Afkers/Not-doing-their-job-ers Reportable?

scrinner

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jan 2006

Are we able to report those that afk/leech in a game? What about those that walk but dont do anything. For example a monk follows the team but dont do their job. Are these viable grounds to report on?

death fuzzy

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

Nefarius Union

you cant get banned for being selfish.

Malice Black

Site Legend

Join Date: Oct 2005

Technically they are not doing anything wrong (people have different opinions on this) report away but nothing will come of it.

korcan

korcan

noobalicious

Join Date: Jun 2006

i was monking for a pug in gyala hatchery [we were about 10 minutes in] when one of our rangers tells the group that hes going to go afk to shower!

i didnt report him [probably useless] but he really pissed me off

MMSDome

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

lol no you shouldnt have to stay at your game 24/7 man.

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Admins Bane
Technically they are not doing anything wrong (people have different opinions on this) report away but nothing will come of it.
Right, people have different opinions, making it a subjective matter. Point is, there's nothing wrong with it -within the rules-, so there really isn't much anyone can do. So until ANet makes it a rule-breaker, we're stuck with these guys for the long haul.

But really, my opinion is it's definately wrong. Sure, you can AFK, but you shouldn't be rewarded for it, too. The problem is having a mechanism that can tell if you're really AFKing, without it being able to be fooled by simple bots/macros.

Clawdius_Talonious

Clawdius_Talonious

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Aug 2006

Screwston, Tejas

KOS

N/Me

I've had a monk that was following us drop, and I was our other monk, I had felt like I was the only one healing... By the time we beat the mission, I realized I probably was the only one healing, heh...

Enchanted Warrior

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/Mo

I've run across a new nuisance. It can be misread as rage quitting, but some join groups then wait 'til heavy fighting and quit. They are not mad etc, they just think it's fun to shaft the others.

Nice huh..

Jade_Onyx

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

Montreal

TSK

Sry to say this, but its not really a new nuisance. I've had this done in FoW/UW groups where they actually helped pay for the trip, then once inside take the quest and drag everything they can to you and say have fun and leave.

arcanemacabre

arcanemacabre

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Feb 2006

North Kryta Province

Angel Sharks [As]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jade_Onyx
Sry to say this, but its not really a new nuisance. I've had this done in FoW/UW groups where they actually helped pay for the trip, then once inside take the quest and drag everything they can to you and say have fun and leave.
Yeah, I just don't get this kind of griefing. I mean, it's not like they can actually sit back and enjoy the mess they caused, ya know, 'cause they left. So what's the point? It's just a waste of time for everyone.

Darcy

Darcy

Never Too Old

Join Date: Jul 2006

Rhode Island where there are no GW contests

Order of First

W/R

Just like real life, jerks will be jerks. You just get more exposure in-game due to the anonymity,

Zui

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2006

The Benecia Renovatio [RenO]

Mo/

You can report anything. ANET actualy doing anything about it, is another thing. Leeching, and AFKing is not against the rules.


By the way, I suggest you just don't PUG, or do anything that pairs you with any random players on your side. (Why would you do so in the first place!?!?) No more leechers. No more AFKers.

sykoone

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Mystical Chaos

E/

On the rare occasion that I pug, I tell the group up front that I leave on leechers. I've monked for groups, and left when I saw someone standing around in the middle of a battle. And I usually end up taking the other monk with me. I don't support leechers or AFKers at all.

netniwk

netniwk

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Mar 2005

Bellgium

W/E

SPOILER








no.

Eviance

Eviance

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Eh I forget... o_O

Biscuit of Dewm [MEEP]

R/

sykoone while I think that is the right idea some people might have an immediate emergency to take care of that only lasts but a few mins - so when you leave keep that in mind.
I have kids and don't do anything major group wise till they are in bed but if one screams out, I am going to bolt for a few mins without usually taking the time to say anything (once my daughter snuck out of bed and sliced her finger wide open). Basically sometimes things just happen and its not that they are griefers.

HOWEVER I HATE AFKERS AND FRIGGEN LEECHERS AND MOOCHERS AND RAGE QUITTERS -_- I really do wish Anet would come up with a feasable way of dealing with them. For the most part I stick to my guild groups who understand when I "bolt" which is rare but it happens. We also do not promote rage quitting in our guild unless the group is generally being a bunch of ****s and you've done nothing to promote their "anger".

However old topic, it happens, nothing atm that we can really do about it ;_;

Lenixo

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Aug 2005

the only way to get rid of this kind of griefing / leeching is a game world like in world of warcraft ( one map for everyone on the server ) and no instances.
whats that called ? static game world ?

that way you could kick someone anytime from your group or if you pull all the enemies in a map to kill your group you cant just click leave and stand in a safe outpost.

that just doesnt work in guild wars. its the way it is designed.

they could however try to implement a voting system where other group members could vote someone else out. that person would be kicked to the last outpost or something.
but there may be ways to exploit this...

Venice Queen

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2005

Washington, DC

A Most Excellent Guild [DUDE]

Mo/Me

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No.

Enchanted Warrior

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

W/Mo

Hence the addition of heroes. The pug will be less important as time goes by. Some like to tear down everything they can.. I think I heard it best expressed in the western "Tombstone"

"Doc, what drives a man like Ringo?"
"Hatred"
"Hatred? Hatred for what?"
"Being born.."

Or words to that effect. Sadly there are some truly miserable people in the world, that delight in trying to make everyone else just as miserable.

Former Ruling

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cedartown, Georgia

R/

^ Or they just like to leech missions for their own proposes. Join a group and get through the mission without doing anything :\

Phaern Majes

Phaern Majes

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Anywhere but up

The Panserbjorne [ROAR]

R/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by MMSDome
lol no you shouldnt have to stay at your game 24/7 man.
Its not about them not wanting to play 24/7. Its about them most likely knowing they need to go afk during the mission and yet joining a group anyways. Thats just plain being a jerk.

Whereas there is nothing Anet will do about this, I personally won't get them through the mission. I'll leave and find another group. Generally I just use henchies or heros anyways so I don't have this problem often. But if its a brb phone, or something like that then its no big deal. As they most likely will come back as soon as they can.

xxSilhouette

xxSilhouette

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jan 2006

Lost in the sands of time...

Blood Of Orr [BoO]

R/Rt

Well it would be nice to be able to report people who stay afk through a whole mission or whatever - beacuse it can be VERY annoying, but sometimes (not always) something important might pop up, Or someone could be like me when i was in high school - and there parents could yell at them to 'get in here' or whatever - and you can't really help that. Or an important phone call could come up - so those people don't deserve to be banned, but someone who just dissapears, and doesnt say 'afk' or even tell you why and/or stays gone through the entire mission, but if Anet banned everyone that got a report sent on them for afking - some of those people who had an important reason would get banned to. It wouldn't be fair.

lacasner

lacasner

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

Thats kinda complicated, in deciding what some one's intentions were for being afk x.x

Gorebrex

Gorebrex

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

I like the "votekick" system myself. If it appears someones trying to leech a mission/bonus/whatever, rest of party can be rid of them. I believe that could very well stop leechers cold. I think you should pull your own weight, or get out.

FexFX

Academy Page

Join Date: Sep 2006

Xen of Onslaught

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gorebrex
I like the "votekick" system myself. If it appears someones trying to leech a mission/bonus/whatever, rest of party can be rid of them. I believe that could very well stop leechers cold. I think you should pull your own weight, or get out.
Consider this my vote for a Kick feature! It would be one way to improve the overall PUG experience, and might even help to alleviate the negative image PUGing has recieved!

Further, such a feature adds a cetain level of consequence for negative behavior...if you want to leech, announce your intention! Otherwise you risk being banned!

Now what we really need is a way to bring in Heroes mid mission to make up for DCers, Ragers, and these theoretical kickers...