Horrible FPS issues since Nightfall release
M1h4iL
Ok so here’s is my problem, I play Guild Wars and this game ran fine on my machine for over a year now. Ever since the expansion (Nightfall) the game has been very laggy. Here is what happens:
I start Guild Wars, and have Fraps in the background, getting around 60 fps
I log on and load into a city, however it takes around 3 full minutes to load, my fps is 0, and the game sits at loading screen, displaying 100% loaded
Once the game loads, my fps is still zero, but raises up to about 50
As soon as I make the slightest move, or open up inventory or move my camera the fps drops to zero
My specs are: 2500xp, 512ram, 6600gt and fast internet. The game has run fine for a year. Other intensive games such as CSS or BF2142 also ran fine, no lag or low fps.
Things I tried:
Installing latest NVIDIA drivers, and trying loading the old ones
Defragging my HDD
Thoroughly checking my machine for spy ware, viruses etc
Using the system restore feature
Tweaking the game settings and a few other minor things
Eventually I found the problem and this is why I am posting in this sub forum. When I run Guild Wars I opened up my Windows Task Manager and see that GW has its priority set to LOW. So I set it to High and the game runs fine for a few seconds with usual fps of 50 and no lag in movement or a sudden drop in fps. Then the game drops fps again and I check the priority setting for GW and it is set to LOW. I have tried it with every setting but it keeps setting it self to LOW as soon as I go into the game, and thus causing the game to run terribly. If I keep the Windows Task Manager open and set the priority to whatever it will stay like I appointed but as soon as I enter the game it goes to LOW. Other games run fine and actually “obey” my priority setting.
So my question, what is the problem here? Why is the priority setting set it self to Low making the game run like a slide show whereas it could run it just fine? Is this an error? I would greatly appreciate ANY help; I am lost here and have no idea how to fix this issue.
Thanks in advance.
I start Guild Wars, and have Fraps in the background, getting around 60 fps
I log on and load into a city, however it takes around 3 full minutes to load, my fps is 0, and the game sits at loading screen, displaying 100% loaded
Once the game loads, my fps is still zero, but raises up to about 50
As soon as I make the slightest move, or open up inventory or move my camera the fps drops to zero
My specs are: 2500xp, 512ram, 6600gt and fast internet. The game has run fine for a year. Other intensive games such as CSS or BF2142 also ran fine, no lag or low fps.
Things I tried:
Installing latest NVIDIA drivers, and trying loading the old ones
Defragging my HDD
Thoroughly checking my machine for spy ware, viruses etc
Using the system restore feature
Tweaking the game settings and a few other minor things
Eventually I found the problem and this is why I am posting in this sub forum. When I run Guild Wars I opened up my Windows Task Manager and see that GW has its priority set to LOW. So I set it to High and the game runs fine for a few seconds with usual fps of 50 and no lag in movement or a sudden drop in fps. Then the game drops fps again and I check the priority setting for GW and it is set to LOW. I have tried it with every setting but it keeps setting it self to LOW as soon as I go into the game, and thus causing the game to run terribly. If I keep the Windows Task Manager open and set the priority to whatever it will stay like I appointed but as soon as I enter the game it goes to LOW. Other games run fine and actually “obey” my priority setting.
So my question, what is the problem here? Why is the priority setting set it self to Low making the game run like a slide show whereas it could run it just fine? Is this an error? I would greatly appreciate ANY help; I am lost here and have no idea how to fix this issue.
Thanks in advance.
Chris616263
You beat me to posting this very same topic.
I tried -everything-. I defragged GW.dat twice even though it was at 1 file before, I defragged my hard drive, ran a quick chkdsk scan, then the long chkdsk scan, even tried some lame software called GameGain (do NOT use this, its garbage).
I even tried to force GW to run in high-priority mode by rightclicking the desktop shortcut, hitting properties, and changing the target to:
and upon running the game and checking it with the Task Manager, it was still set to LOW.
I tried -everything-. I defragged GW.dat twice even though it was at 1 file before, I defragged my hard drive, ran a quick chkdsk scan, then the long chkdsk scan, even tried some lame software called GameGain (do NOT use this, its garbage).
I even tried to force GW to run in high-priority mode by rightclicking the desktop shortcut, hitting properties, and changing the target to:
Code:
C:\WINDOWS\system32\cmd.exe /c start "Guild Wars" /high "C:\Program Files\Guild Wars\Gw.exe"
Coolniceronguy
Thank you to the OP for posting this. I noticed this issue a couple weeks ago, and forgot to bring it up on the forums.
I agree, I have tried all the things the OP was saying, yet the priority is reset to low. Having a high priority seems to improve frame rate, and gameplay.
I agree, I have tried all the things the OP was saying, yet the priority is reset to low. Having a high priority seems to improve frame rate, and gameplay.
poozle
Its been like this for at LEAST 6 months because I noticed it a while back. I don't know why it does it but it is very annoying.
Truthfull healer
I noticed exactly the same problem. When i set the priority to High it sinks back to normal and than back to low.
Can anyone help me/us with this problem.
Can anyone help me/us with this problem.
awesome sauce
Same problem here. It definitely seems like it should be at medium at least.
kirby2096
Time to get the ANet devs involved I think. Give us a fix quick! (please)
Slainster
symptoms described are exactly the same for me too... it gets really frustrating when things finally load, and my guildies have already completed there shopping etc any input for this would be great..
Gorebrex
Ive never had any loading problems like whats described, but I just looked in Task Manager, and my GW is also set to "Low". No idea why, changed it to Normal, then exited manager, will look at it again a little later, see if it changes.
DutchGun
GW runs in normal priority mode (which applications are supposed to). It only runs in low priority when it doesn't have focus (which is when people typically look at the priority list). You can confirm this for yourself by running in windowed mode, then opening the task list (and adding priority of the list of items to watch).
Since this window always stays on top, you can now select and deselect GW to see how it dynamically manages it's priority.
Since this window always stays on top, you can now select and deselect GW to see how it dynamically manages it's priority.
moriz
GW.exe will always be listed as "low" priority, because as soon as you minimizes it, it automatically sets itself as "low". that's just its built in mechanism for saving system resources. if you maximize it, it will return to normal.
unfortunately, you'll never actually see it do this.
unfortunately, you'll never actually see it do this.
kaya
create a .bat file using notepad.
type: cmd /c start /High gw.exe
save as: "gw.bat"
load the game like with this file, and it should keep gw always at a high priority.
Now that I've done this, I tested it and noticed that even using this .bat file to open gw, the task manager still displays the prority as low when not in gw, and normal when in gw. I will have to do some more testing to see if this method actually increases gameplay speed or not. If it does, then it's probably just an reading error with the task manager. If it doesn't then we probably need the dev's to figure out why its overriding our command.
type: cmd /c start /High gw.exe
save as: "gw.bat"
load the game like with this file, and it should keep gw always at a high priority.
Now that I've done this, I tested it and noticed that even using this .bat file to open gw, the task manager still displays the prority as low when not in gw, and normal when in gw. I will have to do some more testing to see if this method actually increases gameplay speed or not. If it does, then it's probably just an reading error with the task manager. If it doesn't then we probably need the dev's to figure out why its overriding our command.
Dark vengeeeance
Heres something that might answer.. this... question....
Guild Wars DOES run on normal, even if you cant see it, I have been able to see it though, just set Task Manager to be ON TOP window mode.
Switch to i.e winamp/explorer. Click the "Set priority" thing on task manager for GW. Its low.
Now switch to gw, make SURE task manager is on top and switch to gw, now do the same in task manager, try to set priority and you will see that its Normal. If you done it right..
This isnt something that they will fix or get a "patch" for. Its something that will make it better for the players and their gear.
So changing and stuff in the data files of guildwars is unnessesary since it is MENT to be this way. And changing in gw data files might screw up your game. Asking for a patch to "fix" this is also not necessary since this is a smart thing gw has.. instead of sitting here writing with huge lag, even if your computer rocks, we all prefer that gw is on low while we do it, dont we.
Guild Wars DOES run on normal, even if you cant see it, I have been able to see it though, just set Task Manager to be ON TOP window mode.
Switch to i.e winamp/explorer. Click the "Set priority" thing on task manager for GW. Its low.
Now switch to gw, make SURE task manager is on top and switch to gw, now do the same in task manager, try to set priority and you will see that its Normal. If you done it right..
This isnt something that they will fix or get a "patch" for. Its something that will make it better for the players and their gear.
So changing and stuff in the data files of guildwars is unnessesary since it is MENT to be this way. And changing in gw data files might screw up your game. Asking for a patch to "fix" this is also not necessary since this is a smart thing gw has.. instead of sitting here writing with huge lag, even if your computer rocks, we all prefer that gw is on low while we do it, dont we.
DutchGun
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chop it Off
i would rather a cure to this lag then have it switch priority when not in view.
why? cause i didnt have a problem before. with nf, i do. |
Dark V is correct - this is nothing that needs fixing. If you're having framerate issues, then it's likely some issue with graphics, since those are new and improved (thus stressing the video card in ways it hasn't been before). Or, it could be sound, although I don't think the audio system has really changed - but they are probably playing more sounds than before simultaneously.
M1h4iL
Thanks for the replies guys, didn't expect so many replies and people suffering form the same “problem”, I am kind of glad though, I thought I was the only one.
I agree with the people who say that GW sets it self to LOW when you minimize it, so that you can perform other tasks. I ran the game in windowed mode, set to high priority, but you can see in the Windows task manager the game sets it self to Normal, which is inadequate to play the game normally and still causes massive FPS issues and very jerky movement, a slideshow.
I should also mention that this FPS issue has begun on the NF preview event, which started out ok but after 2 hours in started lagging. Ever since then the game had low fps and sudden fps drops when you turn or move. On two occasions the game was normal, first time I changed my video settings, worked normal for half a day then begun to have fps issues again, and second time when I set the priority mode to high, also worked normal for a few hours than back to slideshow mode.
This fps issue occurs everywhere, Tyria, Cantha and any PVP, not just in NF. Even after the NF preview I had fps issues playing in Tyria. I have resorted to only playing PVE, hoping the game would be fixed, I assumed it was on “their end” not mine. PVP is slideshow and by the time I load into a map it is already over. PVE also lags and takes 3 minutes to load but at least its playable to some degree. In PVE when I zone, the pc lags but eventually gets “used” to the game and is quite playable with around 50 fps, however sudden fps drop outs do occasionally happen, in particular during the first fight with a mob.
I have sent the same question as I first posted to Anet support team, and got a pretty good response I thought. It talks about running DirectX Diagnostic Tool and using Hijackthis. I have heard of Hijackthis before, but luckily never had to use it, basically it analyses how, when, where and what your machine does while doing something. Both suggestions make sense and after finishing writing this up I will send in my results to Anet.
Here is the speedy response I got from Anet, for those interested in trying to fix the problem I am having.
Subject
Set Priority" problem, Automatically sets to "Low"
Discussion Thread
Response (Hayden)
Hello Misha,
The Windows Task manager setting the priority to low has always been a side effect of whetever is cause the slow down of the game. I'd like you to send us the DxDiag.txt file created when running a report within DirectX. This may give us some more information as to why you are having this problem.
To do this,
- Click Start -> Run
- Type 'DxDiag' in the box and click OK.
While you are in the DirectX Diagnostic Tool,
- Click "Save All Information". This will ask where you would like the DxDiag.txt file saved. Remember where you save it so that you can find it later to send to us.
- Add this DxDiag.txt file to your response when you write us back.
And I'd like you to run a program called Hijackthis. It will allow us to see what application may be the cause of this issue.
Download the program Hijackthis from here:
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=3155
Once you choose a link to download from be sure to check the top of the next page as the middle of it will be taken up by an add that has nothing to do with Hijackthis.
Run it and send us a copy of the log it produces.
Thank you.
The Guild Wars Support Team
I will update this thread as to what is happening, what replies I got and whether I fixed the problem so that those with the same problem can fix it.
I agree with the people who say that GW sets it self to LOW when you minimize it, so that you can perform other tasks. I ran the game in windowed mode, set to high priority, but you can see in the Windows task manager the game sets it self to Normal, which is inadequate to play the game normally and still causes massive FPS issues and very jerky movement, a slideshow.
I should also mention that this FPS issue has begun on the NF preview event, which started out ok but after 2 hours in started lagging. Ever since then the game had low fps and sudden fps drops when you turn or move. On two occasions the game was normal, first time I changed my video settings, worked normal for half a day then begun to have fps issues again, and second time when I set the priority mode to high, also worked normal for a few hours than back to slideshow mode.
This fps issue occurs everywhere, Tyria, Cantha and any PVP, not just in NF. Even after the NF preview I had fps issues playing in Tyria. I have resorted to only playing PVE, hoping the game would be fixed, I assumed it was on “their end” not mine. PVP is slideshow and by the time I load into a map it is already over. PVE also lags and takes 3 minutes to load but at least its playable to some degree. In PVE when I zone, the pc lags but eventually gets “used” to the game and is quite playable with around 50 fps, however sudden fps drop outs do occasionally happen, in particular during the first fight with a mob.
I have sent the same question as I first posted to Anet support team, and got a pretty good response I thought. It talks about running DirectX Diagnostic Tool and using Hijackthis. I have heard of Hijackthis before, but luckily never had to use it, basically it analyses how, when, where and what your machine does while doing something. Both suggestions make sense and after finishing writing this up I will send in my results to Anet.
Here is the speedy response I got from Anet, for those interested in trying to fix the problem I am having.
Subject
Set Priority" problem, Automatically sets to "Low"
Discussion Thread
Response (Hayden)
Hello Misha,
The Windows Task manager setting the priority to low has always been a side effect of whetever is cause the slow down of the game. I'd like you to send us the DxDiag.txt file created when running a report within DirectX. This may give us some more information as to why you are having this problem.
To do this,
- Click Start -> Run
- Type 'DxDiag' in the box and click OK.
While you are in the DirectX Diagnostic Tool,
- Click "Save All Information". This will ask where you would like the DxDiag.txt file saved. Remember where you save it so that you can find it later to send to us.
- Add this DxDiag.txt file to your response when you write us back.
And I'd like you to run a program called Hijackthis. It will allow us to see what application may be the cause of this issue.
Download the program Hijackthis from here:
http://www.majorgeeks.com/download.php?det=3155
Once you choose a link to download from be sure to check the top of the next page as the middle of it will be taken up by an add that has nothing to do with Hijackthis.
Run it and send us a copy of the log it produces.
Thank you.
The Guild Wars Support Team
I will update this thread as to what is happening, what replies I got and whether I fixed the problem so that those with the same problem can fix it.
Arcador
Unfortunatelly I got such problem too. Even I put the graphics on LOWEST possible mode - when I am static - it is above 100 fps, but when I try to move...the hard begins to cry. Tryied to increase swap file, alocate more and more ram (since most of the times hard disk "cry" is connected with less ram"
But well...the problem remains.
Defraging gw.dat file also helped my fps, but again - only when NOT moving.
I will get repeative but informative - In large towns I get the same choppy stuff. In PvE I got it only when loading area (first 1-2 mins). In PvP I get it constantly. It is a d4mn non playable.
This problem is since factions, but it actually stoped when I allocated 1000 mb swap file. In NF this does not seem to help :/
Interesting thing: FPS drop is only shown on external FPS program. Using the ingame FPS monitor f10+shift, does not "register" the huge fps drops I see, it drops down to 30 max, when I and external programs see it is 0.
I will also send a ticket but not today. (my isp seem to have route problems to the gw servers which also brings "pressure" on me).
I hope things will get resolved soon
But well...the problem remains.
Defraging gw.dat file also helped my fps, but again - only when NOT moving.
I will get repeative but informative - In large towns I get the same choppy stuff. In PvE I got it only when loading area (first 1-2 mins). In PvP I get it constantly. It is a d4mn non playable.
This problem is since factions, but it actually stoped when I allocated 1000 mb swap file. In NF this does not seem to help :/
Interesting thing: FPS drop is only shown on external FPS program. Using the ingame FPS monitor f10+shift, does not "register" the huge fps drops I see, it drops down to 30 max, when I and external programs see it is 0.
I will also send a ticket but not today. (my isp seem to have route problems to the gw servers which also brings "pressure" on me).
I hope things will get resolved soon
Dazzler
I've noticed that things are slow in Nightfall areas, but if I go back to older areas or RA for example, things are faster.
I can only assume that NF is chock full of newer and better effects or high poly-count terrain which is causing some of the slowdown. Time for me to upgrade my video card. I'm liking the looks of those new ATI x1950 PRO AGP coming out. Should make a great replacement for my aging Radeon 9600XT which gets me between 5-15 fps in the Nightfall areas (20+ fps in the older areas).
I can only assume that NF is chock full of newer and better effects or high poly-count terrain which is causing some of the slowdown. Time for me to upgrade my video card. I'm liking the looks of those new ATI x1950 PRO AGP coming out. Should make a great replacement for my aging Radeon 9600XT which gets me between 5-15 fps in the Nightfall areas (20+ fps in the older areas).
Rakeris
I have the same problem, it doesn't make me lag at all, but a friend of mine has a crappy PC and it really hurts him.
Arcador
Well, I figured my part of the problem - it was pretty stupid thing you know.
I was on FAT32 format and my GW.dat was very close to 4 gb thus every time trying to load something new - bloadting with failure and I got a choppy performance.
NF makes your .dat at if not 4+ gb at least close to that and I think GW uses it for some kind of own swap ? (or maybe not)
After converting to NTFS I got a little slowdown only at the begining and smooth playing almost all the time (big cities are a little slow, but this is cause of the tons of players) My pvp is good again.
So althou sounds silly - check your system and if not - convert it on NTFS.
I was on FAT32 format and my GW.dat was very close to 4 gb thus every time trying to load something new - bloadting with failure and I got a choppy performance.
NF makes your .dat at if not 4+ gb at least close to that and I think GW uses it for some kind of own swap ? (or maybe not)
After converting to NTFS I got a little slowdown only at the begining and smooth playing almost all the time (big cities are a little slow, but this is cause of the tons of players) My pvp is good again.
So althou sounds silly - check your system and if not - convert it on NTFS.
Arcador
Hmm...another issue might be, but not sure - try running the game with -image command. That way the game will download all its files before starting - which might take very long. I friend of mine told me that he got no problems since he downloaded a big chunk of files.
If you ask me this must not be a problem. Let's hope the tech support guy finds a clue soon.
If you ask me this must not be a problem. Let's hope the tech support guy finds a clue soon.
M1h4iL
Where do you put the command?
Also heres the reply I got from Anet support team:
Hello Misha,
These entries have been positively identified as malicious programs. In the HijackThis program, place a check mark next to the following entries.
R3 - URLSearchHook: (no name) - {E84DE88B-2633-5DBC-14F4-76E297042392} - (no file)
(Description: An unknown URL Search Hook.)
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {A9AB9FCD-088E-42C3-99E2-8B990C870ED8} - (no file)
(Description: A hidden or missing adware entry.)
1) Press the "Fix checked" button. Then close HijackThis.
2) Then reboot your computer.
3) Empty your recycle bin.
4) Run Windows Update and install all critical updates.
5) Make sure your anti-virus program is up to date with the latest patches. If you do not have an anti-virus program, download and install AVG Personal Edition Anti-Virus, which is free.
6) Reboot one last time.
I also noticed you had quite a few programs running in the background, these could be using system resources that could be used by Guild Wars instead. Please disable all startup items to make sure that no background programs or processes are causing this problem. To do this, click on the Start button, select Run, type MSCONFIG and click OK. This should open the System Configuration Utility. Click on the Startup tab and make sure that ALL entries listed are unchecked. Then click on the Services tab and select Hide All Microsoft Services, then click on Disable All. Once that is done, clicking either OK or Apply should prompt you to restart your computer, which you should do before attempting to play the game again. Do not start any other programs and then try the game again. Please let us know if this helps.
Regards,
Guild Wars Technical Support
Did everything listed, no change. I would like to remind everyone that this lag is happening everywhere, Tyria, Cantha, not just NF.
Also heres the reply I got from Anet support team:
Hello Misha,
These entries have been positively identified as malicious programs. In the HijackThis program, place a check mark next to the following entries.
R3 - URLSearchHook: (no name) - {E84DE88B-2633-5DBC-14F4-76E297042392} - (no file)
(Description: An unknown URL Search Hook.)
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {A9AB9FCD-088E-42C3-99E2-8B990C870ED8} - (no file)
(Description: A hidden or missing adware entry.)
1) Press the "Fix checked" button. Then close HijackThis.
2) Then reboot your computer.
3) Empty your recycle bin.
4) Run Windows Update and install all critical updates.
5) Make sure your anti-virus program is up to date with the latest patches. If you do not have an anti-virus program, download and install AVG Personal Edition Anti-Virus, which is free.
6) Reboot one last time.
I also noticed you had quite a few programs running in the background, these could be using system resources that could be used by Guild Wars instead. Please disable all startup items to make sure that no background programs or processes are causing this problem. To do this, click on the Start button, select Run, type MSCONFIG and click OK. This should open the System Configuration Utility. Click on the Startup tab and make sure that ALL entries listed are unchecked. Then click on the Services tab and select Hide All Microsoft Services, then click on Disable All. Once that is done, clicking either OK or Apply should prompt you to restart your computer, which you should do before attempting to play the game again. Do not start any other programs and then try the game again. Please let us know if this helps.
Regards,
Guild Wars Technical Support
Did everything listed, no change. I would like to remind everyone that this lag is happening everywhere, Tyria, Cantha, not just NF.
Rakeris
Yeah like some have said before as well as I. It seems for some reason windows or guildwars is setting it's self to "Low" priority. Which for people on it seems lower end PCs causes quite a few problems. As a friend of mine has been having horrible problems latly, sometimes it takes him 5-10 minutes to load a zone. Where it was always longer than me before, but never by that much.
awesome sauce
1 GB ddr2
x800xl 256mb
athlon 64 3400+
200Gb 7200 rpm HD
I have problems with some with minor lag/missed steps in major towns, too. But, every computer I have ever seen run GW has had this type of problem. I think it's because the engine tries to reduce load times by loading only the essential stuff first, and then the non-essential stuff while you are walking around (I.E., other people). The fact that you run GW on 1920 by 1200 doesnt help this either, chop it off. Regardless, I think its unavoidable.
x800xl 256mb
athlon 64 3400+
200Gb 7200 rpm HD
I have problems with some with minor lag/missed steps in major towns, too. But, every computer I have ever seen run GW has had this type of problem. I think it's because the engine tries to reduce load times by loading only the essential stuff first, and then the non-essential stuff while you are walking around (I.E., other people). The fact that you run GW on 1920 by 1200 doesnt help this either, chop it off. Regardless, I think its unavoidable.
Ferris
Im getting low fps as well: 5-10 FPS in town. I have friends that play NightFalls and Guild wars with no problem.
Pentium 4 3.2Ghz
512Mb Ram
Geforce 256Mb 6600- 93.71 drivers
Foxconn 915G7AC motherboard
Direct x 9.0c (october release)
5Mb Cable connection
Windows XP Home Edition
Pentium 4 3.2Ghz
512Mb Ram
Geforce 256Mb 6600- 93.71 drivers
Foxconn 915G7AC motherboard
Direct x 9.0c (october release)
5Mb Cable connection
Windows XP Home Edition
Keilious Ahruhk
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10072069
Try this, ie. turn off your hardware sound acceleration
Try this, ie. turn off your hardware sound acceleration
l)l2UNl(
well i can tell you that it is not your systems causing this unless you got piece of junk for a machine cause GW is very flexible when it comes to sys. specs.
for me the prob fixed itself...
i was playing a while and then the fps just jumped back up again. i also lowered the sound accel and this helped it by about 5-10 fps
for me the prob fixed itself...
i was playing a while and then the fps just jumped back up again. i also lowered the sound accel and this helped it by about 5-10 fps
Cherrie
I had exactly the same problem, but my spaces were a lot worse...
M1h4iL, you might consider buying some more RAM. I also heard that lowering sound quality both in GW and in system helps. I haven't tried it because I simply bought new CPU and MB (from Celeron 1.8 and gf 6600 running on 4 agp to amd 3500 64bit - which is near 2.8 p4 i htink - and 8 agp for my gc change was MAJOR - I dont have any problems with performance atm; RAM stayed at 1gb).
Annother issue is your connection. You might have fast net but maybe there are problems with connection to GW servers. If it is so, the TCP/IP requires more time from your CPU if packages are lost (to send them again, to organise recived, to check which were lost etc etc - TCP/IP doesnt accept any losage of packages). For me, it worked like that: system had minimum reqs to run Nightfall so CPU was busy and couldnt manage packages right => many were lost => servers asked CPU for even more time to send the lost packages => CPU had even less time => less FPS, more packages lost.... In other words, lag makes your lag worse, its a circle...
M1h4iL, you might consider buying some more RAM. I also heard that lowering sound quality both in GW and in system helps. I haven't tried it because I simply bought new CPU and MB (from Celeron 1.8 and gf 6600 running on 4 agp to amd 3500 64bit - which is near 2.8 p4 i htink - and 8 agp for my gc change was MAJOR - I dont have any problems with performance atm; RAM stayed at 1gb).
Annother issue is your connection. You might have fast net but maybe there are problems with connection to GW servers. If it is so, the TCP/IP requires more time from your CPU if packages are lost (to send them again, to organise recived, to check which were lost etc etc - TCP/IP doesnt accept any losage of packages). For me, it worked like that: system had minimum reqs to run Nightfall so CPU was busy and couldnt manage packages right => many were lost => servers asked CPU for even more time to send the lost packages => CPU had even less time => less FPS, more packages lost.... In other words, lag makes your lag worse, its a circle...
bizarresk
"amd 3500 64bit - which is near 2.8 p4 i htink"
P4 2.8ghz is not even close to Athlon 64 3500+
P4 2.8ghz is not even close to Athlon 64 3500+
aaronsgh
1. try disabling directsong if u have it installed/used it before.... directsong causes massive FPS loss for me somehow.
2. lowering your soundhardware acceration slider in windows to zero.
3. also, a dedicated soundcard helps a lot..
2. lowering your soundhardware acceration slider in windows to zero.
3. also, a dedicated soundcard helps a lot..
gesztenyi
Same thing here.
I always had crappy fps (5-12) but since NF (especially the last update) it's unbearable. My screen freezes for 30-40 seconds and takes 2-3 minutes to load to an outpost (-image was done).
It annoys me since GW is pretty much unplayable:S
I always had crappy fps (5-12) but since NF (especially the last update) it's unbearable. My screen freezes for 30-40 seconds and takes 2-3 minutes to load to an outpost (-image was done).
It annoys me since GW is pretty much unplayable:S
Drakkenauken
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Originally Posted by aaronsgh
1. try disabling directsong if u have it installed/used it before.... directsong causes massive FPS loss for me somehow.
2. lowering your soundhardware acceration slider in windows to zero. 3. also, a dedicated soundcard helps a lot.. |
Drakkenauken
http://www.directsong.com/support/he...view.asp?ID=37
How to disable DS in GW
How to disable DS in GW
Dazzler
Last night I disabled DirectSong by following the instructions in the link above and my frame-rates in Nightfall went from <10fps to >20fps. I am much happier now.
misfire200
Well i am lucky enough to have two computers that run guild wars. One (The one i preferred to play on) was experiencing the same issues as M1h4iL was experiencing; however, my laptop(wierd heh?) played it just fine with no lag, no long loads, no first battle lag, etc and it was running through a wireless connection. Did not make sense and for the most part definitely ruled out lag being server based. The only time the laptop would lag would be when loading into the major city zones(kaineng, kamadan) and only when they were extremely busy. However, first off i ran hijack this, and did a virus scan, also used contig to get my frags down to 4/1 on the file, -image, etc, etc. After all that my main computer would still have major lag going into cities, first battle lag, etc. Laptop still was running perfectly, so i decided i would try to emulate as much of my laptop as possible which required making sure they were running to a certain degree the same programs. And the part that helped the most was opening up services.msc via the run command. Here i matched my laptop to the best possible degree. Made sure everything was good, opened Guild Wars and voila!, no lag, no first battle lag, and was running on the highest graphics settings.
Now to be perfectly clear, i would not go fiddling around with your services.msc without knowing a little bit about what you are doing, and what not to disable, and what is necessary for your particulary system. However, i do find it is not coincidence that by making the computers match in certain areas it fixed the problem, which means somewhere you have something running or disabled that is possibly causing the lagginess effect in Guild Wars. A site i would recommend is The Elder Geek which tells you pretty much everything and recommendations on each service running. If you would like some help please send me a message or an email and i will do my best, not every system will be the same; however, some services are required and some can interfere.
I can also offer the list of services i am running, disabled, and in manual, etc, etc; however even with that i would recommend comparing the to the list on elder geek to make sure you do not want to disable certain ones. This may or may not fix your problem but it might or get you a step closer. Let me know if you would like my help. Thanks.
Now to be perfectly clear, i would not go fiddling around with your services.msc without knowing a little bit about what you are doing, and what not to disable, and what is necessary for your particulary system. However, i do find it is not coincidence that by making the computers match in certain areas it fixed the problem, which means somewhere you have something running or disabled that is possibly causing the lagginess effect in Guild Wars. A site i would recommend is The Elder Geek which tells you pretty much everything and recommendations on each service running. If you would like some help please send me a message or an email and i will do my best, not every system will be the same; however, some services are required and some can interfere.
I can also offer the list of services i am running, disabled, and in manual, etc, etc; however even with that i would recommend comparing the to the list on elder geek to make sure you do not want to disable certain ones. This may or may not fix your problem but it might or get you a step closer. Let me know if you would like my help. Thanks.
M1h4iL
An update on my situation, the problem has been fixed. I followed the advice of Anet staff: I updated my windows with IE 7.0 (the only "important" windows update I could download) installed an AVG Antivirus (free) and deleted two entries in Hijackthis. I sent in the log made by hijackthis and Anet staff found 2 "malicious" entries, which I deleted. Anyhow, after I have done these three steps, as well as fragment my hdd, update my graphics drivers, ran all my spy ware removers (spybot: search and destroy, ad-aware, etc) the problem was still there, GW still had massive FPS issues. So I decided that what I have done and all the steps I followed were useless. BUT, the next day, GW started to perform better, with some fps lag here and there, and still taking 1 minute to load. Day after that, GW worked FINE, no fps lag, 10 second load times, just like it was before NF.
My advice to those who have FPS lag, even on very capable machines, send in a report to GW support, tell them what is happening, specs of your PC and other necessary details. Once they request you to run hijackthis and other updates and tweaks, hopefully GW will work fine for you, it did for me, after trying EVERYTHING, (except a full reformat). Good luck.
My advice to those who have FPS lag, even on very capable machines, send in a report to GW support, tell them what is happening, specs of your PC and other necessary details. Once they request you to run hijackthis and other updates and tweaks, hopefully GW will work fine for you, it did for me, after trying EVERYTHING, (except a full reformat). Good luck.