this is a good build. If you try it and dont like it, fine. If you read the thread title and dont like it, that's rediculous. I agree, this thread should be closed.
Yanman.be
I didn't say the build was bad. I was saying his mentality of solving the problem was bad. He's looking for problems where there are none.
Senator Tom
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yanman.be
I didn't say the build was bad. I was saying his mentality of solving the problem was bad. He's looking for problems where there are none.
Then I'll say it, the build is bad.
kirch1jt
he wasnt trying to solve a problem he was just
Quote:
Originally Posted by kirch1jt
...suggesting another way to play the profession
Yanman.be
And that way is inferior.
Saider maul
many pve players are " inferior " I am just putting a build out there for those " inferior " players to use to be less " inferior " while still playing with an " inferior " mentality.
Lets call it an anti leeroy build because even leeroy Jenkins would run this fairly well.
If someone cant run this build as a stereotype assassin in pve Without burdening the monk, then they are one of jerry's kids.
Lets call it an anti leeroy build because even leeroy Jenkins would run this fairly well.
If someone cant run this build as a stereotype assassin in pve Without burdening the monk, then they are one of jerry's kids.
Yanman.be
Jerry's kids? Like the 3 friends and Jerry?
Anyway. Ok. But that still doesn't leave use from giving critique on the way you do it. If the people are dumb enough to leeroy with an assassin, they should uninstall GW. IMO.
Anyway. Ok. But that still doesn't leave use from giving critique on the way you do it. If the people are dumb enough to leeroy with an assassin, they should uninstall GW. IMO.
Saider maul
its your opinion but once again read. I do not run this A/D!!!!! I have said this at least 4 times in this thread.
I posted it for those who want to tank. If your trying to manipulate my words in order to iritate me.... it worked, but please be mature enough or at least be smart enough to listen to what i said.
If you wanna play games go else where. I am sure you all are old enough that in real life you do not act this way to an employer, a personal aquantance, or in a public interpersonal relationship, nor do you have the balls to do so.
to do so would warrent a misdminer arrest for disorderly conduct and/or dismissal from a job for herrassment.
Just because its a game do not act like a prick. You should have better morals than this.
I posted it for those who want to tank. If your trying to manipulate my words in order to iritate me.... it worked, but please be mature enough or at least be smart enough to listen to what i said.
If you wanna play games go else where. I am sure you all are old enough that in real life you do not act this way to an employer, a personal aquantance, or in a public interpersonal relationship, nor do you have the balls to do so.
to do so would warrent a misdminer arrest for disorderly conduct and/or dismissal from a job for herrassment.
Just because its a game do not act like a prick. You should have better morals than this.
Mekkakat
idk who is more annoying in this post, but there are so many bashing this build.. and yet.. have you tried it??? it's actually really good. i ran it in PvE with my sin and i didn't die a single time, did nice damage, had plenty of energy, and with a few tweaks, made it into a FUN build that was ORIGINAL to TRY for a while. No, you can't run it everywhere, but not many builds can be ran everywhere, and those bashing that say, "oh well my warrior can go anywhere blah blah blah he does more damage and this and that" you're full of crap cause i've only seen 2 tank builds that really do any reasonable damage ever and they're so easy to counter seeing as high dps means no heals, that a single mesmer or ele could kill them in seconds. i'm so tired of seeing the same 3-4 builds in TA/HA/GvG/Ab that it's going to drive me insane. I like originality, and more than that, i like when people play the game and enjoy it instead of trying to bring others down that suggest fun ideas to keep the game alive. Get a life bashers, run you wammos and dragon slashers all you want in noobsville RA if you want, but some are trying to come up with new ways and builds to make this game better. I run a R/A with dagger skills and a big ass Black Moa, and i do around 100dps and can heal myself np, but i guess i'm freaking crazy for trying something newer that not too many use right???? freaking bashers make build post useless cause you're just judgemental without testing, and even worse, you're too naive to realize that this might be how someone else enjoys the game. Instead of being constructive, you just rain on others parades. this isn't to defend just this post, but all post for narrowminded staple-build conformist bashers. play on.
Yanman.be
I never said a bad thing about the build.