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08 Nov 2006 at 13:53 - 41

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It was already there before NF was released.

Also, if you get a so-called perfect gold with the 'precious' inscription and you don't want to risk the salvage, overwrite it with something else.

sif argue with me Cunning :P

I mean it was fine as part of a weapon, but as a seperate 'removable' inscription, it's bad. Silly, even. It wasn't often that you got rares with Precious or Highly Salvageable anyway, so wasn't that big a deal.

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08 Nov 2006 at 14:02 - 42

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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

Dear heavens, if I see the word "Nerf" one more time, I'm gonna kick a wall! (Well, in a delicate and oh-so-ladylike manner, of course!

) The team comes up with a cool new set of inscriptions and somebody's complaining?!

Honestly, some days I just despair!

Read the ideas in this thread. Some of you "get it," and can see the value of these cool new inscriptions (and their parallel in the other regions). Good job on figuring it out. And thank you for gently showing the truth to the "nerf-sayers!"

NERF!!! Nah, just kidding. I don't really get the point of these new inscriptions though. Like if it's precious, why would you salvage it? Why just not sell it to merchant? Or, is it if you salvage it, the item still keeps its value and you can add it to other item, thus increasing the value of the item it was added on? And highly salvageable??? You salvage the item for materials if it says highly salvageable, why would you want to get an inscription out of it, add it on another item and destroy it? I mean, great job on adding new stuff to the game, I'm really happy about that, adds more fun to play, but I don't think this stuff is useful...

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08 Nov 2006 at 14:02 - 43

What is with all the whining all the darn time???? Do you people have nothing better to do? For crying out loud these stats are in the other games, you have to expect that will have their equivilent (sp?) insigs in NF!

I for one like these little 'useless' things. That 100 extra gold (or whatever the amount is) for the precious insig is 100g in my damn pocket! Yeah, you're going 'pfft 100g, chunk change' tell that to new people that are scraping to buy armor. have you ever been like 25 gold short to buy that last piece of armor, or that last dye? i'm sure many of you have at one time or another; well heres a way to put some extra gold in your pocket without farming extensively! 100g ten times adds up, theres 1 plat people.

highly salavagable, heck yes! ill take anything that will give me more materials so i dont have to buy the darn things. especially if its rare materials! you need a material? have one of these inscriptions? toss it on something you know will give you that material (and guess what you can look up this info if you dont know it off the top of your head!) and salvage away! this is also a way to make and SAVE money. got a bunch of extra common materials? craft it into rares! its cheaper than buying the rares! (sometimes) got a bunch of extra materials? sell it to another player.

think people think! stop complaining and use your head! Gaile has the right to be upset condering the number of 'whine' threads around here!

Myria

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08 Nov 2006 at 14:20 - 44

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Originally Posted by Ebony Shadowheart

What is with all the whining all the darn time???? Do you people have nothing better to do?

You do realize that the same could be asked of those who whine about percieved whining, right?

The OP asks a question -- "So is this really a nerf or will something useful come out of it?" -- and gets three pages of people whining about his daring to ask the question when a simple and polite answer would have sufficed nicely.

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Gaile has the right to be upset condering the number of 'whine' threads around here!

Ummm... Why? If such threads are a personal afront to Ms. Gray then perhaps she's in the wrong business. I suspect they're not, though, her upset is just a useful, and, bizarrely, clearly a highly successful, tactic. Neither she nor the game were attacked by the OP, yet her defenders are out in force.

makosi

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08 Nov 2006 at 14:30 - 45

Just out of curioisty, what are 'precious' weapons in comparison to ordinary weapons? I know that 'Highly Salvageable' means that you'll get a bunch more materials when you salvage the item compared to a non-Highly Salvageable item.

Also, if I add a "Measure for Measure" to Jeweled or Ruby Daggers, will it increase my chace of getting a gem?

Clone

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08 Nov 2006 at 14:39 - 46

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Originally Posted by Myria

If such threads are a personal afront to Ms. Gray then perhaps she's in the wrong business. I suspect they're not, though, her upset is just a useful, and, bizarrely, clearly a highly successful, tactic. Neither she nor the game were attacked by the OP, yet her defenders are out in force.

Indeed. I think she and other Anet staff are well aware of the things like the AI nerfs that frustrate far more people. (Yeah, I said it. Start kicking.) As for this one, my only problem with it would be the game is getting too heavy on pop culture references. You're gonna remind me of that scientologist nut every time I want to take something to the merchant?

Ebony Shadowheart

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08 Nov 2006 at 14:40 - 47

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Originally Posted by Myria

You do realize that the same could be asked of those who whine about percieved whining, right?

Yes, however in this case I am simply asking a perfectly legit question because to me it does seem like many people are doing exactly that, whining, about these new items.

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The OP asks a question -- "So is this really a nerf or will something useful come out of it?" -- and gets three pages of people whining about his daring to ask the question when a simple and polite answer would have sufficed nicely.

And I wasn't referring to the OP specifically. I was referring to people in general as there does seem to be a lot of whining (as I stated above) lol.

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Ummm... Why? If such threads are a personal afront to Ms. Gray then perhaps she's in the wrong business. I suspect they're not, though, her upset is just a useful, and, bizarrely, clearly a highly successful, tactic. Neither she nor the game were attacked by the OP, yet her defenders are out in force.

Again, not referencing the OP directly. However, it is Gaile's job to make sure the customers (us, the players) are happy, to listen to us, but no one ever seems to point out the good things about the game. So many people nit pick and complain about this or that, that I have to wonder how the game could possibly be fun for them to play.

I'm sure if you had to listen to complain ALL the time, it would grate on your nerves too.

My point here is that people (again not referencing the OP specifically) shouldn't be so quick to holler 'nerf' or 'more useless shit' or whatever. Normally there are reasons that things are done, and usually you can figure it out if you just sit down and think about it. If the new item/feature doesn't do anything for you, move on. Theres no point in whining about it.

Alleji

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08 Nov 2006 at 14:49 - 48

At least this clears up my question as to what these new inscriptions were. When I saw the update, I went to the unlocks screen and was mildly surprised to not see the new inscriptions there... so I assumed that anet did a routine screwup with their update and will soon "fix the bugs introduced in the previous update" (and introduce a bug that breaks HA again)

But really... lol @ all the complaining about a change that doesn't actually do anything, except make things more consistent.

Myria

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08 Nov 2006 at 15:12 - 49

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Originally Posted by Ebony Shadowheart

Yes, however in this case I am simply asking a perfectly legit question because to me it does seem like many people are doing exactly that, whining, about these new items.

A matter of perception, I suppose. It has long been my perception that in general, and especially on these boards, whining about whining generally exceeds actual whining by at least an order of magnitude.

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However, it is Gaile's job to make sure the customers (us, the players) are happy, to listen to us, but no one ever seems to point out the good things about the game.

Forgive me, but signs of any logical connection between the two halves of that sentence wholly escape me.

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So many people nit pick and complain about this or that, that I have to wonder how the game could possibly be fun for them to play.

It's quite possible to enjoy something greatly, but wish for improvement.

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I'm sure if you had to listen to complain ALL the time, it would grate on your nerves too.

I used to run a semiconductor manufacturing plant. Between employees, suppliers, government on all levels, customers, and corp HQ, I did little save listen to people complain. Grate on my nerves? To be sure, and in a major sorta way, but professionalism demanded that I deal with those complaints and not take that frustration out on others. When, after some years, my frustration got too great, I quit and took up a much less stressful occupation.

Many (most?) jobs are frustrating. Many (most?) jobs involve listening to lots of complaints. Neither of those things are unique to any given job, nor are they an excuse for much of anything.

WhiteZombie

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08 Nov 2006 at 15:23 - 50

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

Only problem is that it's very rare for crappu blues to have an inscription. They most often appear on purples and golds, which makes them very rare.

are you serious? i always get inscriptions on blues, and theyre always 'too much information' or that one that reduces cast time of spells by ~10%, always!

Jetdoc

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08 Nov 2006 at 15:25 - 51

I posted this in another thread...

The new inscriptions are not really meant for transfer - they are there to "block out" the other inscriptions that are available, much like in Prophecies and Factions.

In other words, it was impossible to have a 15>50 sword that was precious or highly salvageable in the previous chapters. This makes that exclusion also apply in Nightfall.

Karmaniac

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08 Nov 2006 at 15:32 - 52

While I agree with Miss Gray I also believe the GW community has all the reason to be a little paranoid with every update. However the word 'nerf' should be used sparingly IMO.

On the topic discussed:Am I missing something but the show me the money seems a bit pointless. Measure for measure can be used the way described but I find little use for that precious inscription. Added 100g value is exactly the same when applied to white or gold weapon. Or is the system more complex than this?

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08 Nov 2006 at 15:34 - 53

i salvaged a "show me the money" just to see the value. it droped the sell price of the item i took it from. i added it to a couple blues to see, yeah, its around 100 gold or so. My advice step 1: see show me the money............................ step 2: merch and go....step 3: smile

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08 Nov 2006 at 15:40 - 54

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Originally Posted by Myria

A matter of perception, I suppose. It has long been my perception that in general, and especially on these boards, whining about whining generally exceeds actual whining by at least an order of magnitude.

Difference in opinion; which we are both entitled to, but you have not seen me truly whine yet.

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Forgive me, but signs of any logical connection between the two halves of that sentence wholly escape me.

i'm not normally logical, to be quite honest, so if you can't grasp where im coming from, thats fine. i've grow used to confusing people regularly.

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It's quite possible to enjoy something greatly, but wish for improvement.

I can agree with this statement as there are things I think could be improved in the game. Yet, there is a difference between nit picking something because its not to talored to your tastes specifically and offering a polite suggestion based on your opinion.

example 1: 'i want firestorm removed from the game because its stupid and useless and no one can use it right' -> whining

example 2: 'i feel firestorm should be removed from the game as it presents no useful function. due to the relatively low damage output overall and the AoE scatter affect, this skill has been rendered unusable' -> constuctive suggestion.

anyway, my original point was that if you enjoy something, yes you will pick out things that you feel might be better if they were improved, but you arent going to continuously pick out the flaws; you arent going to look specifically for them. people that do that arent playing the game for fun, they are playing so they can have something to bitch about. unless of course they are being paid to play and find those flaws, but that is something entirely different.

zelira

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08 Nov 2006 at 15:52 - 55

It caught me by suprise when I had a show me the money inscription, however I got over it and did what I usually do to precious mods. I walked over to the merchant and sold it. It's not a nerf, they're just adding back 2 inscriptions to Nightfall that were in prophecies and factions. Although it was funny watching people try to sell the inscription for 100k when it adds 100g to your weapon's value.

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08 Nov 2006 at 16:07 - 56

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Originally Posted by makosi

Just out of curioisty, what are 'precious' weapons in comparison to ordinary weapons? I know that 'Highly Salvageable' means that you'll get a bunch more materials when you salvage the item compared to a non-Highly Salvageable item.

All "precious" means is, for some unknown-to-adventurers reason, the merchant is willing to pay significantly more for an otherwise rather worthless weapon. Dunno, maybe the merch's actually collecting the stuff

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08 Nov 2006 at 16:50 - 57

I personally think Anet should have a skill called nerf that causes all sorts of crazy things to happen to your skills or spells >_> Kinda like black out but better!

Nothing has really changed other than its more common and it's gone from Precious to Show Me the Money or Highly Salvagable to Measure for Measure... It doesn't really change anything imo.

Hand of Shiva

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08 Nov 2006 at 17:15 - 58

Wow the OP makes a statement to start up some debate and all of a sudden we have an all out hate hunt against them? Hell I'll be the first one to say that ANet swings a mighty big Nerf bat, so I hope somewhere in Washington a wall is being kicked down. If people don't like seeing the word "NERF" and have this need to go off like a stick dynamite when they see it maybe they should read threads that don't include contraversy in it, because like it or not there are people who like the changes and those that think the changes damaged the gameplay in some factor.

As a response to the OP I don't think its a nerf at all, infact I think its at least a way for people who get a rare skin with those mods on it to get rid of it and slap in a more useful mod instead. Oh what I wouldn't give to be able to do this to my req 8 gold Chaos axe with its furious + 30hp mods the only thing wrong with it is that its got that god forsaken Precious stamped on it. my 100k+ Axe is worth more then a measly 400 gold! So yeah even if you don't go rearranging your inscriptions to get better craftables or money at least you can over write them with useful inscriptions.

I do see where the nerf idea comes in though since if you thought the highly salvagable/precious wouldn't make an appearance in NF it does kind of drop the chances of scoring that all mighty 15^50 mod.

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08 Nov 2006 at 17:20 - 59

Where is this thread going?, Stop fighting!! It was a good Update, I don't think any of you realize what the Salvageable one does. Ok, here, go to The *SPOILER* Relm of Torment, open one chest, put a Very Salvageable inscription a metal sword or axe or something. Then Salvage it, boom around 80 of a common material. Or 7, 8 or 9 Steel Ingots.

Please do not complain about a good thing. But hey, thad be the day eh guys?

Stig Figger

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08 Nov 2006 at 18:47 - 60

My interpretation of the OP's comments is that he's worried that the new inscriptions would reduce the drop frequency of the existing inscriptions (e.g. 15^50). If this were so, it could be perceived as "taking away" inscriptions that are "more useful"...but there is simply no evidence presented yet to prove that inscription drop frequencies have been altered. Even if they have been altered, I still think the new inscriptions are "just as useful" in terms of their potential monetary/salvage value.

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Originally Posted by brokenmonkey

1st time Bone Staff=86 bones !!
2nd Time (other Staff) =76 Wood planks
3rd Staff= 8 steel.

It was my impression that it is not possible to (expert) salvage steel from staves, only wood or bone, and therefore I have never "wasted" an expert kit use on a staff. Can someone else confirm getting steel from a staff...and what kind of staff it was? I wouldn't think that "Measure for Measure" would increase the likelihood of getting a rare material, just increase the number of units of material (common or rare, depends on chance and what the particular item is allowed to yield), which is how "Highly Salvageable" works.

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08 Nov 2006 at 19:08 - 61

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Originally Posted by Stig Figger

It was my impression that it is not possible to (expert) salvage steel from staves, only wood or bone, and therefore I have never "wasted" an expert kit use on a staff. Can someone else confirm getting steel from a staff...and what kind of staff it was? I wouldn't think that "Measure for Measure" would increase the likelihood of getting a rare material, just increase the number of units of material (common or rare, depends on chance), which is how "Highly Salvageable" works.

It was a staff i got In the Relm of Torment, If i foind another I will post name.

Bale_Shadowscar

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08 Nov 2006 at 19:15 - 62

I think its good. Helps if you're looking to get lots of a certain material, for example; I'm looking for steel, so I'll pull a 'highly salvagable' off a bow and stick it on an axe.

Not so sure about the 'precious' one. I assume the inscription increased the amount the item is worth, yes? If I pull it off one weapon and stick it on another, will the amount of money added on due to the Inscription change? If yes, then thumbs up, as you can pull it off a rubbish purple and chuck in on a rubbish gold and get money. If it just adds the same amount to the weapon, then there ain't much point.

Ranger Rog

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08 Nov 2006 at 19:28 - 63

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Originally Posted by brokenmonkey

It was a staff i got In the Relm of Torment, If i foind another I will post name.

There is also a bow in NF (the name of which escapes me, bladed bow possibly) that I salvaged into iron when using a standard kit, so I'm guessing that it could salvage to steel too.

Lilandra

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08 Nov 2006 at 20:47 - 64

It sure would be nice to have some inscription traders in Nightfall towns, where we can sell inscriptions to for a better value than the base 25 gold for everything. Some inscriptions are more valuable than others and having a trader for them would help clear out some of these almost good ones that aren't worth the time trying to sell in trade chat, but aren't bad enough that you feel good about throwing them away for 25 gold at the regular merchant. They might be valuable to some lower levels or for people's heros, etc.
Lilandra

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08 Nov 2006 at 20:54 - 65

I once got steel from expert salvaging a raven staff I got from some trolls outside droks

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08 Nov 2006 at 22:01 - 66

u get steel from forbidden staffs .

Hand of Shiva

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09 Nov 2006 at 00:32 - 67

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Originally Posted by Stig Figger

My interpretation of the OP's comments is that he's worried that the new inscriptions would reduce the drop frequency of the existing inscriptions (e.g. 15^50). If this were so, it could be perceived as "taking away" inscriptions that are "more useful"...but there is simply no evidence presented yet to prove that inscription drop frequencies have been altered. Even if they have been altered, I still think the new inscriptions are "just as useful" in terms of their potential monetary/salvage value.

Actually the evidence is in the math. If you had a 1 in 10 chance of getting a 15^50 mod (I know thats not the correct statistic its an example) before the update you would now have a 1 in 12 chance of getting it now because you have introduced 2 more mods into the pool. Its sorta like rolling a die, the higher the number of sides statisitcally the lower your chances are of coming up with the number you want (over a period of time).

Bane of Worlds

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09 Nov 2006 at 00:51 - 68

This is a great update

This isn't a nerf but people are "afraid" of expert salvaging an inscription then open more highend chests or id more golds so you'll have a higher chance of not destroying an item or add another inscription on top of the inscription that was there and *boom* problem solved.

These new inscriptions are better than those unwanted dmg inscriptions like 20% dmg while health is less than 50%.

Death Omen

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09 Nov 2006 at 01:16 - 69

Dont be such a spoil sport, i have seen both sides reading to the bottom here and i have never recieved a perfect inscription on a weapon so i think that instead of those non perfect mods these mods are much more desirable because they can be used in different ways. It sucks having a one of these mods on a gold weapon you want to use, but since when do you find a weapon with all the perfect mods? i know it barely ever happens to me so I actually prefer getting the precious mod on a gold weapon so i can get 500g instead of whatever it would have normally been.

so rethink and dont be so closed minded. Altough it may lower the chance of getting a perfect inscription i welcome it for those people who want to make easy money or know how to get better materials from certain weapons.

<-- Death Omen

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09 Nov 2006 at 01:16 - 70

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Originally Posted by Neurotox

Measure for Measure: Pull one off some crappy blue, put it on some ruby daggers and up your chances of getting a 4k+ ruby.

can this actually happen or not? if so, this is a good addition. but if not, this is just another poor worthless addition to the game.

ParanoidDenny

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09 Nov 2006 at 02:26 - 71

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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

Dear heavens, if I see the word "Nerf" one more time, I'm gonna kick a wall! (Well, in a delicate and oh-so-ladylike manner, of course!

) The team comes up with a cool new set of inscriptions and somebody's complaining?!

Honestly, some days I just despair!

Read the ideas in this thread. Some of you "get it," and can see the value of these cool new inscriptions (and their parallel in the other regions). Good job on figuring it out. And thank you for gently showing the truth to the "nerf-sayers!"

well stop nerfing the damn game then and you wouldn't hear it as much LOL, seriously Gaile think before you put fingertips to keys.
This is a lighthearted post not an attack but with all due respect you have nerfed GW in general quite alot, still cant see why the spirit bond build had to be nerfed so it could make peeps a few plat to buy stuff, thats where i despair about ANET.

Like the new inscriptions though!

Pupu

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09 Nov 2006 at 05:38 - 72

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Originally Posted by Gaile Gray

Dear heavens, if I see the word "Nerf" one more time, I'm gonna kick a wall! (Well, in a delicate and oh-so-ladylike manner, of course!

) The team comes up with a cool new set of inscriptions and somebody's complaining?!

Honestly, some days I just despair!

Read the ideas in this thread. Some of you "get it," and can see the value of these cool new inscriptions (and their parallel in the other regions). Good job on figuring it out. And thank you for gently showing the truth to the "nerf-sayers!"

ah well...now you know theres always some idiot moaning about one thing or another, if you gave every player a free horse in guild wars there would be some ppl moaning that the color is black and not brown

raca137

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09 Nov 2006 at 06:04 - 73

Hello everyone!!! I will post the picture of how the new inscription rock

read the chat window... you will like what you see

Silver Polarbear

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09 Nov 2006 at 18:08 - 74

Personally i think the whole Attitude of most of the spoiled little brats in the game is wrong. Life isn't perfect. Life is a challenge, that is what makes it Fun!

Personally i think these new inscriptions are awesome! I have seen "Show Me The Money" increase an items value as much as 6X the original value !!!

I get really tired of people complaining and screaming because they got 1 little spot of mud and blood on their nice new white armor so to speak. GROW UP !!!!

Gaile, is there any way you could impose some kind of IQ requirement on the game *Wicked Grin* I Know I Know it is a rediculous idea.....but man would it be AWESOME to get rid of all the Crybabies who lay on the ground moaning and groaning about how life isn't fair!

Jetdoc

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09 Nov 2006 at 18:11 - 75

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Originally Posted by raca137

Hello everyone!!! I will post the picture of how the new inscription rock

read the chat window... you will like what you see

Holy crap....as long as you don't destroy the weapon, you can really make a material factory with that inscription.

Stig Figger

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09 Nov 2006 at 18:25 - 76

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Originally Posted by Hand of Shiva

Actually the evidence is in the math. If you had a 1 in 10 chance of getting a 15^50 mod (I know thats not the correct statistic its an example) before the update you would now have a 1 in 12 chance of getting it now because you have introduced 2 more mods into the pool. Its sorta like rolling a die, the higher the number of sides statisitcally the lower your chances are of coming up with the number you want (over a period of time).

It is possible that Anet changed the drop rate of all inscriptions to keep the total number of 15^50 drops the same as before. Perhaps there are simply more inscribed items dropping now overall to achieve this. But I doubt anyone collected enough data before the update to compare with the current build.

Theosebes

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09 Nov 2006 at 18:37 - 77

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Originally Posted by Jetdoc

Holy crap....as long as you don't destroy the weapon, you can really make a material factory with that inscription.

Except that in order to get the material out of it, you have to salvage for the material with the inscription on it, which destroys the weapon and inscription.

Gigashadow

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09 Nov 2006 at 18:49 - 78

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Originally Posted by Hand of Shiva

Actually the evidence is in the math. If you had a 1 in 10 chance of getting a 15^50 mod (I know thats not the correct statistic its an example) before the update you would now have a 1 in 12 chance of getting it now because you have introduced 2 more mods into the pool. Its sorta like rolling a die, the higher the number of sides statisitcally the lower your chances are of coming up with the number you want (over a period of time).

Not necessarily. You are assuming that they did not adjust the probabilities to compensate for this. It's entirely possible that the 2 new mods are replacing a range of probability where you wouldn't have got a mod at all before. We just don't know.

midnight caretaker

Frost Gate Guardian

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09 Nov 2006 at 22:56 - 79

Personally ive been playing mainly with 3 heros and 4 henchies most of the time for NF so any drop i get is great. My heros are drop hogs and take everything

SerenitySilverstar

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09 Nov 2006 at 23:40 - 80

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Originally Posted by raca137

Hello everyone!!! I will post the picture of how the new inscription rock

That's awesome

I was hoping that would happen, to help make finding jewels a bit easier. I'm saving my Measure for Measures for just such occasions from now on.