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LiamR

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Prefer Unlight Beer [PuB]

04 Nov 2006 at 22:55 - 1

"9. Do Not Abuse the English Language

This is a message board, not a chat room. Secondly, DO NOT use "Leet-Speak" in our forums. As such, you have all the time necessary to articulate your posts in a coherent matter. "You" is only two more letters than "u." It will not kill you to type them. Completely illegible posts are subject to moderation - and I can not guarantee their accuracy of 'translating' the author’s original message."

I really don't understand this rule.. is it a bannable offense to tlk lyk ths? I mean, i just talk like it would be written 'cos it looks good, but seriously, does this need to be a rule and why?

Tyggen

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2006

Mo/Me

04 Nov 2006 at 23:08 - 2

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiamR

Completely illegible posts are subject to moderation - and I can not guarantee their accuracy of 'translating' the author’s original message.

There's your answer. It's not bannable, but the posts may get "translated."

The Pointless

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Stuck in the UK

Rage International [RAGE]

W/Me

04 Nov 2006 at 23:22 - 3

It doesn't look good, it looks like you're either incapable of using a keyboard or you are viewing this forum throught a mobile (if mobiles supported PHP of course). It's unnessesary and annoying... it also feels rude to me.

As someone who has been using computers since childhood (from the Amiga) I find it more difficult to actually type in such stupid "spk" anyways.

Please save that for chat rooms, where it is actually a must.

Cherno

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Stars of Destiny

E/

04 Nov 2006 at 23:44 - 4

Forums are based on written communication. If you can't write in a way that can be understood easily then you fail to communicate. If you can't communicate there is no need to post and expect any kind of dialog. You don't have to be perfect, you just have to try. You should break out of the habit of l33t speak anyway, it will not serve you in your adult life.

unienaule

I dunt even get "Retired"

Join Date: Aug 2005

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

05 Nov 2006 at 00:52 - 5

We won't ban you for just one post in incomprehensible leetspeak, but they will be deleted, and if you were to continually post that way, you might get banned. It's like doing anything else repeatedly over and over that doesn't contribute. Once is just annoying, but keep it up and I can't say how far we'd go in response.

tuna-fish_sushi

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2005

California

E/A

05 Nov 2006 at 02:46 - 6

It could be a bannable offense because then come other useless posts with no orientation to the topic, saying how bad your grammar is and causing unwanted spam.

Also I view these forums on my psp though I never post on it. It takes at least 5mins to type what I just typed. I would probably change some words to make it easier for me to write but not enough to make it unreadable.

Pyrea

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2005

The Outer Rim

Initiates of Maat

05 Nov 2006 at 03:03 - 7

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Pointless

As someone who has been using computers since childhood (from the Amiga) I find it more difficult to actually type in such stupid "spk" anyways.

He hee, I started out on an Amiga as well, nice to meet someone similar

And I totally agree with you as well. Using shorthand or leet talk in a forum shows laziness and a total disrespect for other forum users...

Save it for mobiles and chat rooms ^ ^

DeanBB

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Arizona

Wizardry Players Guild, http://4guildwars.7.forumer.com

05 Nov 2006 at 04:57 - 8

Keep in mind that there are also people with english as a 2nd language and so using that form of communicating isn't going to do some of them a whole lotta good.

Tark Alkerk

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

In a Black Hole

less

E/

05 Nov 2006 at 05:13 - 9

also this would have been better dicussed in the forum surggestions, or even pm-ing a Mod about it.

Spader

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

W/Mo

05 Nov 2006 at 05:19 - 10

I think the rule is in place to keep from having posts like this a simular quote in just random threads.

"ta heros r just worthless they shud make them fight gooder."

I admit to just writing in all lower case exceot for here, since I do tend to have a few run on sentances.

Samuel Anders

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

Me/E

05 Nov 2006 at 06:09 - 11

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeanBB

Keep in mind that there are also people with english as a 2nd language and so using that form of communicating isn't going to do some of them a whole lotta good.

I'm new here, and this rule was one of the reasons I ultimately decided to join. I hate going to chat rooms and seeing it filled with leet speak garbage.

I agree with the quoted statement, and I'd like to add that this rule won't work against those who don't speak english very well. There's a huge gap between not knowing the language, and just blatant lazyness.

Mesmer in Need

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

[ToA]

05 Nov 2006 at 06:20 - 12

leet speak is hard to understand for most people. now on the froums, i dont have perfect sentance structure, and i tend to write fast and make mistakes, as well as not capitalising some of the letters i should. i abreviate stuff too like lol, rotfl but thoes are normaly abreviated. you ususally dont see anyone saying "laughing out loud" but thats how we interpret it.

dansamy

Chasing Dragons

Join Date: May 2005

Lost in La-La Land

LFGuild

Mo/Me

05 Nov 2006 at 06:32 - 13

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Pointless

It doesn't look good, it looks like you're either incapable of using a keyboard or you are viewing this forum throught a mobile (if mobiles supported PHP of course).

My Treo 650 is capable of surfing and posting at Guru. Half the posts I write are written while mobile. Of course, I can't use the drop downs for thread moderation while on my Treo, so all my mod work is done from a "real" PC.

Terra Xin

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Mar 2006

New Zealand

Me/R

05 Nov 2006 at 06:39 - 14

Quote:

I agree with the quoted statement, and I'd like to add that this rule won't work against those who don't speak english very well. There's a huge gap between not knowing the language, and just blatant lazyness.

I find second language speakers more easy to understand than someone who types in shorthand, most of the time its like "wow, english is your second language?". But yeah I agree with the rule posted by this site, communication is important, not the speed at which you present it.

Yanman.be

Banned

Join Date: Dec 2005

Belgium

[ROSE]

A/

05 Nov 2006 at 10:29 - 15

Quote:

Originally Posted by dansamy

My Treo 650 is capable of surfing and posting at Guru. Half the posts I write are written while mobile. Of course, I can't use the drop downs for thread moderation while on my Treo, so all my mod work is done from a "real" PC.

Doesn't it cost alot to get online through a mobile network?

The Pointless

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Stuck in the UK

Rage International [RAGE]

W/Me

05 Nov 2006 at 11:06 - 16

Quote:

Originally Posted by dansamy

My Treo 650 is capable of surfing and posting at Guru. Half the posts I write are written while mobile. Of course, I can't use the drop downs for thread moderation while on my Treo, so all my mod work is done from a "real" PC.

Most people aren't that jammy though XD

Electric Sky

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: May 2006

05 Nov 2006 at 12:39 - 17

Leet speak is just plain annoying to read. Thats all there is to say about it

Alias_X

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

05 Nov 2006 at 15:11 - 18

It takes a lot longer to make sense of someones stupid spelling, etc.

Besides, you look much more intelligible by writing proper posts.

Nadasee

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

05 Nov 2006 at 15:21 - 19

Leet speak is sooo enoying to read yes!
And as most people says here, it just plain Enoying and impossible to read sometimes! And you seem less inteligent and childish by typing it. btw, what's wrong with proper Eng language typing ect!? atleast you get what people says then.

Less good Eng speaking people may use leet speaking look-a-likes, but bad Eng typing can't be that close to leet speak can it...
They do on the other hand see it as a mutch easier way to type, but, i suggest they spend thoes leet speaking lessons on propper Eng ones instead.

Bann Leet speak!

LiamR

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Prefer Unlight Beer [PuB]

05 Nov 2006 at 15:34 - 20

All valid points, but I don't see why this should be a rule, per se. Maybe a hint? Little pop-up when you first join?

"D0n7 74|k |1k3 7h15 0r y0u w1|| b3 b4nn3d!"
or even.
"[)0|\|+ +@||< |1|<3 +|-|1$ 0|2 `/0|_| \X/1|| |}3 |}@|\||\|3[)."

^^

Tachyon

Forge Runner

Join Date: Nov 2005

Stoke, England

The Godless [GOD]

W/

05 Nov 2006 at 15:50 - 21

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Samuel Anders

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

Me/E

05 Nov 2006 at 15:57 - 22

Haha. Binary?

I could probably figure out what it says (if it means anything), but I do enough of that stuff in my college classes.

Nadasee

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

05 Nov 2006 at 16:04 - 23

Binary... that brings back memories... and no fun ones

good thing i finished my computer/programing education haha!

Answer to the Binary code: "I'd rather read this than crappy leet speak or txt talk!"
Agree on the first statement haha!

Other statement, not unless i turn in to a PC!

/Bann Leet Speak

dansamy

Chasing Dragons

Join Date: May 2005

Lost in La-La Land

LFGuild

Mo/Me

05 Nov 2006 at 16:40 - 24

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yanman.be

Doesn't it cost alot to get online through a mobile network?

Not really. I signed a 2yr contract with a special deal when the 650 was released. As a result, I have a corporate rate + free internet for 2 years.

After my contract expires, my internet would cost $15/month, which is really no more expensive than dial-up. However, I'll be fininshed with nursing school by then, so I doubt I will keep the internet then.

Cherno

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Stars of Destiny

E/

05 Nov 2006 at 18:49 - 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azagoth

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"I'd rather read this than crappy leet speak or txt talk!"

Hephaestus Ram

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2005

None

W/E

05 Nov 2006 at 19:11 - 26

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiamR

"9. Do Not Abuse the English Language

This is a message board, not a chat room. Secondly, DO NOT use "Leet-Speak" in our forums. As such, you have all the time necessary to articulate your posts in a coherent matter. "You" is only two more letters than "u." It will not kill you to type them. Completely illegible posts are subject to moderation - and I can not guarantee their accuracy of 'translating' the author’s original message."

I really don't understand this rule.. is it a bannable offense to tlk lyk ths? I mean, i just talk like it would be written 'cos it looks good, but seriously, does this need to be a rule and why?

There doesn't "need" to be a rule saying that you can't throw your
garbage out the window into the street either.

But then it's nice to know that their are people that insist on trying
to maintain some level of civilization in society.

Swinging Fists

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Mar 2006

W/Mo

05 Nov 2006 at 19:30 - 27

Quote:

Originally Posted by LiamR

All valid points, but I don't see why this should be a rule, per se. Maybe a hint? Little pop-up when you first join?

"D0n7 74|k |1k3 7h15 0r y0u w1|| b3 b4nn3d!"
or even.
"[)0|\|+ +@||< |1|<3 +|-|1$ 0|2 `/0|_| \X/1|| |}3 |}@|\||\|3[)."

^^

If I wanted a challenge, I would simply try to find the elite mission and not try to decipher this crap.

Commander Ryker

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jun 2005

R/

05 Nov 2006 at 19:59 - 28

This would be a good rule if people actually read it and it was enforced. I see so much of this short hand crap and it just makes me crazy. Words are shortened that don't have to be, like the afore mentioned "you" or purposely mispelled, like teh for the. When did that become a word anyway?

Note to The Pointless and Pyrea:I learned to type on a manual typewriter and learned, not only to spell everything correctly but to do it fast as well. Hehehe.....beat that!

The Pointless

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Stuck in the UK

Rage International [RAGE]

W/Me

05 Nov 2006 at 20:03 - 29

Quote:

Originally Posted by Commander Ryker

Note to The Pointless and Pyrea:I learned to type on a manual typewriter and learned, not only to spell everything correctly but to do it fast as well. Hehehe.....beat that!

I consider myself defeated already ^^

LiamR

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

Prefer Unlight Beer [PuB]

05 Nov 2006 at 20:08 - 30

For the love of god I dont use 1337 speak, binary, or want it banned, I was just wandering should it be a rule?

P.S Im so crap at 1337 speak i found a translator oO"

Google Ftw!

Cherno

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Stars of Destiny

E/

05 Nov 2006 at 20:46 - 31

Because if it is a big enough problem and they get reprimanded by the moderators they will complain.

Why would you need a popup to warn you? When you sign up for the forums you are expected to agree to and read the terms of service which include the rules.

Mournblade

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: May 2005

Houston, Texas

Dawn Treaders [DAWN]

W/Mo

05 Nov 2006 at 21:44 - 32

You've just proven exactly why it should be a rule. good lord...

Skids

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

UK FTW

R/Mo

05 Nov 2006 at 23:14 - 33

I have enough trouble trying to get my son to write properly. Seeing someone type what is basically trash is annoying and doesn't make me see that person as anything other than someone who is mentally retarded. In fact its worse than that as the less abled have an excuse for it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Commander Ryker

Note to The Pointless and Pyrea:I learned to type on a manual typewriter and learned, not only to spell everything correctly but to do it fast as well. Hehehe.....beat that!

PAH!!! I learned to type on an Abacus

Commander Ryker

Site Contributor

Join Date: Jun 2005

R/

06 Nov 2006 at 00:58 - 34

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skids

I have enough trouble trying to get my son to write properly. Seeing someone type what is basically trash is annoying and doesn't make me see that person as anything other than someone who is mentally retarded. In fact its worse than that as the less abled have an excuse for it.

That's true. I used to work with MR adults who wrote better then some here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Skids

PAH!!! I learned to type on an Abacus

lmao.....that must have been really hard considering that's used for math.