White Dye A Fad? Or Will Black Make A Comeback

korcan

korcan

noobalicious

Join Date: Jun 2006

as most of you know, black is no longer the most expensive dye since the introduction of white. will this trend last? is our beloved black dye ever going to reclaim the crown of "most expensive dye"? i guess time will tell.

what colors do u enjoy the most?

on a side note, the new white dye looks awesome on female necro 15k kurz.

Trvth Jvstice

Trvth Jvstice

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

HALE

W/

I'd say white dye wil stay at a higher price as long as their drops stay so rare. I farmed for about an hour for dyes yesterday and got a black dye and a few other non-rare dyes. I still haven't got a white dye.

Zehnchu

Zehnchu

Popcorn Fetish

Join Date: Dec 2005

[GODS]

Mo/Me

It's double dye weekend...all dye's will fall in price.

Warrior Of The Toon

Warrior Of The Toon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2006

Returning after a 50 month break. Hi.

None

R/

I think that they may eventually settle down to being equal, but considering that black dyes have been around alot longer than white it may take a while to balance out a bit. Personally I think both of them have their armour where they work well, and white should be a good mixer, whereas they've broken blacks.

TsunamiZ

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

i wish the white actually made armors look white instead of gray

Havre Fras

Havre Fras

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

N/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zehnchu
It's double dye weekend...all dye's will fall in price.
White dye went up from 10k to 15k.

The prices are dropping fast, eh?

Tuesg

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

hex

R/Me

In my first two days in elona i got a total of 4 whites days so my dervish got off to a good start. I have only ever seen 2 blacks in a year and half or so. So i might fall or maybe I got lucky.

Thorondor Port

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

British Columbia

W/

does the
silver silver silver yellow, white dye
compare to actual white dye?

cuz if so, save yourself about 10k per peice of armor.

Jesse

Jesse

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Feb 2006

New York

Vanquishing Memories [VM]

Mo/Me

It might all depend on people's favorite. If more and more people choose white over black then black might start to go down and vice versa.

Xalkie

Xalkie

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2005

Simi Valley, CA

N/Me

its all about the Black

Kha

Kha

Sins FTW!

Join Date: Mar 2005

USA

Angel Sharks [AS]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thorondor Port
does the
silver silver silver yellow, white dye
compare to actual white dye?

cuz if so, save yourself about 10k per peice of armor.
Not even close. Silver has a very unique effect compared to other dyes. While white dye makes the whole armor lighter, and black dye makes the whole armor darker, silver makes the contrast between the light and dark areas more dramatic. It makes the armor look more metallic this way, though in many cases it comes off as cheap plastic imho.

Knightsaber Sith

Knightsaber Sith

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

W/E

I think that black will ultimately be more desired than white but only time will tell....

Darcy

Darcy

Never Too Old

Join Date: Jul 2006

Rhode Island where there are no GW contests

Order of First

W/R

White vs black will come down to personal taste in the end. And IMO black will win. I think most players like the effect.

And ANet is working on fixing the dye colors. Hopefully we will see an improvement in the silver soon.

Count to Potato

Count to Potato

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Imagination Land

I Swear She Was Eighteen [Gwen]

W/

the light side wins or the dark side like always in every movie and story the good guy wins, in this instance white wins over black dye, and of course brown gets left out

winkgood

winkgood

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

GoL

R/

IMO, black dye is still more rare than white dye. On average, I've heard of more people getting recent white dye drops than black dye. Its too early to tell what the end price of white will be at but my guess is that it will be somewhere in the 2-5K region while black stays around 8-10K. I think black is still more popular than white.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

and so....racism in guildwars became apparent in dye prices.

*giggle*

$hade.

$hade.

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canada

[FiRM[]

R/

I just got black today

Thom Bangalter

Thom Bangalter

Grindin'

Join Date: Dec 2005

MO

E/Mo

I'm pretty no dye is more rare than the other, just black and white dyes are in greater demand than orange, so more people buy it at the dye trader than sell it at the dye trader.

Additionally, I've received 2 black dyes in game that I can recall, and I just hang on to them. I'm sure other people do this because they plan on getting 4-5 for their armor, so less are sold. However, lots of people will buy black dye from the trader to dye their armor immediately.

However, I'm pretty sure orange dye is more common, that one drops like crazy.

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thom Bangalter
I'm pretty no dye is more rare than the other, just black and white dyes are in greater demand than orange, so more people buy it at the dye trader than sell it at the dye trader.

Additionally, I've received 2 black dyes in game that I can recall, and I just hang on to them. I'm sure other people do this because they plan on getting 4-5 for their armor, so less are sold. However, lots of people will buy black dye from the trader to dye their armor immediately.

However, I'm pretty sure orange dye is more common, that one drops like crazy.
I'm positive you're wrong. Both Black and White are rare. Not sure if one is rarer than the other, but they are definately rare. It's easy to test by simply holding on to every dye you get for a couple of months. Then see how many of each color you have. I guarantee you will have more of the cheaper colors than you will of the more expensive ones.

I used to farm dye in pre a lot, and I'm sure anyone else who have also done that can tell you that there is a definate ratio of rarity in the dyes. It was something like 1 silver for every 6 regular dye (red, blue, orange, yellow, purple, green), and 1 black for every 15-20 silver, maybe more. I'm sure there's still a ratio similar to that now, but they may have increased the chances of black and now white.

Anarkii

Anarkii

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

-None-

R/Me

Black looks good on metallic armors, some of the 'silky' outfits of eles/mesmers, as well as Sin armor. White mostly looks brilliant on cloth(monk especially), and a few of the leather sets.

And as already mentioned above, white is an excellent mixer to produce custom colors, while black currently isnt mixing that well :s

They'll settle down to around the same price eventually in my opinion.

Legendary Shiz

Legendary Shiz

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tuesg
In my first two days in elona i got a total of 4 whites days so my dervish got off to a good start. I have only ever seen 2 blacks in a year and half or so. So i might fall or maybe I got lucky.
hacks

White dye looks pretty leet imo. Kind of sad considering all my stuff is dyed black already.

Zehnchu

Zehnchu

Popcorn Fetish

Join Date: Dec 2005

[GODS]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Havre Fras
White dye went up from 10k to 15k.

The prices are dropping fast, eh?
And it’s back to 10k again..

Dee dee dee

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

White drop rate is higher then black, black will always be the most exspensive until they add gold dye with a lower drop ratio.

Gold dye will happen..Anet reads this, big boom for shields AR+10 vs XX a while ago and boom green shields with those stats appear..

Zolderick

Zolderick

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

Australia

N/

I still like black. I have been monitoring the price white dye and it has dropped considerably from 15k down to 9k now

korcan

korcan

noobalicious

Join Date: Jun 2006



its official! black pwns white! [at least for the time being ]

Spirit Of Azrael

Spirit Of Azrael

Echo-mending Master

Join Date: Jun 2006

Service of Shadows [SOS]

W/N

4 whites? HAX!

Ken Dei

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/Mo

*Feels so special because I found a White dye while questing...*

Queenie

Queenie

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

I can't believe white dye shot up too like 70k in the first few minutes of the update, it made me laugh when brown dye was like 5k aswell and now 120g at the trader, I hope that white dye will continue to drop ^^

NinjaKai

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

UK

Duality Of The Dragon

Personally I think white dye should have replaced dye remover not grey dye.

Cebe

Cebe

The 5th Celestial Boss

Join Date: Jul 2006

Inverness, Scotland

The Cult of Scaro [WHO]

E/

As much as I like the white dye I feel when my NF monk gets far enough through Factions it will still be Black Kurzick ftw! Tis by far the nicest monk armor I've ever seen... Even though white symbolises purity, which I guess is a good thing in a monk, I prefer smiting!

Chewbacca Defense

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

667 Neighbour of the Beast

Ttgr

Once you go black, you never go back!

|pyro|

|pyro|

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Me/

if you want to look good, you have to pay, and in most armors, you look very good in black or white . I thinnk the prices will be somewhat the same.
+ they added a new money sink another rare dye.

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

I think white dye will become the next standard for silver dye. And silver dye will become common for everyone. The price would hover around 7 to 8k and i think black dye will go back to the status of being one of the rarest dye drop you can find.

Tobias Funke

Tobias Funke

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Following of Xanthar

Me/N

This is completely anecdotal, but I got my first black dye drop in 15 months yesterday. While I may have finally gotten lucky, perhaps the drop rate has been increased. I think it's absurd that black and white are so expensive. These are the 2 colors that work best for making pigments. If these dyes were cheaper we'd see a lot more different colors in the game. Forrest green, navy, tangerine,powder blue would all become more realistic possibilities. Also you'd be able to experiment with colors more, dye your armor for holliday's and so forth. In short I'd like to see black and white dye drop to around 200 gold.

Superdarth

Superdarth

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

WHITE?!

That is one of the stupidest things ive ever herd!

Who woud pay big money for a boring colour as white?It adds no coolness whatsoever.

Sir Skullcrasher

Sir Skullcrasher

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Jun 2005

California

15 over 50 [Rare]

W/Mo

wow, silver dye is close to 400 gold and that is considered afforable for some players. Guess white will become the next expensive dye under black.

KamikazeChicken

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Aug 2005

Mo/

People had been calling for white for the longest time. Those people went straight out and started buying, so the price was temporarily inflated. The demand has shrunk, as those people have acquired their dyes, so the price is falling accordingly. >.>

Black and White should hover at around the same price, assuming their drop rates are nearly identical.

Jetdoc

Jetdoc

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Jul 2005

The Eyes of Texas [BEVO]

D/A

IMO, Black and White will wind up having a relatively equal value in the long run. Maybe this is the "good versus bad" mentality that we all have ingrained in us...I dunno.

I personally would choose Burnt Orange over either of those boring colors any day of the week

PanGammon

PanGammon

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2006

The Underworld

Leader of Grenth Gaming Inc [GG]

Mo/Me

IMO Both white and black are unoriginal. I'd rather go with a mix involving one of those two......

pies of doom

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Superdarth
WHITE?!

That is one of the stupidest things ive ever herd!

Who woud pay big money for a boring colour as white?It adds no coolness whatsoever.
i believe white is considered to be a SHADE and not a COLOUR!

same goes for black aswell