Quest Log

Blaaarg

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

England.

R/Mo

09 Nov 2006 at 22:08 - 1
So with the release of Nightfall came a large update to the skill tab, hero tab and how we navigate our setup. I personally feel that one thing is behind the times, apart from the friends list/alliance list it's this god forsaken primitive quest log! Now i'm sure this has been mentioned n times already, but gosh, i feel like i should just express how i think the quest log should be.

Currently there are three campaigns, now open your quest logs and you might have a few quests from Kaineng, Kryta, Istani, Vabbi, Ascalon, Shiverpeaks, etc. the list can be quite large for some of us who don't like quests. The thing is, is that we have that small box at the top which we have to scroll quite a bit down, and then we can read our quest. When new campaigns come out this list could get quite long and tedious.

I understand that many people love quests etc. etc. and do them straight away, myself including, but i feel the way the whole tab is composed is a bit awkard and the usability of it can be greatly increased. So i've just spent 30 seconds doodling something on paint, i'm not quite photoshop savvy, or have a steady hand when drawing. But just use your imaginations and image the Guild Wars GUI instead of the bright yellow etc.



lololol. It's quite funny what you can do in 30s.

An update like this would benefit everyone. It could probably be easily implemented as well.

I used the search feature, i check the already suggested ideas etc. Anyway, discuss away. I posted this as i hate the current quest log. I would like to know how others find it.

On a side note, a quest title would be nice as well.

Knightsaber Sith

Knightsaber Sith

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Aug 2006

Few Fallen Heroes [FFH]

W/E

09 Nov 2006 at 22:17 - 2
maybe it should say incomplete and not uncomplete...
/signed

Blaaarg

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

England.

R/Mo

09 Nov 2006 at 22:20 - 3
Hahaha, yeah, there's a few mistakes on that image, maybe i'll tidy it up when i have some free time.

Kha

Kha

Sins FTW!

Join Date: Mar 2005

USA

Angel Sharks [AS]

09 Nov 2006 at 22:39 - 4
/signed

It's annoying to have to "close" down certain areas in the log to simplify it every time I change characters. And I like the idea of the Primary, Incomplete, Complete tabs a lot.

DeanBB

DeanBB

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jul 2005

Arizona

Wizardry Players Guild, http://4guildwars.7.forumer.com

09 Nov 2006 at 22:45 - 5
Yes!

/signed

gameshoes3003

gameshoes3003

Forge Runner

Join Date: Feb 2006

10 Nov 2006 at 00:40 - 6
/signed
yes, I hate going through the big big big big big list.

Faer

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

10 Nov 2006 at 00:55 - 7
/signed
/indexed

Excellent idea; I can think of no reason not to implement this, other than possible programming or budget limitations. Your artwork may not be that high-quality, but the idea is solid.

Badger Muffin

Badger Muffin

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

Underworld Refugees

N/Me

10 Nov 2006 at 00:57 - 8
/signed

cool idea, will save alot of time

Inde

Site Contributor

Join Date: Dec 2004

10 Nov 2006 at 00:58 - 9
I've seen this suggestion numerous times before and variations on it but you know... I want it so badly. So here's a -

/signed

Faer

Faer

La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo

Join Date: Feb 2006

10 Nov 2006 at 00:59 - 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by Inde
I've seen this suggestion numerous times before
You have to admit though, this is the most detailed, inspiring occurrence of it yet (which is part of why it hasn't been merged into the other threads).

Unlucky Slayer

Unlucky Slayer

RAGE INCARNATE

Join Date: Apr 2006

Sitting at The Guild Hall 2, being happy.

Nerd Clan [NK]

R/

10 Nov 2006 at 01:02 - 11
/signed

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

10 Nov 2006 at 01:03 - 12
/signed

Very nice interface setup. Not sure completed quests should be so hard to find though (since you will have a few completed quests you haven't picked up the rewards for, but you'll have a lot more uncompleted ones). Maybe they should all be clumped together.

blitzerific

blitzerific

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

MEEP

W/

10 Nov 2006 at 01:03 - 13
/signed because faer told me to

Mathias Deathwater

Mathias Deathwater

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2005

In a maze of twisty passages, all alike

Fifteen Over Fifty

10 Nov 2006 at 01:29 - 14
Definitely /signed. It's getting really tiresome to have to look through all of my kaineng quests to get to my nightfall quests.

darksage78

darksage78

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2005

Toronto

E/Me

10 Nov 2006 at 02:01 - 15
/signed
or perhaps with the existing tab system make it so that when you close an area tab, keep it closed when you relog into that character. It's a pain when you're onto looking through quests and constantly having to close them over again since they're listed in order.

Anarion Silverhand

Anarion Silverhand

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Denmark

None

10 Nov 2006 at 14:17 - 16
/Signed with a

v8nutty

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2006

Swordmasters of Hoeth

E/Me

10 Nov 2006 at 14:34 - 17
/signed - a very good idea, it will make looking after quests much easier to handle.

broodijzer

broodijzer

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

void

Mo/

10 Nov 2006 at 14:39 - 18
/signed

I abandoned lots of quests to clear the list, it was getting too long . great idea.

Fluim

Fluim

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

E/Me

10 Nov 2006 at 14:53 - 19
/signed
An excellent idea. I hate to scroll through the thousands of quest in Bukdey Byway and Wajjun bazaar, yes, i would love to see this feature in-game.

Dean Harper

Dean Harper

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

USA

The Killer Clan Musketeers [TKCM]

Me/E

10 Nov 2006 at 15:01 - 20
/signed

Kayla Slays

Kayla Slays

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: May 2006

Round Rock, Texas

Can't Stop Texans

Mo/

10 Nov 2006 at 15:02 - 21
/signed

Though in addition there are some quests that are just hard to find. Like the one in the swamp North of LA and some of those 'watch NPC's chat FOREVER' ones (in Pre-sear A gift for Althea, On Factions noob Island with the teacher and terrified children....) So a list of quests you have not found yet could be good.
A similar thing was mentioned in a topic about title - get a Quest title. A format like this would enable something like a quest title.

manitoba1073

manitoba1073

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

ManitobaShipyards Refit and Repair Station

(SFC)Star Fleet Command,(TDE)The Daggerfall elite,(SOoM)Secret order of Magi

10 Nov 2006 at 15:02 - 22
/signed

Titan Chrae

Titan Chrae

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Frozen Lake

Illustrious Chromatic Enigmas (ICE)

Mo/

10 Nov 2006 at 15:44 - 23
I think the reasoning behind the completed was to keep track of quests complete even after you have accepted the reward. I like that idea and every other idea in the OP posted. You would be able to tell if you missed a quest you know is available. This would be especially handy if ever a title was granted for completing quests.

/signed

vergerefosh

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Sep 2006

Englishmen Don't Drink [Tea]

W/R

11 Nov 2006 at 00:07 - 24
/signed

Scroz

Scroz

Academy Page

Join Date: Mar 2006

11 Nov 2006 at 05:03 - 25
/signed

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

17 Nov 2006 at 17:48 - 26
I had a very similar idea, but with some diferences.

Since most of the time I make missions as I find them, there is no need for me to have such an 'wide' quest log. The actual 'folder' system looks nice to me.
Also, it's almost impossible to have more than 4 or 5 Primary quests active, so no need to separate them like that.

My idea was using that 'Tabbed' system, but mi tags were different:
  • Active - Any quest, primary or not, that is currently 'active', 'failed', or 'completed' waiting for you to take the reward. There could be checkbox to hide 'active', 'failed' and 'completed waiting for reward'.
  • Completed - All the completed quest of the current character, once you get the reward. Selecting one will mark on the radar and the mission map the NPC that gives the reward. The textbox will show all the mission objetives, like shown in active tab, but with the 'talk to xxx to get the reward' overlined like all the other objetives.
  • Known - This will show all the quest that have been taken by any character of the account, even if the current character cannot take the quest, have doneit or even if the character abandoned it. Selecting one will point to the NPC that gives the quest. Instead mision objetives or before them, the text box in this tag will show the requirements, if any, to take the quest, like:
    • Prophecies character
    • 'Mission name'
    • 'Cooperative Mission name'
    • Level 15, etc...

Aditionally, the region boxes could be added, but as I said, I'm fine with the folder-like system. I just don't have memory to remember all those missions.
I think a button to hide/show the areas panel will help, since you usually make missions of on area and the you travel to another.

teenchi

teenchi

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: May 2005

PST

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

W/Mo

17 Nov 2006 at 18:18 - 27
/signed

I don't care about seeing completed, but maybe there should be a tab for Failed so you know which ones you have to do over and Unobtained so you know where to go to pick up quests available to you that you may have overlooked in a town.

mqstout

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

Pittsburgh

17 Nov 2006 at 18:33 - 28
It's an old suggestion, but please, let's have one. The game already remembers quests you did so you can't repeat them.

Coran Ironclaw

Coran Ironclaw

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Guardianes Del Honor

R/Mo

17 Nov 2006 at 18:38 - 29
/Signed!!!!

I hate having to close the Echovald and Kaineng and... and.. to arrive the desolation quests

Alya

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

European servers

RTFM

14 Dec 2006 at 23:16 - 30
/totally signed

and yes, I would love to see a long, long list of the quests I completed

Njaiguni Blaze

Njaiguni Blaze

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2006

The Netherlands

The Biggyverse [PLEB]

Me/

14 Dec 2006 at 23:42 - 31
For Dwayna's sake!
/signed

LicensedLuny

Badly Influenced

Join Date: Dec 2005

Buying Humps! (No kidding! Check my buy thread)

Hello Kitty Krewe [HKK] Forever!-ish

15 Dec 2006 at 04:45 - 32
/signed for a new, more functional interface like OP suggested

/signed for a list of quests you've finished (completed and accepted reward)

/abstain on a list of quests your character has yet to find ... I'm very tempted by that, but it kinda seems against the spirit of PvE, doesn't it?


but an update, just tonight I noticed for the first time ...

Some of my characters have pages of skills from all over that I haven't finished yet. Upon logging in to work on them, I go through and minimize the non-primary region folders for quests I'm not on the right maps for. And always upon my next login on that character, I have to do it over.

Tonight I got on the character I'm currently working through Elona, minimized all her quests except Kourna and headed out. I played a while, and then had to switch characters to get something from inventory. When I logged back into the character I was playing and went to reset her quest list to minimized ... all the regions I'd minimized on my last login were the way I set them last!!! I didn't have to redo it! TY ANet! That's a nice cookie you've finally added to the cupboard! And most excellent ninja-update!

I suppose I really should check to make sure that's the new behavior before I report it here. But it made me so happy to see! I decided to not relog and check, just to end the night with a smile.

Though the new interface would better still.

Luny

Andrew_

Andrew_

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

South Africa

Knights of Fury UK [KOFU]

R/Me

15 Dec 2006 at 10:01 - 33
/signed 'cause it's such an awesome idea

NesQik

NesQik

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Feb 2006

Poland

We Are From Poland

Mo/Me

15 Dec 2006 at 13:00 - 34
/signed
I love this idea

Alaris

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

Montreal, Quebec, Canada

R/N

15 Dec 2006 at 14:54 - 35
/signed

We should also have an option to display all quests of the area we're in on the compass. This way, you don't have to sift through the quests in order to figure out which ones you can do here and which ones are closest.

What's a few extra green dots / arrows between friends?

Gonzo

Gonzo

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Feb 2006

Netherlands

Defenders of the Blackblade [DotB]

W/

15 Dec 2006 at 14:55 - 36
/signed - I like this

Alaris

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

Montreal, Quebec, Canada

R/N

15 Dec 2006 at 14:58 - 37
/signed

While we're at it, we should be able to keep track of several quests at a time. 2 options:

1) like WoW, you can select multiple quests and they will show up on the compass etc.
2) Just display all green dots & arrows for the region you're in by default, perhaps with the one selected brighter. Or have a check mark on the compass to disable that option.

Can't wait to get to Elona!!

Alaris

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

Montreal, Quebec, Canada

R/N

04 Jan 2007 at 20:32 - 38
/signed

A few ideas that could be incorporated:

Instead of menus, you can have buttons with drop downs.
For the Campaign button, you would have these options:
A) Show all campaigns
B) Show current campaign only
C) Show birth campaign only
D) Tyria
E) Cantha
F) ...

Filter button:
Drop-down menu where you can select / deselect given options:
1) Hide completed quests
2) Hide secondary quests
3) Hide quests outside the current region
4) Hide quests outside nearby areas
5) Hide quests outside the current area (not where quest was given, but where current task is)
6) Hide non-selected quests (with ability to select multiple quests)

Vinraith

Vinraith

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Dec 2006

04 Jan 2007 at 20:42 - 39
/signed

Great idea.

Dj Tano

Dj Tano

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

04 Jan 2007 at 21:59 - 40
/so signed!