Armor Insignias: Make them retroactive, please

Priest Of Sin

Priest Of Sin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Sitting upon Kerrigan's Throne.

Live For The Swarm [ZERG]

Me/N

Insignias: they add an "inherent" bonus to armor, such as damage reduciton, +xxarmor while hexed, ect. They are currently Nightfall Campaign only, which is ok for now.

The Bonus: you can now select the skin you want, and buy the bonuses later! Less decision between looks vs. functionality.

The Problem: Many players have 15k armor (this includes Prophecies, Cantha, and Obsidian 15k) that has "bad" stats. Or in other words, stats that seemed good at the time, but are largely useless now (Bonelace armor, anyone?). Currently, we cannot apply insignias on older armor.

The Solution: a massive armor update that changes the "-3 damage reduction" or whatever to an Inscription. You can salvage them off, re-apply them, ect. It would most likely require Anet to update all armor names, such as "Obsidian Ascalon Leggings" to "XXX Obsidian Leggings of XXX". This would require lots of time on Anet's part, but perhaps they could take a break from the Weekend events and update the armor. It would make MANY fans happy who crafted the wrong armor.

EXAMPLE (XXX= inscription slot):

15k Tormentors Leggings of Superior Vigor- before update
Grotto XXX Leggings of Superior Vigor- after update

15k Bonelace Leggings Of Superior Vigor- before update
Citadel XXX Leggings of Superior Vigor- after update

15k Ascalon Obsidian Leggings of Superior Vigor- before update
Obsidian XXX Leggings Of Superior Vigor- after update

15k or 1.5k Gladiators Kurzick Leggings of Superior Vigor- before update
Vasburg XXX Kurzick Leggings Of Superior Vigor- after update

15k or 1.5k Gladiators Luxon Leggings of Superior Vigor- before update
Leviathan XXX Luxon Leggings of Superior Vigor- after update

1.5k Gladiators Leggings Of Superior Vigor- before update
Droknar's XXX Leggings Of Superior Vigor- after udpate

15k or 1.5k Canthan Gladiators Leggings Of Superior Vigor- before update
Kaineng XXX Leggings Of Superior Vigor- after update

ect, ect.

Thoughts?

lord_shar

lord_shar

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jul 2005

near SF, CA

/signed.

If ANET modifies pre-Nightfall armors and takes away stats, then these downgraded armors should receive the benefits of insignias so that they can be restored to their pre-Nightfall stats. Otherwise, these pre-Nightfall armors should never have been altered.

Clawdius_Talonious

Clawdius_Talonious

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Screwston, Tejas

KOS

N/Me

/signed

I'd like to see something like this.

Age

Age

Hall Hero

Join Date: Jul 2005

California Canada/BC

STG Administrator

Mo/

/Signed

Don't forget about the 1.5K Ascalon and Knights armour vs Elemental with insignias.

Irongate

Irongate

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

/Signed

The game has changed and the type of attributes I need on my FOW armour needs to change to suit changes in the game.

FOW armour is CORE to all games so why not at least allow FOW armour to take the new insignias?

Theus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

W/Mo

/signed.

I would enjoy getting 15k Gladiator Stoneskin Gauntlets.

Bokocasso

Bokocasso

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

R/A

/signed

This is what I was thinkig about today. Tbh the 15k gladiators female armor is prolly the best one ingame and having it insigniable would be tremendous thing.

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

/signed. Please, please, please, please, please make this so.

Blightfire

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

/signed

Sol_Vie

Sol_Vie

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Boston, MA

Blood Of Orr [BoO]

/signed

When it comes to armor and weapons, I personally think that it should be a free, full game change. But that's just me.

tomcruisejr

tomcruisejr

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

and if insignias can update factions and prophecies armor, my warrior can go pve, ab, ra, ta, ha, gvg on her 15k dragon armor set. we all have favourite armor designs right?

so /signed

Hyper Cutter

Hyper Cutter

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Knights of the White Eye [HINA]

At the very least, I'd like to see an NPC (located in Elona, of course) that converts old armor into the kind you can use insignias on...

Hodor

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Aug 2005

Federated Communist Uber Korps

yesyesyesyes

Racthoh

Racthoh

Did I hear 7 heroes?

Join Date: May 2005

Scars Meadows [SMS], Guild Leader (Not Recruiting)

I was so excited about insigina's, thinking my 15k ascalon helm could have +1 sword. And then, no, it can't.

/signed.

sakura75

sakura75

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Netherlands

Intensive Care Unit [ICU]

/signed
I would be mostly surprised when Anet doesnt do this

Zexion

Zexion

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Apr 2005

Warrior Nation [WN]

N/Me

If they don't do it now, count on them adding it when Ch4 is out. Remember material storage, stated to be GWF exclusive? With the release of GWN, they added it to all chapters.
It is a tricksy marketing ploy, to allow NF to sell better, and when NF is no longer their prime focus, they can release it to the rest of the game, and make up some other exclusive feature for Ch4.
But please, please, add this before that.
And while you're at it, inscriptions on weapons from all chapters would be a tremendous help as well. You don't need to make it retroactive, just count for all weapons found in the future. Pretty please.

/SIGNED

_Zexion

WasAGuest

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

/signed - I personally don't care for the armor in Nightfall. Most is pretty, well, ugly IMO. So I would like to be able to update the 15k sets I have.

I would imagine it would be no different than what Anet did with those Crimson Carapace Shields some time back. They altered the stats, and quickly added an NPC to replace it with the correct version. It was a quick fix.

Why not add an NPC to "strip" the mods from your armor set and allow the use of inscriptions? Similar effect as changing the shield. The "newly stripped" armor is really just a replacement armor set exchanged.

hubin_at

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2006

/signed

ducktape

ducktape

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

W/R

/signed

If the idea was to make changing armor stats easier, it certainly makes sense to have it work on all armors in all chapters. Plus, it makes every armor set useful in whichever situation you adapt it to, something that will make fashion-minded players very happy

Series

Banned

Join Date: Aug 2006

/signed

There is no reason not to sign, everyone's a winner!

ran93r

ran93r

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

UK

May Contain [Nuts]

W/Me

Every game adds new features as it matures but hardly any (read : none) retrofit existing content to be able to use these new features. We understand it's a time issue, especially with teams working on new content but there are those of us, longstanding players of all campaigns who would love to be able to bring our Proph characters in line with the existing content.

If it's explained to us, IE, no this will not happen because the time it would take = and the impact it would have on the game is... that's fine (IMO) but yeah, it would be pretty nice to allow the original content to be Inscribed, inscriptions are the new rock & roll.

tomcruisejr

tomcruisejr

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by ran93r
Every game adds new features as it matures but hardly any (read : none) retrofit existing content to be able to use these new features. We understand it's a time issue, especially with teams working on new content but there are those of us, longstanding players of all campaigns who would love to be able to bring our Proph characters in line with the existing content.

If it's explained to us, IE, no this will not happen because the time it would take = and the impact it would have on the game is... that's fine (IMO) but yeah, it would be pretty nice to rip through Nightfall, salvage all sorts of goodness and then slam them on my Proph chars via storage.

only if players with nightfall can customize their prophecies and factions armors, i can't see why a.net wont be implementing this asap.

Enciah

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

aNeT

W/

/signed

i've got nightfall
But i can't upgrade my cantha endgame armor (it was armor100, now it's 80+20vs elemental damage.... )

Theno

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Feb 2006

Last Way

W/Mo

/signed

I want to upgrade my 15k plate armor, full white dye
Everybody sign plz you are our only hope

freekedoutfish

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2006

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Priest Of Sin
Insignias: they add an "inherent" bonus to armor, such as damage reduciton, +xxarmor while hexed, ect. They are currently Nightfall Campaign only, which is ok for now.

The Bonus: you can now select the skin you want, and buy the bonuses later! Less decision between looks vs. functionality.

The Problem: Many players have 15k armor (this includes Prophecies, Cantha, and Obsidian 15k) that has "bad" stats. Or in other words, stats that seemed good at the time, but are largely useless now (Bonelace armor, anyone?). Currently, we cannot apply insignias on older armor.

The Solution: a massive armor update that changes the "-3 damage reduction" or whatever to an Inscription. You can salvage them off, re-apply them, ect. It would most likely require Anet to update all armor names, such as "Obsidian Ascalon Leggings" to "XXX Obsidian Leggings of XXX". This would require lots of time on Anet's part, but perhaps they could take a break from the Weekend events and update the armor. It would make MANY fans happy who crafted the wrong armor.

EXAMPLE (XXX= inscription slot):

15k Tormentors Leggings of Superior Vigor- before update
Grotto XXX Leggings of Superior Vigor- after update

15k Bonelace Leggings Of Superior Vigor- before update
Citadel XXX Leggings of Superior Vigor- after update

15k Ascalon Obsidian Leggings of Superior Vigor- before update
Obsidian XXX Leggings Of Superior Vigor- after update

15k or 1.5k Gladiators Kurzick Leggings of Superior Vigor- before update
Vasburg XXX Kurzick Leggings Of Superior Vigor- after update

15k or 1.5k Gladiators Luxon Leggings of Superior Vigor- before update
Leviathan XXX Luxon Leggings of Superior Vigor- after update

1.5k Gladiators Leggings Of Superior Vigor- before update
Droknar's XXX Leggings Of Superior Vigor- after udpate

15k or 1.5k Canthan Gladiators Leggings Of Superior Vigor- before update
Kaineng XXX Leggings Of Superior Vigor- after update

ect, ect.

Thoughts?
This will happen anyway ive no doubt.

They updated the tyrian 15k armor when they released factions, because factions armor had better stats.

They will update the armor so it can use all the insignias, id lay my life on it.

Alya

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

European servers

RTFM

/signed very much

*thinking of the future FoW armour for her ranger...*

The Muffen Man

The Muffen Man

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Sep 2005

Druery Lane

W/

/ signed for the love of god signed

red13xx

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2006

/signed but I think they should hold off till later when they get enough NF players..

Andrew_

Andrew_

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Africa

Knights of Fury UK [KOFU]

R/Me

/singed. This should have already been implemented with the release of NF (which is awesome I might add)

LifeInfusion

LifeInfusion

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: May 2005

in the midline

E/Mo

/signed
However, they should just change the armors to have insignias already on them. i.e. Gladiator's has the equivalent insignia, knights, etc

There ought to be an NPC of sorts to change it into insignias in Nightfall. Insignias only drop in Nightfall so the stats shouldn't be wiped for prophecies players.

Celestial Shaman

Celestial Shaman

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

The Blood Lotus Syndicate

Mo/

/signed

Bokocasso

Bokocasso

Banned

Join Date: Jul 2005

R/A

Since so many people are signing, I wish we can get any answer from Anet... Is this going to happen?

Tuor Son Of Huor

Tuor Son Of Huor

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Final Exodus [FX]

R/

/signed

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuor Son Of Huor View Post
I started buying my FoW before factions came out, and managed to buy the final piece about a month ago. I'm sure for most ppl out there, FoW is a symbol of pride for them - i know i've spent many sleepless nights and buckets of bloodied urine getting my Ranger FoW - and now I've got it, confident in the fact that this will NEVER be inadequate, no matter what comes after.

Now Nightfall is released, and the FoW armor - the ultimate end-game-multi-chapter armor - is not updated to take advantage of Insignias.

It is here that I will start my petition to update *all* FoW armor in existence to take advantage of the armor mechanics introduced in Nightfall. I feel its only fair for an armor that requires an enormous amount of energy and persistence to obtain.
This was my initial post in a poll i started on GWO. You would be suprised at how many ppl said /no. The main reason? "FoW is a commitment, deal with it"

Good to see intelligence prevails here.

Clone

Clone

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

/signed

Certianly sounds like a good idea to me.

Benedict

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Sep 2005

D/N

full ack!

/signed

Cybah

Cybah

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Europe

Guardians Of Eternal Sands [GoeS]

W/

/signed

Vahn Roi

Vahn Roi

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2006

[HiDE]

/signed though I don't see it happening.

floppinghog

floppinghog

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

pit of brimstone

Squad Six Six Six [ssss]

A/Me

/signed it should be coming soon...

proph was just armor and looks were static

cantha had the next step forward - looks could be any stats but still perm.

elona got it RIGHT - insignas for everything! and u can change em like runes!! but it ISNT retroactive, which is a total wash out.

please please please please please please!!

Gris Greene

Gris Greene

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Oct 2006

California, USA

R/N

I don't have Nightfall yet, but if buying Nightfall would give me the ability to put insignias on my Prophecies armor it would be another good reason to buy Nightfall.

/signed

vojnik

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie land

Australian Vengance Alliance

N/

/signed

I would love to not have to rebuy 15karmours again just cause I'd prefer other stats =p