Fissure Armor offers NF style armor

Cherno

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Stars of Destiny

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The question has been asked in a few threads but no one seemed to ever know the answer. Now we do, You can buy NF style armor in FoW:

aaronsgh

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Warrior's Isle

Negative Zero [nO]

W/Mo

question is... is anet gonna update first generation fow armor... -_-.

Sekkira

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

That's always been there. It's the armour you get with no inherent bonuses, every tyrian armour crafter has them.

Cherno

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Stars of Destiny

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It wasn't listed on wiki, and no one seemed to be able to answer when the question was asked. I had to make a second trip as I didn't have the elonian leather, but I have the set now and it works great.

lyra_song

lyra_song

Hell's Protector

Join Date: Oct 2005

R/Mo

Does this mean FOW costs more now.

Cacheelma

Cacheelma

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

The Ascalon Union

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sekkira
That's always been there. It's the armour you get with no inherent bonuses, every tyrian armour crafter has them.
Now now, the question is: Can you put an insignia into these no-bonus armors? Or you can only do that with the FoW's no-bonus one or Tyrian/Canthan's No-bonus too?

slimreb

Academy Page

Join Date: Aug 2005

SoD - Stars of Destiny

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I was with Cherno for both runs and the no bonus armor can have insignias placed into them. I was going to get my ranger armor that way but figured I never use anything other than Druids anyways. So with the prices on those Radiant Insignia it is much cheaper to just get the Druids.

I am not sure if you can do the same with Tyrian/Cathan non-bonus armors. Might have to test that one out and see what happens.

Rhedd

Rhedd

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

You ever have to clean up after a Moa bird?

True Solunastra [SLA] Profession: Moa Wrangler

In every OTHER place, non-stat armor is far cheaper than the other sets. On this list, it's the same price/materials.

If it can't have insignia placed on it, it's got to be the WORST deal in all of Guild Wars, hands-down.

Somebody buy it and find out. ^_^
Edit: Somebody did. Good. Nice to know!

Let us know how that Tyrian/Canthan test goes!

Sekkira

Sekkira

Forge Runner

Join Date: Apr 2005

Canberra, AU

Insignias are only used on Elonian armour. Obsidian != Elonian therefore, no.

garethporlest18

garethporlest18

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

[HiDe]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sekkira
Insignias are only used on Elonian armour. Obsidian != Elonian therefore, no.
Well apparently it does work as he got it and insignias can be used on it. They would update the FoW armor with one of those sets, as they did it with Factions.

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

Quote:
Originally Posted by lyra_song
Does this mean FOW costs more now.
The OP would save 35 whole piles of dust by getting the Enchanters over the clean armour. I suppose Insignias would set you back a bit but you're paying for the convenience and durability.

Will it ever be possible to apply Insignias to 'old' armour sets?

Corpselooter

Corpselooter

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Netherlands, Woerden

Glob of Ectospasm [GoE]

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Quote:
Originally Posted by makosi
The OP would save 35 whole piles of dust by getting the Enchanters over the clean armour. I suppose Insignias would set you back a bit but you're paying for the convenience and durability.

Will it ever be possible to apply Insignias to 'old' armour sets?
No. They won't.

Cherno

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Stars of Destiny

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You can't place insignias on the existing pieces of armor. I tested it on another character that I have Fissure on.

True, the base set is just as expensive as the rogues set, BUT I now have the option to change out the stats if I ever want to without having to buy a whole new set of fissure. That was worth it for me and is probably worth it to anyone who is going to get it. Also, they don't have the options available for all the new flavors of armor yet. If I wanted to get Ranger fow with the Beastmaster armor I can't unless I buy the base set and put the insignias on.

Anyway, was just making this thread because I had seen at least 3 threads on the subject (one started by me) with no one able to confirm. Now it is confirmed.

Vengal

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jul 2005

A/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Corpselooter
No. They won't.
lol I love it when people answer questions like this which such complete surety. Kinda like those who were absolutely certain the Rit and Sin would get no new skills in NF. Please.

Ask about it enough and ANet will probably do something about it.

|pyro|

|pyro|

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jun 2006

Me/

If the item has an empty instignia slot it can be place,d this armor doesnt, so no it can not

makosi

makosi

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2006

"Pre-nerf" is incorrect. It's pre-buff.

Requirement Begins With R [notQ]

Me/

The reason I'm skeptical is because when Factions was released they changed every single crafted ele armour. Mine was +15AL vs. Fire changed to +10 vs. Elemental and +10 vs. Fire.

From that, I'd presume its possible to change the existing armours to allow insignias. Probably a colossal task but possible.

Cherno

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Stars of Destiny

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by |pyro|
If the item has an empty instignia slot it can be place,d this armor doesnt, so no it can not
I just told you it can accept insignias. There is no "insignia slot" on armor in any campaign.

Here's proof:


RoadKill97

RoadKill97

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jun 2006

Legion of Zeal [Zeal]

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It's a week since I checked this, but if I remember correctly, the Warrior's insignia armor required Deldrimor Steel Ingots. The other materials were same as usual (Iron Ingots, Shards and Ectos).

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vengal
lol I love it when people answer questions like this which such complete surety. Kinda like those who were absolutely certain the Rit and Sin would get no new skills in NF. Please.

Ask about it enough and ANet will probably do something about it.
I highly doubt ArenaNet will change the old armor sets, because as you can see from the picture, they are still available, should you not want insignia armor for some reason.

apoggy

apoggy

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Manchester, England

Farming Zaishen [keYs]

Mo/E

It is Elonian armour, after all it did require Elonian Leather

MMSDome

MMSDome

Raged Out

Join Date: Sep 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Vengal
lol I love it when people answer questions like this which such complete surety. Kinda like those who were absolutely certain the Rit and Sin would get no new skills in NF. Please.

Ask about it enough and ANet will probably do something about it.
somehow i just cant see 15k gladiator armor having the same stats as platemail armor. it just isnt right...

winkgood

winkgood

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

GoL

R/

If you really can add insignias then this is complete BS. I just crafted armor for my warrior a week ago. Bad move by Anet. If you are gonna allow it on obsidian armor then at least make the change retroactive.

knoll

knoll

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jul 2005

Washington State.

[ToA]

W/

If it is that then allow all Tyrian and Cantha armors to change, only if they own nightfall.

Carinae

Carinae

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jun 2005

Inside

Fifteen Over Fifty [Rare]

IMHO all FoW and 15k sets everywhere should be updated to support Insignias

Cherno

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Stars of Destiny

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by Carinae Dragonblood
IMHO all FoW and 15k sets everywhere should be updated to support Insignias
Agree. I would love to change out some of the stats on my existing fow for other characters but guess I can't (yet...anet likes to change things on whim, see material storage for canthans only as a recent example)

I love my 15k pyro, have still never found another male ele armor that I liked in comparison, but would like to be able to use some different stats for it now.

Rhedd

Rhedd

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: May 2005

You ever have to clean up after a Moa bird?

True Solunastra [SLA] Profession: Moa Wrangler

Speaking of the material storage, that's actually exactly what I expect to happen with the armor; Only NF armor accepts insignias UNTIL the next chapter is released, then they change all of the armor over to the insignia system.

In other words, use insignia armor as a selling point until it doesn't matter anymore, then give it to everyone, making everyone happy... just like the expanded storage.

aaronsgh

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2005

Warrior's Isle

Negative Zero [nO]

W/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by winkgood
If you really can add insignias then this is complete BS. I just crafted armor for my warrior a week ago. Bad move by Anet. If you are gonna allow it on obsidian armor then at least make the change retroactive.
agreed... update all fow to be coherent.. fyi, there are currently 3 generations of fow

1st generation: armor name being without the word 'obsidian' ie. just 'gladiators hauberk'

2nd generation: armor name with the word 'obsidian' in it.

3rd generation: armor name with the word 'obsidian' and the armor being able to be insignia'ed




not ranting about incoherence, but fow owners need a word of assurance watsoever that fows will be made universal with updates... if not, its just too much a risk to spend 2 mill on a set of armor that might be obsolete or incoherent with the current sets in future updates...


rant: on a personal note, I'm pretty peezed off coz I've updated my fow set and parts of it due to updates to globalized armor effects and additions of fow pieces previously unavailable and now... new fow armors insciptable.. (spent almost.. hmm 3-4 mill on replacing/renewing fow for 1 char) i think i'm done keeping my fow up to date... its just too much of a hassle.

anet needs to say something.. c'mon

RTSFirebat

RTSFirebat

The Humanoid Typhoon

Join Date: May 2005

UK

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

R/

Have to wait till next Frog talk, then someone can ask.

In the meantime, as has already been said, more then likely they will allow older armors to be insignia'ed at a later date. Afterall A.net does need to keep selling copies of Nightfall to be profitable.

I don't blame them, in the meantime those of us who have FoW will have to make do.

HawkofStorms

HawkofStorms

Hall Hero

Join Date: Aug 2005

E/

Quote:
Originally Posted by makosi
The reason I'm skeptical is because when Factions was released they changed every single crafted ele armour. Mine was +15AL vs. Fire changed to +10 vs. Elemental and +10 vs. Fire.

From that, I'd presume its possible to change the existing armours to allow insignias. Probably a colossal task but possible.
Yes, and it took like 9 weeks for them to do that.

Priest Of Sin

Priest Of Sin

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Sitting upon Kerrigan's Throne.

Live For The Swarm [ZERG]

Me/N

Being able to insigna my armor would make my day... unfortunatly, Radiant Insignias would likely jump to 30k or MORE, because everyone wants their mana... Is it so much to ask to be able to swap my FoW boots out with a bloodstained insignia without buying a new set

lightblade

lightblade

Forge Runner

Join Date: May 2005

The Etereal Guard

Me/Mo

Quote:
Originally Posted by Cherno
I just told you it can accept insignias. There is no "insignia slot" on armor in any campaign.

Here's proof:




Wat!!?? I don't have enough money to afford another set...can't they just make my enchanter set accept insignias??

Cybah

Cybah

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Europe

Guardians Of Eternal Sands [GoeS]

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i'm pissed off too xD

lets all hope they'll change this until next chapter or sooner.