What's the least played profession in GW?
Paperfly
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The Primeval King
PVE - Rits
PVP - uhhhh. Maybe mesmer? I know builds use them but not as many asothers it seems.
PVP - uhhhh. Maybe mesmer? I know builds use them but not as many asothers it seems.
Xeones The Great
Definitely Ritualists And Mesmers
And Decent Sins (no Offense, But Theyre Really Hard To Find These Days)
And Decent Sins (no Offense, But Theyre Really Hard To Find These Days)
Akhilleus
overall, in pve rits and mesmers are pretty hard to find.
on the other hand, i believe the single hardest things to find in GW are GOOD warriors, monks, assassins.
the problem is that there are so many warriors and assassins its just hard to judge...as for monks; its a tossup. more often than not; good (non-farming) monks advance very quikly, so you wont find too many; but when you do, you can finish 2-3 missions back to back.
necros that actually know how to play a necro (as in; not use a cookie-cutter/brainless MM build) are also fairly hard to come by.
on the other hand, most non-brainless necros have a hard time getting groups, because people are too stupid to realize the power of a good blood, curse or (non-mm) death necro.
on the other hand, i believe the single hardest things to find in GW are GOOD warriors, monks, assassins.
the problem is that there are so many warriors and assassins its just hard to judge...as for monks; its a tossup. more often than not; good (non-farming) monks advance very quikly, so you wont find too many; but when you do, you can finish 2-3 missions back to back.
necros that actually know how to play a necro (as in; not use a cookie-cutter/brainless MM build) are also fairly hard to come by.
on the other hand, most non-brainless necros have a hard time getting groups, because people are too stupid to realize the power of a good blood, curse or (non-mm) death necro.
Terra Xin
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Originally Posted by The Primeval King
PVP - uhhhh. Maybe mesmer? I know builds use them but not as many asothers it seems.
Rits are actually the least played in PvP as well. Their spirits get killed hard in GvG and HoH. Mesmers are very popular in that area.
Etrik
Decent Monks in PvE.
Blkout
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Originally Posted by Jay Shrine
I would say monks,for nightfall,I never see them,I always have to get the god damn Hero ><
Nothing wrong with Hero monks if setup properly and equipped well. In fact, most proper Hero monks will beat a human almost every time because of the faster reflexes of a computer.
And I don't think the GD swearing is necessary.
And I don't think the GD swearing is necessary.
lundis
Mesmers used to be very rare but nowadays i see alot of them(including myslef xD).
Rit's are the greatest support porfession but it's just that ppl doesn't know about it and thinks that they suck because they aren't restoration Rit's...
Now with NF why would anyone want to make a factions character and play through that booring factions story again
Atleast that's the reason i don't make a Rit on my primary account..
bah that was offtopic..
Whatever i think Rit's are rarest too.. and assassins second.. or the other way around.. i'm not sure
Rit's are the greatest support porfession but it's just that ppl doesn't know about it and thinks that they suck because they aren't restoration Rit's...
Now with NF why would anyone want to make a factions character and play through that booring factions story again
Atleast that's the reason i don't make a Rit on my primary account..
bah that was offtopic..
Whatever i think Rit's are rarest too.. and assassins second.. or the other way around.. i'm not sure
Technicolour
Yeh definetly the mesmer and rit even though IMO these are two of the most powerful classes in Guild Wars. I guess its just that people dont want to have to think as much as they would be forced to with these proffessions
Jyro X
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Originally Posted by f2k.lexx
Rt is definatly the class I've seen th least, followed closely by Assassins and Mesmers. Early on in the game you see a lot of shitty Monks, but once you get to the later parts, you mainly get good monks (and what the hell is wrong with orizon please? It's standard in my build... And I've never heard anything but compliments about my monking...). though I agree on healing Breeze, anybody caught using that should be slapped across the face, the same applies on Warriors using Heal Sig... I've rage quit on one of those before because he wouldn't stop using it (Same goes for troll Unguent while we're on that matter...).
I agree with most of those points, except about Healing Signet. If a warrior knows how to properly use it (outside of battle or while in a defensive stance), it's fine and it is a great skill. Rage-quitting on a group just because they're using a skill that you don't fully understand or think has any positive sides to it doesn't make them a noob or an un-skilled player. They just play differently than you and you could possibly learn something if you give them a chance.
And I won't take most monks that I don't know even if they ask to join. I trust hero's/henchman over regular PUG monks (no matter what kind of armor they're wearing or title they're wearing) because more often than not, PUG monks have no idea what they're doing, rage-quit on a group for reasons like you listed above, or just plain don't even care about what they're doing and will either go afk during a battle or not pay attention at all. Overall, I take Hero's/Henchman almost everywhere I go instead of random PUG people. Yes, I'll take guild mates and friends with me, but that's about it. I've finished all of Nightfall mostly with all Hero's/Henchman and 1 other guild mate on 3 of my characters now. And we had very VERY few problems getting through it and were some of the very first people to finish.
As far as the rarest class, I have to say mesmers. I see ritualists everywhere, but I hardly ever see mesmers and they're an extraordinary class. It is so hard for mine to get a group because people say that mesmers are "useless". I want to know how a good interrupt/illusion/domination mesmer is any more useless than a W/Mo spamming Frenzy + Healing Signet. =/
And I won't take most monks that I don't know even if they ask to join. I trust hero's/henchman over regular PUG monks (no matter what kind of armor they're wearing or title they're wearing) because more often than not, PUG monks have no idea what they're doing, rage-quit on a group for reasons like you listed above, or just plain don't even care about what they're doing and will either go afk during a battle or not pay attention at all. Overall, I take Hero's/Henchman almost everywhere I go instead of random PUG people. Yes, I'll take guild mates and friends with me, but that's about it. I've finished all of Nightfall mostly with all Hero's/Henchman and 1 other guild mate on 3 of my characters now. And we had very VERY few problems getting through it and were some of the very first people to finish.
As far as the rarest class, I have to say mesmers. I see ritualists everywhere, but I hardly ever see mesmers and they're an extraordinary class. It is so hard for mine to get a group because people say that mesmers are "useless". I want to know how a good interrupt/illusion/domination mesmer is any more useless than a W/Mo spamming Frenzy + Healing Signet. =/
Shinrei
I would say mesmer
JGaff
As a Mesmer (my bro plays a rit), I can agree with the above concept. If we get more specific, It seems to me there are a few more female Mesmers than Males, and probably more male Rits than female rits.
I've yet to see "GLF 1 Mesmer, Ritualist"
When that occurs, I'll let you guys know...
I've yet to see "GLF 1 Mesmer, Ritualist"
When that occurs, I'll let you guys know...
Tarus From Taros
In PVE I'd definetly say Mesmer's are the least played in core class. Ritualist's are the least played at any time if you factor in all three chapters.
Francis Crawford
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Originally Posted by Dr Imperial
mesmer mesmer mesmer. Mesmers are actually really good....and can rip apart a warrior in a matter of seconds...but i think mesmer should stay a secondary proffesion and not a primary.
If we're talking PvE, you're right. There's little reason to be a PRIMARY mesmer in PvE, and the kind of person who uses mesmer skills is likely to figure that out.
What's more, in PvE your team is at times outnumbered, and mesmers are one of the least scalable classes in terms of fighting multiple enemies at once. (The same is true of assassins.)
What's more, in PvE your team is at times outnumbered, and mesmers are one of the least scalable classes in terms of fighting multiple enemies at once. (The same is true of assassins.)
Hyunsai
Mesmer and ritualist...
I'm currently doing the Nightfall campaign, and I see VERY few of those classes...
In RA and TA ritualist are more present though...
I'm currently doing the Nightfall campaign, and I see VERY few of those classes...
In RA and TA ritualist are more present though...
Jetdoc
I joined a PuG yesterday, and someone said - how can you heal as a Ranger?
I explained to them that I was a Ritualist, and they said "a what"? Is that some kind of necromancer?
Needless to say, they learned a new appreciation for the healing powers of a Ritualist, when I solo healed the entire party through the Ring of Fire mission/bonus...
I explained to them that I was a Ritualist, and they said "a what"? Is that some kind of necromancer?
Needless to say, they learned a new appreciation for the healing powers of a Ritualist, when I solo healed the entire party through the Ring of Fire mission/bonus...
Age
I would say Assassin and Mesmer as you can still see Rits around although in PvP memsers are very popular.
GedLongbow
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Originally Posted by Evil Cheesecake
Ritualists I guess, I've seen ONE Ritualist since I started playing.
You must sit in Internation Districts of unpopulated towns like Maguuma Stade or Chabhabek Village or whatever it's called.....I've seen over 300 Ritualists....also about 300 Mesmers too....and almost all Warriors get me through the missions.....and I never have AFKing Monks except once in RA.....Maybe I'm jsut lucky
Antheus
Mesmers and Ritualists are perceived as rare.
First, they don't get invited into any group, unless by mistake.
Second, both of those professions work. They work so well, that those that play them do not humiliate themselves with joining unwashed masses that are PUGs, but simple breeze through the game with heroes, not even breaking a sweat.
Many very experienced players play Ritualists and Mesmers, and they simply find the game easier and faster with hero/hench. Main reason for this is that both of these classes require different group dynamics. An offensive spirit ritualist is a one person spiking machine. A mesmer can tear spiking casters apart before an ele finishes casting MS. They can also kill a dervish in two seconds, before melee even runs into range. But both require completely different agro management, and different combat flow.
So, simply put, it's not worth trying to get into PUGs, or even advertise your presence. Simply play without hassle.
But they aren't rare. Just subtle.
First, they don't get invited into any group, unless by mistake.
Second, both of those professions work. They work so well, that those that play them do not humiliate themselves with joining unwashed masses that are PUGs, but simple breeze through the game with heroes, not even breaking a sweat.
Many very experienced players play Ritualists and Mesmers, and they simply find the game easier and faster with hero/hench. Main reason for this is that both of these classes require different group dynamics. An offensive spirit ritualist is a one person spiking machine. A mesmer can tear spiking casters apart before an ele finishes casting MS. They can also kill a dervish in two seconds, before melee even runs into range. But both require completely different agro management, and different combat flow.
So, simply put, it's not worth trying to get into PUGs, or even advertise your presence. Simply play without hassle.
But they aren't rare. Just subtle.
nytestalker
id have to say mesmer, mostly because its mis-understood and one of the harder professions to play.
HolyHawk
In pve, I saw one or 2 mesmer during whole nightfall. Assassins are not so frequent either. In pvp, ritualists are nearly dead, but essencialy because no one tried channeling tree so far effectively.
Shinto Sharingan
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Originally Posted by Antheus
An offensive spirit ritualist is a one person spiking machine. A mesmer can tear spiking casters apart before an ele finishes casting MS. They can also kill a dervish in two seconds, before melee even runs into range.
BTW You really are making them seem more powerful than they are
Redfeather1975
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Originally Posted by Effendi Westland
check the new skills
on topic:
Ritualists (outside cantha, havent been in cantha for a while so wouldn't know)
Assassins, also haven't encountered one outside cantha
Mesmer
Necro
Ranger
Elementalist
Monk
Warrior
Paragon tied with Dervish
Paragons and dervishes everywhere!!
and why do I spot so very few necros? ^^ That's pretty much how I see it as well.
Except I still overall see more warriors than paragon and dervish if you are talking about all 3 continents.
on topic:
Ritualists (outside cantha, havent been in cantha for a while so wouldn't know)
Assassins, also haven't encountered one outside cantha
Mesmer
Necro
Ranger
Elementalist
Monk
Warrior
Paragon tied with Dervish
Paragons and dervishes everywhere!!
and why do I spot so very few necros? ^^ That's pretty much how I see it as well.
Except I still overall see more warriors than paragon and dervish if you are talking about all 3 continents.
Anti Oath
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Originally Posted by Ic Zero
PvE - Mesmer
PvP - Ritualist thats what i was thinking
PvP - Ritualist thats what i was thinking
BUUUU
I'm sure rits are out there I play my rits most of the time. Yes, farming..hehe
Dean Harper
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Originally Posted by Dr Imperial
mesmer mesmer mesmer. Mesmers are actually really good....and can rip apart a warrior in a matter of seconds...but i think mesmer should stay a secondary proffesion and not a primary.
WAAAAAAAATTTTTT?!?!?!?!?!?!???!?!?! How in the world can you even say that???? Have you LOOKED at teh ritualist forums? have you seen how few of them there are compared to Mesmers? There are at least 6-10 mesmers whenever i go into a town, and jsut about zip of ritualists. And mesmers do fine as a primary, they just have a bad rep because they pwn almost any class(depending on your skill choice) and no one can play them properly. So whoever thinks taht memsers should only be used as a secondary have to go through me..... grrrrr,
srry i jsut get sooo heated when people talk down about mesmers, its just not fair, if you only went and tried a primary mes, you would see that they ROCK!!!!!
WAAAAAAAATTTTTT?!?!?!?!?!?!???!?!?! How in the world can you even say that???? Have you LOOKED at teh ritualist forums? have you seen how few of them there are compared to Mesmers? There are at least 6-10 mesmers whenever i go into a town, and jsut about zip of ritualists. And mesmers do fine as a primary, they just have a bad rep because they pwn almost any class(depending on your skill choice) and no one can play them properly. So whoever thinks taht memsers should only be used as a secondary have to go through me..... grrrrr,
Dean Harper
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Originally Posted by Dr Imperial
mesmer mesmer mesmer. Mesmers are actually really good....and can rip apart a warrior in a matter of seconds...but i think mesmer should stay a secondary proffesion and not a primary.
WAAAAAAAATTTTTT?!?!?!?!?!?!???!?!?! How in the world can you even say that???? Have you LOOKED at teh ritualist forums? have you seen how few of them there are compared to Mesmers? There are at least 6-10 mesmers whenever i go into a town, and jsut about zip of ritualists. And mesmers do fine as a primary, they just have a bad rep because they pwn almost any class(depending on your skill choice) and no one can play them properly. So whoever thinks taht memsers should only be used as a secondary have to go through me..... grrrrr, srry i jsut get sooo heated when people talk down about mesmers, its just not fair, if you only went and tried a primary mes, you would see that they ROCK!!!!!
WAAAAAAAATTTTTT?!?!?!?!?!?!???!?!?! How in the world can you even say that???? Have you LOOKED at teh ritualist forums? have you seen how few of them there are compared to Mesmers? There are at least 6-10 mesmers whenever i go into a town, and jsut about zip of ritualists. And mesmers do fine as a primary, they just have a bad rep because they pwn almost any class(depending on your skill choice) and no one can play them properly. So whoever thinks taht memsers should only be used as a secondary have to go through me..... grrrrr,
Dean Harper
damn, srry about double post, laggy computer today...
Solus_the_Deadly
Paragon EASLIY
God Apprentice
Mesmers and Ritualists
Poison Ivy
A decent Assassin...
They're not PvE materiel
They're not PvE materiel
Etrik
Why wouldn't Rits be common, they own come NF. Attuned was Songkai + Renewing Surge = constant, high DPS.
Saphon the Patient
Got to say that since my most frequently used characters are a mesmer and a ritualist, I know that I am part of a real minority.
I spend quite a bit of time trying to find good builds involving Ritualists and Mesmers and find that sometimes this requires careful use of a secondary profession.
Whilst I agree that they are the least played, I think they are the most entertaining to play as they give more of a challenge and require more precision to use them effectively.
Perhaps it is peoples' lack of imagination and their obsession with farming which means that these professions are shunned. After all, why farm in difficult ways when there are simpler ways to do it with other professions ?
If people were less obsessed with their "wallets", would Ritualists and Mesmers be more prominent ? I'd like to think so.
I spend quite a bit of time trying to find good builds involving Ritualists and Mesmers and find that sometimes this requires careful use of a secondary profession.
Whilst I agree that they are the least played, I think they are the most entertaining to play as they give more of a challenge and require more precision to use them effectively.
Perhaps it is peoples' lack of imagination and their obsession with farming which means that these professions are shunned. After all, why farm in difficult ways when there are simpler ways to do it with other professions ?
If people were less obsessed with their "wallets", would Ritualists and Mesmers be more prominent ? I'd like to think so.
BoSSecs
Mesmers, monks and rts
Gumby
LOL, this thread makes me laugh.
@ all you ppl who dont like MMs.. did you know that an MM with a full army can do upwards of ~150 DPS, if u use Order of Undeath you can get upwards of ~250 DPS. Thats why people play MM. And SS as well.. if u pop an SS into a big mob of monsters, the damage it deals is incredible.
The reasons why mesmers aren't popular are:
a) they can't tank
b) they can't deal consistent aoe damage as well as say, an ele or necro.
c) they cant heal
Therefore, they have no REAL use in pve.. Sure they can shut down 1 caster or 1 melee, but who cares if theres like 15 of them that need to be killed? Why not just take an ele and searing flames them all.. that will shut them down easily enough.
Rits aren't played as often because.. well they're boring (at least i find them boring). Another reason they are not popular is because you are constantly on the move, and spirit spammers are not mobile. As AoE damage dealers, they cant compare to an ele or necro, As single target damage dealers or tanks, they will only ever replace warriors or rangers if they use spirit's strength, and as healers they can never replace a good monk. As a support character, paragons are a better choice.
IDEA: [skill]Spirit's Strength[/skill] + [skill]Cyclone Axe[/skill]
/rant
back on topic
PVE: Ritualist or Assassin
PvP: Ritualist
poor factions
@ all you ppl who dont like MMs.. did you know that an MM with a full army can do upwards of ~150 DPS, if u use Order of Undeath you can get upwards of ~250 DPS. Thats why people play MM. And SS as well.. if u pop an SS into a big mob of monsters, the damage it deals is incredible.
The reasons why mesmers aren't popular are:
a) they can't tank
b) they can't deal consistent aoe damage as well as say, an ele or necro.
c) they cant heal
Therefore, they have no REAL use in pve.. Sure they can shut down 1 caster or 1 melee, but who cares if theres like 15 of them that need to be killed? Why not just take an ele and searing flames them all.. that will shut them down easily enough.
Rits aren't played as often because.. well they're boring (at least i find them boring). Another reason they are not popular is because you are constantly on the move, and spirit spammers are not mobile. As AoE damage dealers, they cant compare to an ele or necro, As single target damage dealers or tanks, they will only ever replace warriors or rangers if they use spirit's strength, and as healers they can never replace a good monk. As a support character, paragons are a better choice.
IDEA: [skill]Spirit's Strength[/skill] + [skill]Cyclone Axe[/skill]
/rant
back on topic
PVE: Ritualist or Assassin
PvP: Ritualist
poor factions
crazyFanatic
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Originally Posted by LightningHell
Smart warriors.
ur probably right...
Calen The Civl
I play primarily as a ritualist and only see a handful every so many days outside of the monastery in cantha. Mesmers seem rather common to me nowadays and often see pugs looking for one in Nightfall.
From a pve standpoint, I have to say the ritualist is the rarest class.
Gumby, a good spirit spammer does not have mobility issues. They just need to place the spirits in the right areas, help the team kill the mob, and then move on to the next group within a single cycle. The set up is just slow.
And for the record, ritualists really cannot be compared to monks; they have entirely different healing mechanics.
Misunderstanding and flawed efforts of class comparison are most likely the main reasons why ritualists are so rare.
From a pve standpoint, I have to say the ritualist is the rarest class.
Gumby, a good spirit spammer does not have mobility issues. They just need to place the spirits in the right areas, help the team kill the mob, and then move on to the next group within a single cycle. The set up is just slow.
And for the record, ritualists really cannot be compared to monks; they have entirely different healing mechanics.
Misunderstanding and flawed efforts of class comparison are most likely the main reasons why ritualists are so rare.
Coloneh
Mssmers, no reason to ever play one is PvE since fast casting is useless there.
good in PvP though
good in PvP though
Pete1975
Rits, hardly seen any not surprising since they got a bit of a battering with the nerf bat.
And imo this thread is about what is the least played chars, not about the bashing or the ego massage of mesmers.
And imo this thread is about what is the least played chars, not about the bashing or the ego massage of mesmers.
azathothx
Finding a decent asn these days is pretty tough. I've only ever played with one competent assassin and he happens to be an officer in my guild. Primary mesmers aren't exactly common in PvE from what i've seen. When i first started playing GW, my initial impression was that Mesmer was a very advanced class. It wasn't just a 'hit 'em and see what happens' style affair like a warrior. It takes skill, timing and on-your-feet thinking which alot of the classes either don't have or don't need. Rits in PvE are also rare enough outside of Cantha. In my time in Elona i think i've only seen one or two, it's the same in Tyria.
In PvP however, Rits are actually popular - at least in the 4v4 RA and TA. Spirit nesters are the bane of RA and Rit healers are actually being used more in specific 4-man team builds. From what I've seen and played in the larger arenas however, Rits have been brushed aside in favour of the buffing Paragon.
In PvP however, Rits are actually popular - at least in the 4v4 RA and TA. Spirit nesters are the bane of RA and Rit healers are actually being used more in specific 4-man team builds. From what I've seen and played in the larger arenas however, Rits have been brushed aside in favour of the buffing Paragon.