is there a religon with it? *spoilers*

SPIRIT OF THE SEA

SPIRIT OF THE SEA

Banned

Join Date: May 2006

I know that there are the 6 true Gods BUT with every God (s) there is a religon and i havn't seen a temple or church or something like that. I know that NPCS say all hail the 6 true gods in Elona but you dont see them worshiping.



PS> im not one of thoose ppl who are obssesd with religon (far from it) all saying is ive noticed it

Theus

Jungle Guide

Join Date: May 2005

W/Mo

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Yeah.Might want to change the title.

It's a little spoilerific.

Kha

Kha

Sins FTW!

Join Date: Mar 2005

USA

Angel Sharks [AS]

A. Title should be changed.

2. Not every religion requires open worship like a temple or church.

Does-it-Matter

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

N/

Many religions are not as grandious and "public" as your more modern-day organised ones (Christianity, Judaism, etc.)

Most faiths will have some specific spot that they associate more with their religion than any other spot, that's true. This spot doesn't need to be a structure though. It could be a campfire, a tree, some marks on some object, a pond, etc.

Other times it could be the religon specifically prohibits (or disapproves of) any materialistic significance. So in that case, you wouldn't find a "place of worship" at all.

If you look at the various places in Prophecies, you can point out specific places of worship (sacraficing circle in the wilds, temple of the ages, inside volcano towards the end of prophecies etc.)

SPIRIT OF THE SEA

SPIRIT OF THE SEA

Banned

Join Date: May 2006

k sry and idc about title just bored so posted it

Chuba

Chuba

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Aug 2005

Finland

New Dragons [NDR]

There's only 6 gods: Melandru, Dwayna, Balthazar, Lyssa, Grenth and the God of Secrets/Goddess of Truth (depending on whether you look at the timeline before or after the events in Nightfall). They don't have a "religion" of sorts, but all the professions that the player can choose in the game all have their deities among these gods and there are religious orders such as the Lyssa worshippers in Vabbi that clearly stand out.

MrTumnus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

Mo/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by SPIRIT OF THE SEA
I know that there are the 6 true Gods BUT with every God (s) there is a religon and i havn't seen a temple or church or something like that. I know that NPCS say all hail the 6 true gods in Elona but you dont see them worshiping.

Here's my speculation...

PS> im not one of thoose ppl who are obssesd with religon (far from it) all saying is ive noticed it
Wasn't Mhenlo born in the Serenity Temple? I'm not sure if that temple was a place of worship for the Tyrian/Elonian/Canthan gods, or if they just worshiped at the various shrines found around (e.g. the shrine of Balth close to the breach, Melandru in Regent Valley)...

These seem like, at the very least, monuments to some sort of polytheistic religion. If the sixth god was defeated/killed/banished (I haven't completed NF yet), all trace of their existence in many area may have been eliminated as well.

But...i haven't come close to finishing factions yet (haven't even made SS Gen. yet.) so there may be some details I'm missing.

lapsus

lapsus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

AMO

A/

Well It might be safe to assume that the towns people have small shrines in their homes. Most polytheistic religions require grandoise temples but maybe their in the other parts of town you never get to see...

Trakata

Trakata

Crimson King

Join Date: Jun 2006

Resplendent Makuun

Song of the Forsaken

Temple of the Ages, Serenity Temple, Ashford Abbey, and the bonus for D'Alessio Seaboard (I think) all give some insight into the worship habits of the people. To what extent is unknown, since all of these areas are either already destroyed, get destroyed, or are miniscule. I doubt people gathered for mass every Sunday in the Temple of Ages, but I think that people would commune with the gods when they needed to.

The gods don't strike me as the "worship-me" religion. They don't require worship, merely recognition of their domains.

Guildmaster Cain

Guildmaster Cain

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Guildmistress Eve [Me], Guildmistress Azura [N], Guildmistress Azumi [A], Guildmistress Jaina [D]

Guildmaster Aeron [Rt], Arthas Ironfist [W], Guild: The Tyrian Templars [TTT]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Chuba
There's only 6 gods: Melandru, Dwayna, Balthazar, Lyssa, Grenth and the God of Secrets/Goddess of Truth (depending on whether you look at the timeline before or after the events in Nightfall). They don't have a "religion" of sorts, but all the professions that the player can choose in the game all have their deities among these gods and there are religious orders such as the Lyssa worshippers in Vabbi that clearly stand out.
There is no Goddess of Truth, her real designation is Goddess of Secrets and her avatar is called Seer of Truth. Thus the Goddess replaces the old maddened God. As history is written by the victors, the gods removed Abaddon from history writings. The GW panteon has great similarities to the greek panteon, in which there wasnt really a fixed number of gods. Simpy creating a new god would fill an old spot or create a new one in the panteon

cataphract

cataphract

Forge Runner

Join Date: Aug 2005

Ashford Abbey

Hey Mallyx [icU]

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Trakata
Temple of the Ages, Serenity Temple, Ashford Abbey, and the bonus for D'Alessio Seaboard (I think) ...
Temple of Tolerance, I believe.

Trakata

Trakata

Crimson King

Join Date: Jun 2006

Resplendent Makuun

Song of the Forsaken

Quote:
Originally Posted by cataphract
Temple of Tolerance, I believe.
Add Tolerance to my list, but Seaboard bonus has you delivering an offering to Melandru's statue if I remember right. That's why I added it.

Guildmaster Cain

Guildmaster Cain

Desert Nomad

Join Date: May 2006

Guildmistress Eve [Me], Guildmistress Azura [N], Guildmistress Azumi [A], Guildmistress Jaina [D]

Guildmaster Aeron [Rt], Arthas Ironfist [W], Guild: The Tyrian Templars [TTT]

Sebelkeh Basilica in NF and the temple to Abaddon at the end of NF

-Old 3FL-

-Old 3FL-

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2006

Western Australia.

Crystal Mountain [CM]

W/

Though there are locations for worshipping, not all religions / cults have churches / temples.
Some cults would just worship an idol depicting an image of their God(s).

Corpselooter

Corpselooter

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands, Woerden

Glob of Ectospasm [GoE]

R/

The temple in Riverside Province mission, where they worship the Mursaat.

lapsus

lapsus

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

AMO

A/

Although not all religions dont have temples and shrines something tells me the Ascalonians are far too enmeshed in faith to not have a massive temple to atleast all the gods at once. Many major cities in all polytheistic religions boasted large temples. Rome, Athens, Sparta, Delphi each one had massive temples to their gods and a larger one for their patron. Many eastern religions like Bhuddism have truely massive complexes. And usually their god/idol is in a special public place (atleast for the members of said group) making it a temple.

draxynnic

draxynnic

Furnace Stoker

Join Date: Nov 2005

[CRFH]

Well, Serenity Temple is, I believe, described as being the Ascalonian equivalent to the Temple of Ages in Kryta. It is also described as being ruined after the Searing (and we don't see it before the Searing).

While the only statues present are to Melandru and Dwayna when we see it, it could be that shrines to other gods were there, but were destroyed - or it could be that all the statues were destroyed, but that Dwayna and Melandru happened to be the first to be reconstructed (for a certain value of "reconstructed" when it comes to statues of Dwayna when you don't have favour...)

bsumlin

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

Stewards of the Ancient Rites [STAR]

Rt/

Also recall that Vabbians openly worship Lyssa, in fact many believe it was shaped according to her wishes (various conversation with NPC's), and the floating shrine above the Mirror of Lyss is an altar to Lyssa herself.

GedLongbow

GedLongbow

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Oct 2006

A pinapple under the Jade Sea

R/Mo

What proffession you are matters who you worship, and you don't bow down, your worshipping them is fighting as they're disciple and using their favored combat style and LEARNING from them.

SPIRIT OF THE SEA

SPIRIT OF THE SEA

Banned

Join Date: May 2006

Ged that is true like in handbook says proffesions belive in what different gods say which is why wars and eles worship balthzar and necros worship grenth and idiots worship abbadon LOL

Oven

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2006

E/N

Actually somewhere in the Maguma jungle there is a 'Temple of Balthazar' that looks very much like the temple of Balthazar in HA. Also, somewhere in the Shiverpeaks there is a temple to Grenth. Curiously enough, you can get into FoW and Underworld from these places. My first impression on finding these places was like 'woah, that's massive!'.

Sophitia Leafblade

Sophitia Leafblade

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Dragon Slayer Guild [DSG]

R/

Has anyone mentioned that fact theres Shrines all over the places to the gods which we know betta as Resurrection shrine

Ehecatzin FlyingCrab

Ehecatzin FlyingCrab

Academy Page

Join Date: Jun 2005

Mexico

Guardianes del Honor

R/W

Well, actually Ascalon did have Temples to the five Gods, The catacombs, Serenity temple. and the big caslte like building in ascalon city.

-Catacombs: Catacombs are a very important part for many religions, and in ascalon, this place for the rest of the dead is filled with images of the five Gods..maybe there was some of abbadon but they are nonexistant now.

-Ascalon temple: When we arrive to Ascalon we see this castle like building, that when the searing comes is destroyed, then we get to see that it actually was a shrine to the 5 Gods, wich if you think of it, reseembles the crystal desert mesa.

-Serenity temple: I dont remember if this one was for the 5 Gods, I think it was just Dwayna and Melandru. Aparently it was a center of formation for the...religious class in ascalon, as Mhenlo studied there.

So, there are many examples of temples, only thing is that, well, ascalon was destroyed, Orr dissapeared and the mantle didnt like the Gods.

There even was a temple..or plaza dedicated to the 5 Gods in Gandarra, of course before Varesh did her demon thing and kicked our ass. after that only the Abadon image remains.

I would like to see an (intact) temple to the ..now 6 Gods, and why not demiGods as well, have a great temple we can visit. and see people worshiping the Gods. Until now such temples are either destroyed or are a bunch of sorry srhines..like the many ToA's.

Peka

Peka

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

N/

lol why are you all speaking about religions in a game ?