is there a religon with it? *spoilers*
SPIRIT OF THE SEA
I know that there are the 6 true Gods BUT with every God (s) there is a religon and i havn't seen a temple or church or something like that. I know that NPCS say all hail the 6 true gods in Elona but you dont see them worshiping.
PS> im not one of thoose ppl who are obssesd with religon (far from it) all saying is ive noticed it
PS> im not one of thoose ppl who are obssesd with religon (far from it) all saying is ive noticed it
Theus
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Yeah.Might want to change the title.
It's a little spoilerific.
Yeah.Might want to change the title.
It's a little spoilerific.
Kha
A. Title should be changed.
2. Not every religion requires open worship like a temple or church.
2. Not every religion requires open worship like a temple or church.
Does-it-Matter
Many religions are not as grandious and "public" as your more modern-day organised ones (Christianity, Judaism, etc.)
Most faiths will have some specific spot that they associate more with their religion than any other spot, that's true. This spot doesn't need to be a structure though. It could be a campfire, a tree, some marks on some object, a pond, etc.
Other times it could be the religon specifically prohibits (or disapproves of) any materialistic significance. So in that case, you wouldn't find a "place of worship" at all.
If you look at the various places in Prophecies, you can point out specific places of worship (sacraficing circle in the wilds, temple of the ages, inside volcano towards the end of prophecies etc.)
Most faiths will have some specific spot that they associate more with their religion than any other spot, that's true. This spot doesn't need to be a structure though. It could be a campfire, a tree, some marks on some object, a pond, etc.
Other times it could be the religon specifically prohibits (or disapproves of) any materialistic significance. So in that case, you wouldn't find a "place of worship" at all.
If you look at the various places in Prophecies, you can point out specific places of worship (sacraficing circle in the wilds, temple of the ages, inside volcano towards the end of prophecies etc.)
SPIRIT OF THE SEA
k sry and idc about title just bored so posted it
Chuba
There's only 6 gods: Melandru, Dwayna, Balthazar, Lyssa, Grenth and the God of Secrets/Goddess of Truth (depending on whether you look at the timeline before or after the events in Nightfall). They don't have a "religion" of sorts, but all the professions that the player can choose in the game all have their deities among these gods and there are religious orders such as the Lyssa worshippers in Vabbi that clearly stand out.
MrTumnus
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I know that there are the 6 true Gods BUT with every God (s) there is a religon and i havn't seen a temple or church or something like that. I know that NPCS say all hail the 6 true gods in Elona but you dont see them worshiping.
Here's my speculation... PS> im not one of thoose ppl who are obssesd with religon (far from it) all saying is ive noticed it |
These seem like, at the very least, monuments to some sort of polytheistic religion. If the sixth god was defeated/killed/banished (I haven't completed NF yet), all trace of their existence in many area may have been eliminated as well.
But...i haven't come close to finishing factions yet (haven't even made SS Gen. yet.) so there may be some details I'm missing.
lapsus
Well It might be safe to assume that the towns people have small shrines in their homes. Most polytheistic religions require grandoise temples but maybe their in the other parts of town you never get to see...
Trakata
Temple of the Ages, Serenity Temple, Ashford Abbey, and the bonus for D'Alessio Seaboard (I think) all give some insight into the worship habits of the people. To what extent is unknown, since all of these areas are either already destroyed, get destroyed, or are miniscule. I doubt people gathered for mass every Sunday in the Temple of Ages, but I think that people would commune with the gods when they needed to.
The gods don't strike me as the "worship-me" religion. They don't require worship, merely recognition of their domains.
The gods don't strike me as the "worship-me" religion. They don't require worship, merely recognition of their domains.
Guildmaster Cain
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Originally Posted by Chuba
There's only 6 gods: Melandru, Dwayna, Balthazar, Lyssa, Grenth and the God of Secrets/Goddess of Truth (depending on whether you look at the timeline before or after the events in Nightfall). They don't have a "religion" of sorts, but all the professions that the player can choose in the game all have their deities among these gods and there are religious orders such as the Lyssa worshippers in Vabbi that clearly stand out.
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cataphract
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Temple of the Ages, Serenity Temple, Ashford Abbey, and the bonus for D'Alessio Seaboard (I think) ...
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Trakata
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Temple of Tolerance, I believe.
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Guildmaster Cain
Sebelkeh Basilica in NF and the temple to Abaddon at the end of NF
-Old 3FL-
Though there are locations for worshipping, not all religions / cults have churches / temples.
Some cults would just worship an idol depicting an image of their God(s).
Some cults would just worship an idol depicting an image of their God(s).
Corpselooter
The temple in Riverside Province mission, where they worship the Mursaat.
lapsus
Although not all religions dont have temples and shrines something tells me the Ascalonians are far too enmeshed in faith to not have a massive temple to atleast all the gods at once. Many major cities in all polytheistic religions boasted large temples. Rome, Athens, Sparta, Delphi each one had massive temples to their gods and a larger one for their patron. Many eastern religions like Bhuddism have truely massive complexes. And usually their god/idol is in a special public place (atleast for the members of said group) making it a temple.
draxynnic
Well, Serenity Temple is, I believe, described as being the Ascalonian equivalent to the Temple of Ages in Kryta. It is also described as being ruined after the Searing (and we don't see it before the Searing).
While the only statues present are to Melandru and Dwayna when we see it, it could be that shrines to other gods were there, but were destroyed - or it could be that all the statues were destroyed, but that Dwayna and Melandru happened to be the first to be reconstructed (for a certain value of "reconstructed" when it comes to statues of Dwayna when you don't have favour...)
While the only statues present are to Melandru and Dwayna when we see it, it could be that shrines to other gods were there, but were destroyed - or it could be that all the statues were destroyed, but that Dwayna and Melandru happened to be the first to be reconstructed (for a certain value of "reconstructed" when it comes to statues of Dwayna when you don't have favour...)
bsumlin
Also recall that Vabbians openly worship Lyssa, in fact many believe it was shaped according to her wishes (various conversation with NPC's), and the floating shrine above the Mirror of Lyss is an altar to Lyssa herself.
GedLongbow
What proffession you are matters who you worship, and you don't bow down, your worshipping them is fighting as they're disciple and using their favored combat style and LEARNING from them.
SPIRIT OF THE SEA
Ged that is true like in handbook says proffesions belive in what different gods say which is why wars and eles worship balthzar and necros worship grenth and idiots worship abbadon LOL
Oven
Actually somewhere in the Maguma jungle there is a 'Temple of Balthazar' that looks very much like the temple of Balthazar in HA. Also, somewhere in the Shiverpeaks there is a temple to Grenth. Curiously enough, you can get into FoW and Underworld from these places. My first impression on finding these places was like 'woah, that's massive!'.
Sophitia Leafblade
Has anyone mentioned that fact theres Shrines all over the places to the gods which we know betta as Resurrection shrine
Ehecatzin FlyingCrab
Well, actually Ascalon did have Temples to the five Gods, The catacombs, Serenity temple. and the big caslte like building in ascalon city.
-Catacombs: Catacombs are a very important part for many religions, and in ascalon, this place for the rest of the dead is filled with images of the five Gods..maybe there was some of abbadon but they are nonexistant now.
-Ascalon temple: When we arrive to Ascalon we see this castle like building, that when the searing comes is destroyed, then we get to see that it actually was a shrine to the 5 Gods, wich if you think of it, reseembles the crystal desert mesa.
-Serenity temple: I dont remember if this one was for the 5 Gods, I think it was just Dwayna and Melandru. Aparently it was a center of formation for the...religious class in ascalon, as Mhenlo studied there.
So, there are many examples of temples, only thing is that, well, ascalon was destroyed, Orr dissapeared and the mantle didnt like the Gods.
There even was a temple..or plaza dedicated to the 5 Gods in Gandarra, of course before Varesh did her demon thing and kicked our ass. after that only the Abadon image remains.
I would like to see an (intact) temple to the ..now 6 Gods, and why not demiGods as well, have a great temple we can visit. and see people worshiping the Gods. Until now such temples are either destroyed or are a bunch of sorry srhines..like the many ToA's.
-Catacombs: Catacombs are a very important part for many religions, and in ascalon, this place for the rest of the dead is filled with images of the five Gods..maybe there was some of abbadon but they are nonexistant now.
-Ascalon temple: When we arrive to Ascalon we see this castle like building, that when the searing comes is destroyed, then we get to see that it actually was a shrine to the 5 Gods, wich if you think of it, reseembles the crystal desert mesa.
-Serenity temple: I dont remember if this one was for the 5 Gods, I think it was just Dwayna and Melandru. Aparently it was a center of formation for the...religious class in ascalon, as Mhenlo studied there.
So, there are many examples of temples, only thing is that, well, ascalon was destroyed, Orr dissapeared and the mantle didnt like the Gods.
There even was a temple..or plaza dedicated to the 5 Gods in Gandarra, of course before Varesh did her demon thing and kicked our ass. after that only the Abadon image remains.
I would like to see an (intact) temple to the ..now 6 Gods, and why not demiGods as well, have a great temple we can visit. and see people worshiping the Gods. Until now such temples are either destroyed or are a bunch of sorry srhines..like the many ToA's.
Peka
lol why are you all speaking about religions in a game ?