Dye Remover -- What happened to it?

KittenZero

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Angels of Cruxis

Mo/E

Why has the dye remover disappeared? I was looking to re-dye one of my 15k sets black, but with my current dye it turns out too dark. The dye remover is gone so I can't change back to the original color. Now what?

Fungus Amongus

Fungus Amongus

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare] | [Rare] Alliance

Gray Dye

Quote:
Originally Posted by Guild Wars
Newly crafted armor now starts out gray. If you dye it to another color and then later want to restore it to its original appearance, just dye it gray. Vendors now sell gray dye instead of dye remover.

Sergio Leone

Sergio Leone

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Dallas, TX

The International Terrorists [USA]

W/Mo

I have actually heard Grey dye doesn't work the same? Maybe I heard incorrectly though.

Gizzen Garr

Gizzen Garr

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Troublesome Unit

W/Mo

it dosnt. on 1.5k platemail it made it gold. now it turns gray.

Cottage Pie

Cottage Pie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Birmingham, England

Taking Aegis

Mo/Me

they n3rf3d it!

Sergio Leone

Sergio Leone

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Dallas, TX

The International Terrorists [USA]

W/Mo

So is there a way to change the color of your armor?

Cottage Pie

Cottage Pie

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Nov 2005

Birmingham, England

Taking Aegis

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sergio Leone
So is there a way to change the color of your armor?

hold a powerful magnet close to your screen and your armour goes funky!


nah all they did was change the base colour of armour to grey, so now dye remover is grey dye...

Sergio Leone

Sergio Leone

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Dallas, TX

The International Terrorists [USA]

W/Mo

Oooh I see. So instead of removing it to that particular armors original color, everythings color is grey.

Kind of like having the starting color of a wall be green and painting it blue and have it be the exact blue. Then when it's blue you can either paint it red with a blue mixture or you can paint in green then red to have the exact red you want? Is that kind of what it is?

Santus Veritas

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2006

Canada - West Coast Side

Ronin Dragon Legion

A/

or its like painting a green wall - blue - then painting it green again...

why make it so complicated? hahaha

Toilet Monster

Toilet Monster

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Army of Snowmen [Xmas]

just mix your dye with a white or silver one if you want it lighter...

KittenZero

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Angels of Cruxis

Mo/E

Shoot, when I dyed my 15k armor grey, then black, but it looks the same as it did when I had the blue on it. You can't see any texture at all, it looks like just a cheap, solid color and it's hideous.

Odessa

Odessa

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2006

The Roberts

Mo/Me

Hello everyone, just want to say that its a pleasure being among fellow guild wars players. This being my first official post in this great site, makes it quite an honor.

Concerning dye remover it use to be a key ingredient in making white. I take it that the new grey dye that replaced the dye remover is to help promote the sale of the new white dye, which was implemented with the release of the Nightfall expansion. All is not lost however; since Ivory white can still be produced using a yellow and three silvers, quote me if I'm wrong. I also noticed that old dye in storage are not stackable with new dyes that are bought or found.

GODh

GODh

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

The Netherlands

BFTW and DLRR

Dye remover was 50g... white dye is 12k or so

I have a female ranger with 15k druids... i used dye remover on that set and imo that looks great (tried several dye mixes but i didnt like those). Now i am afraid (it happened several times before: undyed necro scares anyone?) that anet will ruin that armor by yet another "improvement" to the dye system. I dont have a clue how i can achieve the same effect without dye remover... and i dont gave the cash to experiment with white dyes. GG anet

jimmy_logic

jimmy_logic

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

R/

Dunno why they removed base colours... grey is so boring and a cop out... were they bored colouring the new armours or something?

Sergio Leone

Sergio Leone

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Dallas, TX

The International Terrorists [USA]

W/Mo

Hah! I like that jimmy.

"Ah this coloring will take too long, JUST MAKE IT ALL GREY!"

Lavindathar

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2005

Manchester, England

The Monstrous Fangs (fang)

N/Mo

They removed it to make it a "money grabber". Basically, all the money we now earn is spent on dye, as every set of armour needs dye now. Cos walking around in grey is cheap and looks nasty.

Where as it used to be, if you bought say early Tormentors, you didn't have to dye it you could just leave it green.

It takes money out of the economy.

Tachyon

Tachyon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Stoke, England

The Godless [GOD]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by KittenZero
Why has the dye remover disappeared? I was looking to re-dye one of my 15k sets black, but with my current dye it turns out too dark.
I'm sorry but that makes no sense at all! How can you complain that the variant of black you get is "too dark"? By it's very nature Black is the darkest colour possible, anything that's slightly lighter than pure black will be grey and ergo not black anymore.

Warpy

Warpy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Australia

Mo/Me

I'm finding the dye a little strange to use, I don't see it as a replacement though as its effect is so different.

Beatrix of Alexandria

Beatrix of Alexandria

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lavindathar
They removed it to make it a "money grabber". Basically, all the money we now earn is spent on dye, as every set of armour needs dye now. Cos walking around in grey is cheap and looks nasty.

Where as it used to be, if you bought say early Tormentors, you didn't have to dye it you could just leave it green.

It takes money out of the economy.
I'm actually seeing a lot of people walking around in gray armor now, especially in areas befor eyou get the chance to make 60-80AL armor. It seems to make sense not to waste dye on armor that's going to be replaced as soon as you get the chance to get better armor...at least it make sense to those of us without a lot of plat on characters.

derrtyboy69

derrtyboy69

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Clouds

Scars Meadows [SMS]

Mo/Me

Yeah, i dont give a shit about using the dye remover on my armors, but it was the key ingredient in several of my combos, and now is gone :.(

Maria The Princess

Maria The Princess

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Aequitas Deis

the change is actually the black dye itself too. It became waaaaay darker then before.

and i love it

jimmy_logic

jimmy_logic

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2005

R/

Actaully its too dark now... it can get rid of certain details from armors. I switched from black cause it looked like my armor was made from some random black cotton cloth and not what I used to craft it.

Torikae

Torikae

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

UK

Rt/

Please excuse me if I'm totally wrong (which is likely, because my dye-mixing experience is relatively minimal ^^'), but I thought that using dye-remover in a mix, it acted as the base colour of the armour?
So using blue+dye remover on, say, Elementalist armour would have been the same as using blue+purple?
If that's the case, then surely you could still reproduce old combos that used dye-remover simply by replacing it with the dye that was the armour's old base colour...?
I may not be making sense, and I know that some dyes behave a little differently now so perhaps making the exact same colour isn't possible anymore, but that's not as a result of the loss of dye-remover.

As for the OP:
If you were to have used Dye Remover on your 15k set, it wouldn't (as I understand it :S) have changed your armour back to it's previous colour, but would have restored it to its -base- colour. If that was what you were after, then you could easily replicate it with a set of dyes in that base colour from the merchant, instead of dye remover. Whilst they may not be as cheap as dye remover was, at least the base colours still come pretty cheap.

N E D M

N E D M

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2006

Officer's Club

Gameamp Guides [AMP]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Torikae
Please excuse me if I'm totally wrong (which is likely, because my dye-mixing experience is relatively minimal ^^'), but I thought that using dye-remover in a mix, it acted as the base colour of the armour?
So using blue+dye remover on, say, Elementalist armour would have been the same as using blue+purple?
If that's the case, then surely you could still reproduce old combos that used dye-remover simply by replacing it with the dye that was the armour's old base colour...?
I may not be making sense, and I know that some dyes behave a little differently now so perhaps making the exact same colour isn't possible anymore, but that's not as a result of the loss of dye-remover.

As for the OP:
If you were to have used Dye Remover on your 15k set, it wouldn't (as I understand it :S) have changed your armour back to it's previous colour, but would have restored it to its -base- colour. If that was what you were after, then you could easily replicate it with a set of dyes in that base colour from the merchant, instead of dye remover. Whilst they may not be as cheap as dye remover was, at least the base colours still come pretty cheap.
QFT

I was about to say basically this exact same thing.

Also , Old dye removers that were in inventories before the change have turned into grey dyes that look red.

KittenZero

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jan 2006

The Angels of Cruxis

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Azagoth
I'm sorry but that makes no sense at all! How can you complain that the variant of black you get is "too dark"? By it's very nature Black is the darkest colour possible, anything that's slightly lighter than pure black will be grey and ergo not black anymore.
I suppose I should refrase that; when I apply the black dye to my armor, it removes all the texture. It' just a solid color and looks cheap and ugly.

twighlightwordzhu

twighlightwordzhu

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2006

poopoo newyork

Twighlight Dragons

Mo/W

ive seen black armor ( looks delicious on dervishes) that looks spectacular dervish looks the best

besides if u look at the dyes on armor now it looks like the armor is dulled
the colors are dulled
if u remember fromt he past events for NIGHTFALL the colors on dervishes (heck all prof armor) armor were very bright almost neon but the new dyes are dulled and more rich not as toybox or cheep looking if u ask me i think the dyes look bttr especially black