Petition To Change HoH from 6vs6 back to 8vs8

Living Legend

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Apr 2006

R O M E[Rome]

W/E

You can either sign it or not, give your own opinion and whatever.
I don't even know why it was changed, all there is now is hero teams, it's not that there bad but its basically vamped up version of any last missions of pve, at least before when it was 8vs8 you had at least some tactics, most guilds usually have a core 8, i've never heard of a core 6.

Aera

Aera

Forge Runner

Join Date: Dec 2005

Galactic President Superstar Mc [awsm]

E/

Although this is the 384975385978974th petition about this, I'll still /sign it

The Pointless

The Pointless

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Stuck in the UK

Rage International [RAGE]

W/Me

/not signed

Please stop with these petitions. I've said it before, ANet is a games developer, not a local authority.

The Bloodrose

Academy Page

Join Date: Nov 2006

CA

Dark Order of Innoruuk [DOI]

R/Rt

/notsigned to both 8v8 and removing heros.

The Hand Of Death

The Hand Of Death

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cavalon

The Last Pirates (SaVY)

N/

/not signed

And go back to the days of IWAY and VIMWAY? no

daraaksii

daraaksii

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Oct 2005

/signed

but everybody knows that A-net wont change it back..

luilui

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Mar 2006

/signed a million time

just look at the decreasing number of district u can tell no1 like it.

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Hand Of Death
/not signed

And go back to the days of IWAY and VIMWAY? no
dont think u have thought it through.
what's wrong with iway and vimway? how's searing flame and paragon way better then them? Stop complaining about iway and shit dude, because people will always run lame builds rather it's 6v6, 8v8, gvg all the same.

heroway is simply bad.

The Pointless

The Pointless

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Jul 2006

Stuck in the UK

Rage International [RAGE]

W/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by luilui
what's wrong with iway and vimway? how's searing flame and paragon way better then them? Stop complaining about iway and shit dude, because people will always run lame builds rather it's 6v6, 8v8, gvg all the same.
It's skill-less, pathetic, and the sign of a poor player who slaps the "nerf" label on any change that doesn't go in their favour.

-Deviance-

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Apr 2006

Florida

Save The Dolyak [NUKE]

W/R

/not signed

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Pointless
It's skill-less, pathetic, and the sign of a poor player who slaps the "nerf" label on any change that doesn't go in their favour.
**The same thing could be said for Heroway, SF, and Avatar pressure ....

tomcruisejr

tomcruisejr

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

you're pathetic and if you dont like 6vs6, go play WoW.

youve never heard of core 6? just take 2 away from core 8 and youll have a core RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOin 6.

Dalimoor_Kalkire

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2006

[DoA] - The Darknights of Ascalon

R/

I'm on the fence as to what I think, but this flame fest has me thinking I'll just put my pen back in my pocket. Is it hot in here or is it just me?

Spader

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Sep 2006

W/Mo

there's been way to many of these threads.

/not signed
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King_of_Eles

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

The Royal Dragon Riders

E/

/signed

There will always be "flavor of the month" builds. Anet will nerf em and the game will change a bit. But I do believe that more strategy is required in HA like there was in 8v8. NOw we only have one-2man teams. IF you want Heroway go to the hero battles.

The Hand Of Death

The Hand Of Death

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cavalon

The Last Pirates (SaVY)

N/

So now that new noob builds come out like SF and avatar pressure, you want to go back to the old ways of IWAY and VIMWAY because you already have the skills unlocked to participate in them? Before NF I saw a lot of different builds in HA, it is heroway that is ruining it, which is not 6v6 fault more than it is that they are allowed there. Stop complaining, 6v6 is better. You want to play 8v8 just gvg.

The Hand Of Death

The Hand Of Death

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Oct 2005

Cavalon

The Last Pirates (SaVY)

N/

Quote:
Originally Posted by King_of_Eles
/signed

There will always be "flavor of the month" builds. Anet will nerf em and the game will change a bit. But I do believe that more strategy is required in HA like there was in 8v8. NOw we only have one-2man teams. IF you want Heroway go to the hero battles.
Like they nerfed IWAY. Now people may say they did, but it just substituted the imperfection and made it work, IWAY was truely nerfed when they changed HA keep it out.

Badger Muffin

Badger Muffin

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

Underworld Refugees

N/Me

/signed

only 2 make the ppl shut the hell up

master_of_puppets

master_of_puppets

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2006

I dont like guilds...

Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Hand Of Death
So now that new noob builds come out like SF and avatar pressure, you want to go back to the old ways of IWAY and VIMWAY because you already have the skills unlocked to participate in them? Before NF I saw a lot of different builds in HA, it is heroway that is ruining it, which is not 6v6 fault more than it is that they are allowed there. Stop complaining, 6v6 is better. You want to play 8v8 just gvg.
Wtf lol with the new faction changes unlocking skills is so fast and easy, its not even a factor anymore to playing PvP. And yes it is 6 vs 6 fault that there are lots of heroways, I'm not sure if you know your math but in case you dont let me tell you that for 6 v 6 you need 2 less people/NPC's for your team than for 8 v 8. Anyone can solo HA with 3 heroes which thay can customize and command, and 2 henchies. With 8 player teams you could take all 4 henchmen but that would make it a lot harder to win. Harder to win means less people play heroway. You didn't even state a single why 6 v 6 is "better" probably because you dont even have one. And less precious time to make groups is not a valid reason. And the last sentence is the most retarded part of your post, I'm not even gonna start with that.

/Signed for millionth + 1 time for restoring to 8 v 8 and removal of heroes. I can see someone would want 6 v 6 to stay but anyone who thinks HA is better with heroes is a total idiot. Im not sure what lame reasons Aretardnet had for putting in Heroes to HA and I dont know what arguments they have for keeping them, because probably about 90% of HA'ers would want Heroes to be removed.

DC_Ross_Dark

DC_Ross_Dark

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jul 2005

Luxembourg

[FcUK] Forgot The Ghostlyyyyy [WM] War Machine

W/E

i won't kill myself if they don't change it back, but even so, i prefered 8v8 to 6v6.

/signed.

Sniper Corps

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

Zero Mercy

R/Mo

People get Fiercly angry over this. Of course i had to laugh when i saw Avatar Pressure and SF being called noob Builds. Sure enough, a new build comes out and people hate it. As for the Heroway problem and the 6v6, just adapt to it. Heroes are Still Computers, and therefore have Flaws. Find the flaws and Exploit them. If you Have trouble with my last sentance, heres a Example. Put SS on a Hero. They don't have the reasonable intellect to not attack. Same with Backfire, empathy, etc.

Whiplashr

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jan 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalimoor_Kalkire
I'm on the fence as to what I think, but this flame fest has me thinking I'll just put my pen back in my pocket. Is it hot in here or is it just me?
Insecure people who are not very bright to begin with can't help but flame when they argue against something. They are unable to form a substantive opinion, and such flames make them feel better about themselves. Simple pschcology. Sadly, these kinds of people are not even smart enough to realize how transparently their behavior reflects their insecurities.

tomcruisejr

tomcruisejr

Banned

Join Date: Apr 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalimoor_Kalkire
I'm on the fence as to what I think, but this flame fest has me thinking I'll just put my pen back in my pocket. Is it hot in here or is it just me?
dude this is the 1762nd petition about this and do you expect a no flame fest? we have heard the same arguments being repeated by same posters. how about some "flames" for a change?

Sophitia Leafblade

Sophitia Leafblade

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Nov 2005

Dragon Slayer Guild [DSG]

R/

/not signed

HoH is way more fun as 6Vs6

B Ephekt

B Ephekt

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Feb 2006

Team Crystalline [TC]

Mo/

/Signed

I'd rather fight blood spike and IWAY than one guy and 5 NPCs. Just fix the maps so scrubspike can't run around for 20 minutes. IWAY wasn't even really annoying, and wasn't even that popular for the month or two before the 6v6 change. And VIM? Did that ever even win?

Maria The Princess

Maria The Princess

Forge Runner

Join Date: Mar 2006

Aequitas Deis

/notsigned to bring back 8v8

/signed to keep heros for pve only (and heros arena of curse)

Anarion Silverhand

Anarion Silverhand

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Denmark

None

There is no need for flamefests on this forum. And this is not the first thread on this subject.

Closed.

-Anarion.

Undivine

Undivine

of Brackenwood

Join Date: Oct 2005

Ontario, Canada

I think by this point we really don't need any more of these. And incidentally, Gaile was in the international district of Kamedan on Holloween and said it will not be changed back. They believe it has improved the situation enourmously.

Closed.

Edit: Oh, nice timing Anarion.