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Gaile Gray

ArenaNet

Join Date: Feb 2005

03 Nov 2006 at 21:31 - 1

Here is information about the items and rewards for the current Wintersfest Tournament:

The rewards will have statistics that are identical to last year, and just like all previous candy cane items, they will not be moddable. Here are the stats of the items:

Axe: 10-10 slashing damage, no requirement.
Bow: 15-15 piercing damage, no requirement.
Dagger: 5-5 piercing damage, no requirement.
Hammer: 15-15 blunt damage, no requirement.
Rod: 10-10 cold damage, no requirement.
Scythe: 10-10 slashing damage, no requirement.
Shield: Armor level 10, no requirement.
Spear: 10-10 piercing damage, no requirement.
Staff: 10-10 cold damage, no requirement.
Sword: 10-10 slashing damage, no requirement.

Now, keep in mind that we have not announced distribution plans, but these items will be tradable. In addition, there will be an opportunity (announced in the next few weeks) for non-PVP players to have an opportunity to try and earn them as well.

So join the tournament, and hold tight for more info!

Lets Get to Healing

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

You want see?

True Gods of War [True]

Mo/W

03 Nov 2006 at 21:33 - 2

Awesome, you can trade for 'em. Thanks Gaile.

Kyosuke

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

The Tomb of Souls

DC

N/Me

03 Nov 2006 at 21:43 - 3

woot woot! I hope we get more CCs too! I need some damnit!

Can't wait for more info ont he event! Hopefully they make LA and Kamadan all purty for it!

Wasteland Squidget

I'm back?

Join Date: Sep 2005

Here.

Delta Formation [DF]

W/E

03 Nov 2006 at 21:50 - 4

Dang, I was really hoping these would be max and moddable. It would be really cool to actually wield one into battle, but I guess they'll be relegated to moments of randomness.

Spydergst1

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Chicago

W/R

03 Nov 2006 at 21:54 - 5

I suspect Christmas week

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

03 Nov 2006 at 22:01 - 6

Excellent - I've been wanting a Candy Cane Rod for my warrior (for PvP)...looks like I'll have the chance to get it after all.

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

03 Nov 2006 at 22:02 - 7

Are these weapons green color now? Like what i saw on Guildwars.com. There was a picture with green candy cane weapon.

Carinae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Inside

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

03 Nov 2006 at 22:15 - 8

I'm using Hidden Rock! (ftw!)

stefan_moore

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jun 2006

W/

03 Nov 2006 at 22:16 - 9

i hope we get candy canes again i sold all mine and although i made alot of money i kinda miss them

bt weapons again is kl

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

03 Nov 2006 at 22:22 - 10

Note that right now these are just tournament rewards, meaning if you arent a top 100 Guild or have more ectos than your storage can hold, you shouldnt even be worrying about them existing. Though she did just say Non-PvPers will have a chance to get them.

It'd be funny if they just added them to collectors like last years CC weapons, that would be a big "F U" to the Tournament winners

shardfenix

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Il Power Overwhelming Il [HaX]

03 Nov 2006 at 22:33 - 11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

Here are the stats of the items:

Dagger: 5-5 piercing damage, no requirement.
Scythe: 10-10 slashing damage, no requirement.

So...CC daggers do less than minimum damage, and scythes...well...suck? Next year would you like to give us items that aren't completely useless?

Shaden

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Lost Keys to Perception {lost}

R/

03 Nov 2006 at 22:59 - 12

Quote:

Originally Posted by shardfenix

So...CC daggers do less than minimum damage, and scythes...well...suck? Next year would you like to give us items that aren't completely useless?

Well they really can't give us max CC weapons just like that, or else everyone would have one. The economy would be affected greatly, especially if they were moddable. Not to mention this is intended for "everyone" to get so lvl 1's in Ascalon would be wielding max swords, axes, ect. Its the same reason hats don't have AR, a gift and something fun to have, nothing more.

I think we could get some of them buffed up a bit, maybe stronger ones for more collectors items... but we will just have to see. We could always get pre-customized ones like seasonal armor, but I hate that restriction sooo....

Anywho, I can't wait for winterfest again, need to re-stock on CCs and the arena game was great fun.

(Assuming it returns)

DeathByBowtie

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2006

Michigan

BGP Army [BGP]

03 Nov 2006 at 23:03 - 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by shardfenix

So...CC daggers do less than minimum damage, and scythes...well...suck? Next year would you like to give us items that aren't completely useless?

They're not meant to be useful, they're meant to be fun. Look at the Banana Scythe; 10-10 dmg, but one of my favorite weapons to date because of the hilarious skin.

Oh a GW forum

Banned

Join Date: Oct 2006

W/

03 Nov 2006 at 23:17 - 14

Isn't it kinda early to be talking about this? I thought this stuff was supposed to happen near christmas.

chessyang

Not far from Elite

Join Date: Apr 2006

Florida

W/

03 Nov 2006 at 23:40 - 15

Sweet!

Jade

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

Canada...... Eh!

03 Nov 2006 at 23:47 - 16

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeathByBowtie

They're not meant to be useful, they're meant to be fun. Look at the Banana Scythe; 10-10 dmg, but one of my favorite weapons to date because of the hilarious skin.

Ummm, call me clueless, but, banana scythe? I want one! Where could I get one without having to resort to looking for it myself?

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

04 Nov 2006 at 00:10 - 17

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jade

Ummm, call me clueless, but, banana scythe? I want one! Where could I get one without having to resort to looking for it myself?

Quest in Nightfall.

"Drakes on a Plain" quest.

It is chop full of movie references. Monty Pyhon..Snakes on a Plane..etc

DFrost

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Ultima Thule

Legacy of Echovald [Echo]

P/

04 Nov 2006 at 00:25 - 18

Quote:

Originally Posted by shardfenix

So...CC daggers do less than minimum damage, and scythes...well...suck? Next year would you like to give us items that aren't completely useless?

They are fine. This game seriously doesn't need max damage candy weapons that people use around the year.

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

04 Nov 2006 at 00:29 - 19

I wish i got enough space for these new CC weapons!

FalconDance

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

...deep within the sylvan splendor...

Order of the Migrating Coconuts [ALBA]

04 Nov 2006 at 00:47 - 20

Quote:

Originally Posted by shardfenix

So...CC daggers do less than minimum damage, and scythes...well...suck? Next year would you like to give us items that aren't completely useless?

You are kidding, right?

These weapons are the best! Anyone can use them (no req.), they look great and they're flat out fun! I have a lvl 20 ele who still uses her candy cane wand on occasion (right now she's carrying the peppermint shield

) -- and have a couple bows on hand as well.

Which reminds me, it's nearly time to pull out the gingerbread shield for autumn adventuring

.

It's not all about uber, you know.

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

04 Nov 2006 at 01:06 - 21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Former Ruling

Note that right now these are just tournament rewards, meaning if you arent a top 100 Guild or have more ectos than your storage can hold, you shouldnt even be worrying about them existing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

In addition, there will be an opportunity (announced in the next few weeks) for non-PVP players to have an opportunity to try and earn them as well.

I'm 99.9% sure that this will involve the Wintersday PvE event.

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

04 Nov 2006 at 01:11 - 22

Question... if i have the same candy cane weapons from last year. Should i get all the one that is available this year? There is at least 12 weapons on the list.

Mournblade

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

Houston, Texas

Dawn Treaders [DAWN]

W/Mo

04 Nov 2006 at 02:09 - 23

Please make the bow a longbow. kthxbai~

=)

FalconDance

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Sep 2005

...deep within the sylvan splendor...

Order of the Migrating Coconuts [ALBA]

04 Nov 2006 at 03:09 - 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mournblade

Please make the bow a longbow. kthxbai~

Last year's was a short bow (range), right? Maybe split the difference

.

Greedy Gus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Striking Distance

04 Nov 2006 at 05:15 - 25

The point is, these are being given as the rewards for this PvP playoff season, and yet they're useless items. There is a bit of a disconnect.

dansamy

Chasing Dragons

Join Date: May 2005

Lost in La-La Land

LFGuild

Mo/Me

04 Nov 2006 at 05:41 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greedy Gus

The point is, these are being given as the rewards for this PvP playoff season, and yet they're useless items. There is a bit of a disconnect.

And in addition to that, the PvE players will have an opportunity to obtain them as well. I am thinking something like the collectors from last Wintersday is what Gaile means, in which case they will be ridiculously easy to obtain in PvE and thus, an even dumber PvP tournament prize.

Wasteland Squidget

I'm back?

Join Date: Sep 2005

Here.

Delta Formation [DF]

W/E

04 Nov 2006 at 21:41 - 27

If there were some kind of PvE competition such that only a few of the best PvEers could get them, I'd be happy. It's my opinion that the PvP would be the more difficult route, but at least they'd still be limited in quantity.

If they're available from collectors and easy farming, it's idiotic that they're also the reward for the PvP tournament. The PvP rewards are a great way for the top PvPers to get something special, and it's a shame if they're offered free from grind in that case. Why would they be tournament rewards at all?

Making them max + moddable would make sense if they were a limited edition item, since using them would be a status symbol. The fact that they're non-max indicates to me that it will be like last year. As a PvP player who was hoping to make tournament, that's rather disappointing to me.

dansamy

Chasing Dragons

Join Date: May 2005

Lost in La-La Land

LFGuild

Mo/Me

04 Nov 2006 at 22:12 - 28

Well, it gives me no incentive to attempt tournament, that's for sure. (Not that I've ever particualrly cared much for tournaments.

)

Jongo River

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

04 Nov 2006 at 22:26 - 29

Are you people playing for fun, or just to rub peoples noses in the cool junk you've got?

On the subject of weapon strength, maybe anet could consider coming up with a system of leveling gimmic weapons to match the wielder? Like hero armour.

Just a thought.

dansamy

Chasing Dragons

Join Date: May 2005

Lost in La-La Land

LFGuild

Mo/Me

04 Nov 2006 at 22:58 - 30

If the PvE players can also acquire the reward for the PvP tournament, what incentive is there to participate in the tournament, since it is considerably more difficult to be successful in PvP than it is against AI?

KiyaKoreena

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

USA

Kirins of Holy Light

N/

04 Nov 2006 at 23:00 - 31

Like it was mentioned before just because they are not max damage does not mean they are useless. They have NO req. Anyone can use them and get fair damage out of them. Plus they are cute. :-)

Zolderick

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

Australia

N/

05 Nov 2006 at 07:06 - 32

Excellent! I love the candy cane weapons

Div

I like yumy food!

Join Date: Jan 2006

Where I can eat yumy food

Dead Alley [dR]

Mo/R

06 Nov 2006 at 08:57 - 33

I completely agree with some of the people here that making it available to all PvE'ers to grind by farming charr carvings makes it completely pointless as a tournament reward, so why should anyone bother trying to win the tournament if they can spend 10 minutes killing charr and getting more than just a shield (which is what you get if you finish 32nd). The cape trims are worth the effort alone, and adding in some stupid candy cane weapons is not adding anything if everyone can get 20 of them through killing some little charr.

Jongo River

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2006

06 Nov 2006 at 09:34 - 34

Don't bother then. Man, PvP'ers are such brats.

PanGammon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Underworld

Leader of Grenth Gaming Inc [GG]

Mo/Me

06 Nov 2006 at 19:34 - 35

YAY!!! I love Candy. And more than Candy, I love wielding Candy. Been playing for under a year so this is my 1st GW Wintersday.......

Chewbacca Defense

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

667 Neighbour of the Beast

Ttgr

06 Nov 2006 at 19:36 - 36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Greedy Gus

The point is, these are being given as the rewards for this PvP playoff season, and yet they're useless items. There is a bit of a disconnect.

Peppermint shield is handy for pvp. 10AL with a +5e/+5 AL sword will give a caster 75AL base - which is nice. Also, lowers your e levels which is great to guard against e-denial builds.

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

06 Nov 2006 at 19:40 - 37

If the candy cane weapons has the same color like last years (red) than i'm only getting the daggers, staff, spear and scythe!

i8work

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Jun 2006

we hate [pve]

Mo/Me

07 Nov 2006 at 14:24 - 38

Gotta love the elitest pvpers... moaning cos they cant just show of their candy cane swords as a badge of honour... hint, you already have that, just show your chumpionship points.

GG anet, Its nice that pvpers and pvers have the chance to get some goodies.

dansamy

Chasing Dragons

Join Date: May 2005

Lost in La-La Land

LFGuild

Mo/Me

07 Nov 2006 at 15:13 - 39

Quote:

Originally Posted by i8work

Gotta love the elitest pvpers... moaning cos they cant just show of their candy cane swords as a badge of honour... hint, you already have that, just show your chumpionship points.

GG anet, Its nice that pvpers and pvers have the chance to get some goodies.

We're whining because Anet is going to allow PvE players the opportunity to acquire the exact same items through PvE as we will receive for a PvP tournament. PvE is much, much easier than tournament PvP.Why bother? Now, if the PvE ones are the same as last years (No req, mid-low dmg, non-moddable) and the PvP ones are max and moddable with req7 or req8, then it's much more reasonable to give them out as tournament prizes and let the PvE'ers have their collectable farming to turn in for the regular ones.

Greedy Gus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Striking Distance

07 Nov 2006 at 15:21 - 40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chewbacca Defense

Peppermint shield is handy for pvp. 10AL with a +5e/+5 AL sword will give a caster 75AL base - which is nice. Also, lowers your e levels which is great to guard against e-denial builds.

Sure shields are great for casters. However, the correct comparison is between this 10AL shield vs. an 8AL shield with 30HP and -5 physical damage absorption 20% of the time. Of course, the latter wins.

Quote:

Originally Posted by i8work

Gotta love the elitest pvpers... moaning cos they cant just show of their candy cane swords as a badge of honour... hint, you already have that, just show your chumpionship points.

GG anet, Its nice that pvpers and pvers have the chance to get some goodies.

I think you're misunderstanding. The main problem for most PvP players with this tournament & reward system is not that the PvE players can get the same items. Rather, it's that the items themselves are all but useless in PvP.

Sure it's fun to give 'goodies' to PvPers too, but that should supplement some sort of actual desirable reward...

Quote:

Originally Posted by KiyaKoreena

Like it was mentioned before just because they are not max damage does not mean they are useless. They have NO req. Anyone can use them and get fair damage out of them. Plus they are cute. :-)

The main thing is that unless I'm mistaken, these are only slightly better than if you were to use a max item even without meeting the requirement. That is to say, the way the game works, if you don't meet the req., you still do a portion (somewhere around half unless I'm mistaken) of the listed damage/whatever, and the max item will actually have useful inherent bonuses/mods.