In case you haven't noticed, you can no longer count on a chest dropping a gold item if it produces a gold for someone else. I got two gold items in a row last night during Vizzunah Square, while others who came right behind me got purple items.
Just wanted to let you all know.
-Forjo
Chests gold/purple drops are now completely random
Forjo
Dav85
old news. october 25th update 
Konrow
Yea I actually like this update since it made chests what they should be : Random
The Prince
then whats the point of buying expensive obsidian keys if the chests arent more likely to give u gold items?
explodemyheart
I forgot about this until yesterday. I was helping my boyfriend get through the game, he opens a chest to reveal a perfect gold bow. I have no keys, so he gives me one. I open it and get a purple non-max scythe with no mods at all.
I sat in a corner and weeped for awhile.
I sat in a corner and weeped for awhile.
garethporlest18
I thought it was pretty funny when only one person got a purple. Everyone else got a rare from that FoW chest.
Amity and Truth
It's good that it is random again. The system before as a bit strange. And this one is actually producing some comedy now and then. "NOOOO WHY MEEEEE!? Fate is cruel!"
The Prince
can i get a refund on the 40k i spent in obsidian keys so i can spend the money on more profitable and less random ventures?
strcpy
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can i get a refund on the 40k i spent in obsidian keys so i can spend the money on more profitable and less random ventures?
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If you want a sure way to get lots of money go ebay. Otherwise drops are random, chests are random, and you can not always predict market trends.
Former Ruling
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can i get a refund on the 40k i spent in obsidian keys so i can spend the money on more profitable and less random ventures?
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Chest 1 might give Player 1 a gold and player 2 a purple, and Chest 2 might give Player 1 a Purple and player 2 a Gold - Exactly the same as if Chest 1 droped golds for both of them and Chest 2 dropped purples for both.
All it stops really is Chest Leeching. People that travel in groups to make sure the chests they open are never purple, in my example Player 2 would not have opened chest 2 before now and saved his key - and this of course was never the goal of chests in the game - it is SUPPOSED to be a chance between purple or gold not something you know.
pve-er
I hate the update, everyone get gold from chest and I got crapy purple
it is so unfair for people with less luck
it is so unfair for people with less luck
HawkofStorms
Its so unfair for people with less luck? Luck is just that, luck. Its RANDOM people.
Anyway, I like this. No more standing around a chest staring at it waiting for somebody to "test it," which was pretty annoying.
Anyway, I like this. No more standing around a chest staring at it waiting for somebody to "test it," which was pretty annoying.
pingu666
u can get crap gold weapons, like 75% of the caster stuff chests kick out
korcan
i love the randomness of chests now. i was usually the only person in a chest run group whod open the majority of chests first anyways. that stupid /roll 100 was just so frustrating. by the time everyone would roll [everyone, who am i kidding, there would always be like 2-3 people not rolling] i could have checked another 2 chests. and a major pet peeve of mine, when someone who didnt check a chest would leave right after getting a gold item. the randomness of chests effectively eliminates "leechers" which is, um... awesome.
MMSDome
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then whats the point of buying expensive obsidian keys if the chests arent more likely to give u gold items?
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Angel Netherborn
Agreed. Random is the way too go. It's just like the auto-assignment of monster drops. Once it's random, there won't be complaints about player unfairness, such as who wasn't willing to take their turn opening chests. No, there's not much to gripe against except fate. But on the other hand... I do have crappy luck most of the time... oh well.
Lyonette
well personally, i dislike this update. i'm not a chest runner and i dont leech at all, but since playing through nightfall [just arrived in the realm of torment] i have gotten 2 golds from around 50 chests from just playing through the game.... while my friend who i've been playing through the game with has got multiple golds in succession.
i hope my luck is about to change because it's really starting to get me down...
i hope my luck is about to change because it's really starting to get me down...
Tea And Cashews
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Originally Posted by pve-er
I hate the update, everyone get gold from chest and I got crapy purple
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As for me, I stopped getting keys. Every once and a while I'll buy a few if I'm going farming in Sorrow's, because I usually make back what I spent.
Other than that, I only use keys is they've been dropped by monsters.
Tea And Cashews
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Originally Posted by MMSDome
actually they are just as likely to give you gold drops now because it used to be it was either a gold or purple chest for everyone. Now its gold or purple individually, this really doesnt change anything except for the fact that you cant leech off everyone else anymroe to see if its a gold chest.
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Chicken Ftw
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Originally Posted by pve-er
I hate the update, everyone get gold from chest and I got crapy purple
it is so unfair for people with less luck |
Ork Pride
damnit i payed 1,200g for a deep jade key and all i got was a 100g worth purple item.
Anraeth
please stop saying they are random....
As you all know, nothing that is coded is ever random. The pattern may appear to be random, but in fact it is just a huge pattern.
/pet peeve
As you all know, nothing that is coded is ever random. The pattern may appear to be random, but in fact it is just a huge pattern.
/pet peeve
vojnik
But for the purpose of a game they are random.
(Sure pseudo-random number generators such as those used by most applications wanting random numbers are not truly random, they are random enough for this context if you get what I mean).
Anyway I never use keys anyway, I find I'm always short on cash =p
(Sure pseudo-random number generators such as those used by most applications wanting random numbers are not truly random, they are random enough for this context if you get what I mean).
Anyway I never use keys anyway, I find I'm always short on cash =p
tassadar
i lost my faith in chests after going like 7 purps in a row during the chest weekend
Omega X
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i love the randomness of chests now. i was usually the only person in a chest run group whod open the majority of chests first anyways. that stupid /roll 100 was just so frustrating. by the time everyone would roll [everyone, who am i kidding, there would always be like 2-3 people not rolling] i could have checked another 2 chests. and a major pet peeve of mine, when someone who didnt check a chest would leave right after getting a gold item. the randomness of chests effectively eliminates "leechers" which is, um... awesome.
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The /roll 100 thing sounds like World Of Warcraft. I hate that crap. If you weren't lucky, you weren't lucky. If they are not nice enough to give it to you when they don't really need it then you are playing with the wrong group of people.
/endrant
cataphract
It's not the gold/purple issue that's bugging me, it's the drops. All I seem to get are daggers and ritualist offhands. WTF is with the drops in Elona? Less daggers and ritualist stuff were dropping in Cantha which is the home of classes who need them. I haven't had a spear drop yet. I want a smegging spear!
Perkunas
Prohesies again. Southern Shiverspeak chests are now almost a waste to open. I took 20 keys while capping and mapping. 1 chest of the 20 was gold, the rest purple. My guildmate got 2 golds in 25 keys. Nothing random about that.
Angel Develin
To bad the lucky title does not work on this
Soulstryke
I *still* only get purple items when I open chests so I don't see any difference in whatever code they've added.
Gigashadow
It's effectively random. You are on the same random number generator that everything else in the game is on (well, probably everything else running on that thread, that is).
Vandal2k6
I prefer it like this anyhoo. Figured it out by accident when a guildy got a purple after I got a gold and argued with him that he must've got it wrong.
Sir Skullcrasher
so thats why my guildies said during a chest run to not miss any chests in this area. I thought once it's purple, or gold, it will drop only that kind of color.
Guess, i'll have to buy bunch of keys now.
Guess, i'll have to buy bunch of keys now.
korcan
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The /roll 100 thing sounds like World Of Warcraft. I hate that crap. If you weren't lucky, you weren't lucky. If they are not nice enough to give it to you when they don't really need it then you are playing with the wrong group of people. /endrant |
my previous post was rather ambiguous. what i meant by "open the majority of chests first" was that i wouldnt "/roll 100" but rather just run to the chest and open it on my own. when i run in a group, i try not to "herd up". i found that a lot of chest runners didnt know aggro patterns and such so i would separate from the group and run solo or with a buddy. while i was opening chests, the rest of the group would be "/rolling 100" and by the time they had finished i would already be on my 3rd chest.
Yawgmoth
I think random is worse. The system before at least encouraged teamplay, going with more people was giving an advantage. Now chest running is better done solo (in most cases). Note that this is one of many new updates that encourage solo-play.
There are good sides to it though, like Elonian gold items are going to be a little more rare because of it (but perfect inscriptions and mods are very common and cheap anywyay now) And the keys are now a better money sink - less golds enter the economy per bought keys.
In most chest running groups there were people that were opening first, and dont worry about purples because they were just going for the title and more opened is better. And there was always the /roll method so no problem again.
There are good sides to it though, like Elonian gold items are going to be a little more rare because of it (but perfect inscriptions and mods are very common and cheap anywyay now) And the keys are now a better money sink - less golds enter the economy per bought keys.
In most chest running groups there were people that were opening first, and dont worry about purples because they were just going for the title and more opened is better. And there was always the /roll method so no problem again.
Viruzzz
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please stop saying they are random....
As you all know, nothing that is coded is ever random. The pattern may appear to be random, but in fact it is just a huge pattern. /pet peeve |
infact. nothing in the entire universe is random, its all controlled by physics, what happened/happens/will happen could/can/will not happen in any other way. think about it
korcan
mmm... beer
^ that was pretty random
^ that was pretty random
Bane of Worlds
ever since this update I have only gotten a single gold from over 100 keys so I should proudly display an unlucky title which seems to reflect what I am atm...
MMSDome
i did a total of 4 chests in NF (margonite chests) and I got 2 golds and 2 purples. Chests are gambling and you cant sit there and be mad at the result because you didnt need to buy the key.