Any thoughts on this?

Nice thinking of getting rich in such short time veteran, but if i recall correct anet blocks acounts faster if they see the money on it suddenly increased for quite a amount.
this is of course the idea behind blocking ebay buyers, but who i wouldn't be suprised if they mistaken you for one...

to bad i guessed on that sword couldn't even sell it because of the skin

To all the immature QQing babies out there:

Buying/Selling items for prices that are not reasonably priced (subjective) does not constitue a scam since you can choose not to buy it and get it from some one else or farm it yourself.

Paying 60gold instead of 60plat that is agreeded upon before hand for a item in the trade panel is a scam.

Getting all your 1337 friends and their mom, sisters and grandmas to complaint about someone to support/force a temp ban is a scam and should be punishable with account deletion since it serves as online bullying and fraud similar to the time when GvG players were getting their buddies to hijack the opposition vent/TS or spammed pms to lag the opposition accounts in order to trigger err07s.

Grow up and learn to play FFS.

If this truely happened, then Anet seriously need to relook at their SOP for account banning.

Edit:

As mentioned by some, some official word post further investigation is needed on this issue, as it reflect badly on Anet ability to manage their own game, furthermore if this issue is not resolved with/without making example of those involved, it will sent a strong message to encourage such future occurrances of ingame bullying/harressment. Not to mention widespread discontentment and loss of confidence in Anet. Should Anet's stance on this is to encourage such practices, i am sure then this game and its ingame community are not worth spending time on any further.

You cant be banned for selling an in-game item for an exorbinant amount. If you could, everyone selling things for 100k+e would be banned as well. At NF release, low supply of endgame greens means people could charge what they want, and people with Uber cash could spend it. What's the big deal with that?

Well, the way the world works, the banned guy should have reported the people for harassing him before they reported him out of spite. Lol, dumb isn't it.

I don't think a 72 hour suspension is really too big of a deal. Just too bad the crybabies got their way.

A Slight update, The account was banned early yesterday morning with a message stating that it will be banned for 68 hours. 24 hours later the account still has the same amount of hours remaining on the ban. I personally think this is disgusting. The fact that Arenanet would ban first and ask questions later is just disturbing.
The fact that nearly a day later still nothing has been accomplished is disturbing.
WoW is in fact looking better and better every day. I do not believe that him losing valuable play time should go un-repayed. I know personally that if his account will not be re-instated that I will be packing my bags and moving on. I have played this game through every nerf since gwen burned us all in the town. Arenanet seem's to purposly punish it's players and we sit there and take it in hopes that they will see what they are doing.

Sorry to hear about the difficulty your friend experienced in regards to the ban. The 68 hours being static could be a bug, which in anycase i know isnt helping with the problem. The only thing i have for you is please to be patient.

Seening this from Anet perception, it may not be too difficult understand why they did what they did ( but i dont neccessary agree with the methods). Considering the high number (not sure exactly how many complaints from the guild was registered) of complaint ticket raised against your friend, in any normal case Anet will have to take the matter seriously and act on it as quickly as possible. Unfortunately, in this case Anet do not have exact details on the situation other than the 1 sided story told by the complainers. Hence the temp ban serves two purposes:

1) To freeze the account to prevent removing/transfer of potential evidence involved in the abuse while the game logs are checked for verification.

2) To prevent the abuser if applicable to continue to do further harm ingame.

These i believe are part of the operating procedures to safeguard the game and are immediate actions taken should the number of complaints reach a certain cutoff point based on the comments.

Other than just posting here, i would advise that your friend seek a support ticket with NCsoft support as well and also pm the community manager Gaile Gray with the title: wrongfully banned, please help with a detail written account of events. Doing these will be the most realistic approach toward solving the problems rather than suggesting WoW over GW which might bring flames towards yourself possibly by forum members of the offending guild in question. After doing so, also please provide Anet with some time to investigate the chat logs so that they can better determine the real offender. Please also note that should your friend who got banned engaged in exchange of words deemed offensive and bannable, then unfortunately in this case he has fallen into a trap which he cant redeemed himself out off.

Best of luck otherwise and be sure that the real offenders will not go unpunished.

Who remembers the first days when the SF greens were available...
Brohn's set was sold at a whopping amount of 550k.
Seeing the price after 3 months and then claiming they been scammed is just a load of codswallop.

Sounds to me like the person in question has been the victim of a bunch of "hard-to-stumac babies" who in the first place had the amount of cash so basically it's THEIR fault.
The seller even made deals when they coudl'tn come up with the given quota he first set. so saying he scammed them after he was actually being friendly and lowering his bidding rpice soudns too low to describe.

I hope the "babies" will be penalised for their actions.

shamefull,embaressing and sad.
more and more we can see the truth is a side story and the whiners gets the pat on the back.

hope it will work out for the sake of us all.

There is not and never has been any point whatsoever in trying to contact A-net about anything. They simply respond with one of several form letters. They do not actually DO anything about individual issues.

If enuff people complain about something they will have Graille Gay make an official statement , which may or may not be true, but will show A-net in a good light.

It is a free game, there is no monthly fee. I accepted long ago that A-net does not care about me once I have bought the game.

I am certainly upset about the ban, especially the reasons for it, but when all is said and done I understand that this is A-nets way. They are not concerned with what is right or fair, only with control.

That being said, I don't see any reason to continue this thread. I am neither going to post or read any further.

The game is free, but you have to deal with the utter lack of community management that is A-net.

If I could not deal with this I would move to WoW or another game like it.

It is a trade-off, No monthly fee and no service and support, or, pay a monthly fee and get service and support.

I LOVE my guild and all the people in it, and it is unlikely i would ever truly "leave" GW while the guild remains.

Nuff said.

Peace all.

Sorry to hear you do not intend to post more in this thread veteran. I personally am 100% behind you and if the ban is not lifted I think we should ALL, as a community, barrage anet with complaints.

GAILE, FROGGY, whoever: Please right this wrong!

Yeah this is generally the case, in 100% of cases in these types of things, people never tell the whole story.

ArenaNet retains chat logs for a certain amount of time, so they will have seen any conversation going back and forth. The other players might have successfully goaded the OP into saying something abusive, and that got him banned.

Members of Guild Wars Guru I formally request your help.

My friends account was in fact re-instated but his storage was completely reset.

In his storage my friend has app. 250 ecto, Over 250 shards, Nearly a full stack of Ruby's / Shards.
This is the account of a person who has worked his way into 4 sets of FOW armor(Which now thanx to Anet are completely useless). Along with sever Perfect weapons.

This should not happen. I dont care WHAT Anet has to say about this but THIS SHOULD NOT BE GOING ON. ONE OF THE GAMES MOST EXPERIENCED PLAYERS SHOULD NOT TO DEAL WITH SOME THINK LIKE THIS.
PLEASE I IMPLORE YOU TO HELP.
Gaile, Forum mods, Somebody. This is just wrong.

If anet works that way you could screw anyone just by saying he scammed you

God Im so pissed off I cant type straight.
This is horrible.
And the thing that really gets me the most is there is some
Nooblet guild out there reporting people and getting accounts banned.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH ANET?
DO THEY NOT EVEN CARE?
WHY DONT I HAVE A BLUNT TO CALM ME DOWN?
-.-

calm down a bit
*hands over a little stack of ales*

so now you are a bit calmer, let's see at the options we have:

1 we #$%^& the guild which we don't even know, and just get laughed at...
not an good option

2 we whine all day's and nights untill we get banned, flamed and hated by the guildwarsguru community, and we don't get any further
nah, not an good option

3 we get civilized and send in a ticket to the guildwars support or contact gaile/jeff if they could do something about this mistake (and possible give those unkown guild people a punishment)
sounds a lot better

I would be hella pissed as well... Anet sh*t the bed on this one.

Nice one Anet, way to go...

1. Its completely irrelevant how much effort the seller did to get an item, or how much it cost to him. Its the buyer's responsibillity to check the item and consider if its worth the gold.

2. Players should not be banned (not even temporary) just because X people complain. Such a report system invites people to abuse it.

3. Actually I can't have a pity to someone who had 250 ecto, 250 shard and lots of more stuff and asks lots of gold for 'free' items. I'm sure he'll find a way to make new profit.

WTF Anet can delete an accounts storage on a whim?Thats just retarded!!
Either that facts are`nt what has been stated fo far,or Anet really has made a complete RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO up of this.If its the latter then nice one Anet *rollseyes*

if the story is as true and nothing was withheld then a BIG BIG BOOOOO to A NET
this is not acceptable
~DA

I'm sorry, but if it's only a temporary ban, I really don't see what the big deal is. I swear people are never happy with what A-Net does... EVER

Well the issue I'd have is banning before its proven....even if it is precautionary. Dunno might have something to do with being American, but last time I checked you're supposed to prove guilt before punishing. Might just be me though :S

Though I suppose one could argue that you are kept in jail or have to pay bail during your trial....but meh technicalities.

(No I didn't read the whole thing, and no I don't know if they banned him on for a reason or just because he "may" of did something. If above is not the case then ignore it )

When Nightfall first came out, I too rushed to to the end and picked up a green that I sold for 100k + ectos. The price isn't just for some eBayer. There was extremely high demand and extremely low supply. Some people are willing to deal out a lot of their legitimately earned funds to be among the first to have an item.

I doubt he got banned simply for good economical practices. If he did, then hopefully the matter will turn out in his favor.

wow thats messed up. hopefully those guys all get hit by semis and die slow painful deaths.

The issue isnt about his ban any longer, it was lifted, The issue is now that Anet wiped his storage vault (Cash, Ectos, Shards etc...).

Ok I know no one wants to compaire to real life but....look at the PS3, people buy it for 550/650$ (depends on model) and sell it on Ebay for 3000$, I've even heard about one being sold 13000$.

The buyer Knows the price are gonna drop, but still decides to buy one at outrageous price. This is simply taking advantage of the situation.

What is sony going to do if many people complain, take away you Life saving's, I dont think so. Anet needs to fix this right now!

This is just stupid. What's the message here? Don't sell anything? And to take away items from a pertsons storage is just wrong - unless "proven" they were a bot or selling ingame gold for cash.

Anet is taking this anti gold making stuff way too far - to the point that it was suggested that items for hero armor has limited drops per char, suggesting that you don't sell it. "hint" they don't want ppl farming the stuff.

And I wonder why my friends list continues to have less online than offline.
And most of them did not purchase NF - guess they made a good choice, with all the changes and things not "done" yet.

ign - Huntress Velasca

Just one remark to the person who said "What if I sell firey flame spitters for 20K when it costs me 5 scorched lorestones? I'm not a scammer!". Yes, you are a scammer if you don't explicitely let your buyer know that's a colector item you can farm in 5 minuts and advertise it as a "very rare" item because of its uncommon stats. I see plenty of these trades in-game and here on guru auctions, and that is a scam.

However, it's a completely different story for the OP's friend. As everybody said, when those weapons were sold, they were extremely rare as they were only available in place 99% of the players hadn't reached yet. And that was green items. Anyone will half a brain (and having played enough GW to accumulate 150 plats) knows the price of a green don't stay that high. Especially when they see many players selling it in town. So I'm sorry for your friend, and hope he'll still have his millions after the ban

The wiping of the storage is disgusting, since ANet would obviously be going over the account they would definetely know (when they usually claim in cases like this) what was in it and how much of each was in it. They can't really claim "oh, sorry, we don't like to give out or restore items if they're lost because we don't know if you had them." this time, can they. Fight for an answer! Reply Gaile Grey, reply! Although lately, all she's done is make bad jokes, get pissy at people when they say "i don't really like this", and commend people way too much for small compliments, just because it justifies her existance that little bit more than it already is >.>

You see, the problem in a situation like this is that Gaille would never personally respond to a problem. Any attempt to contact Anet results in form letters. Just like there would never be an official response in the "Anyone else bored?" forum. Any responce to it would probably have something to do with the next pointless "Fun weekend event" Or an upcoming mini-pet/dye.

The fact is Anet would never admit their wrong in any of their doings and to a certain degree they have the right to do so considering they already do have our money. For Anet to actually respond to this they would have to admit that the all mighty one's made an honest mistake. Somehow in 17 months of GW I have yet to hear an apology made for any of the multitude of mistakes that where made all on behalf of Anet.

But hey I have to be the biggest idiot of all considering I have payed a little over 150$ buying the 3 chapters and do play daily. Jokes on me ^_^