Need Mac Advice Please!

K-fox

K-fox

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

Hey i use a mac and have recently brought guildwars nightfall and i am waiting for windows xp to arrive in order to run it through parallels.
But in the meantime is there a shell or something i can download in order to get it running for my mac it is intel with mac osx

please help.

l)l2UNl(

l)l2UNl(

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

my first question is WHY did u buy a mac? IMO they are not as useful as PC but i guess they do have the multimedia programs that come along with them.

im not positive but i dont think they have a mac version of the game nor do they have a mod to run it however, you could always attempt to DL a pc emulator but GL with that...

K-fox

K-fox

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

well no they dont have a mac version but thats where parallels comes it is an advanced emulator but i need windows xp for it, plus scine i edit movies on a mac, macs a by far got the top softwear for that plus not alot of bugs.

i need just something in the meantime to run it like a shell or something downloadable

combatchuck

combatchuck

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/

The first thing you should know is that Parallels will not run Guild Wars. You will either need to run Boot Camp or Wine. Wine is the free option, and with the new update it's supposed to work quite well. I'll dig up some links to guide you through that, and edit this post. Don't believe people when they say you should just return it, they don't know what they're talking about.

http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=5903 - How well you can expect Guild Wars to work in Wine.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/darwine/ - The Mac-specific distribution of Wine.

http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=237910 - The Darwine help forum.

As far as compatibility goes, your best bet is to run in Boot Camp. I cannot stress enough, Guild Wars will not work in Parallels. Parallels has no 3D acceleration. Boot Camp is just a boot loader that will allow Windows to run on your Mac, complete with video drivers and no Mac OS. If that's what you want to do.

K-fox

K-fox

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

how come parallels wont its pretty much exatly the same and with this link your going to give me will it be all downloadable?

l)l2UNl(

l)l2UNl(

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by combatchuck
The first thing you should know is that Parallels will not run Guild Wars. You will either need to run Boot Camp or Wine. Wine is the free option, and with the new update it's supposed to work quite well. I'll dig up some links to guide you through that, and edit this post. Don't believe people when they say you should just return it, they don't know what they're talking about.
oh yea totally 4got bout wine...

K-fox

K-fox

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

is wine a stand alone program which will run it or does it require other things?

combatchuck

combatchuck

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by K-fox
how come parallels wont its pretty much exatly the same and with this link your going to give me will it be all downloadable?
Parallels has no 3D acceleration. Guild Wars requires 3D acceleration. At best, you will get 2 fps. At worst, you will get a blue screen.

If you want to run Guild Wars in a window, Wine is your best bet.

Quote:
Originally Posted by K-fox
is wine a stand alone program which will run it or does it require other things?
Wine is a pretty unique program. It's sort of a standalone program. What it does is intercepts all the commands that a Windows program sends out, and translates them into something OSX (or Linux, or BSD, or whatever) can understand. It's basically "emulating" the fact that there is a Windows computer running, when in fact there isn't.

edit: Oh, and Wine is totally free. There are some catches, though. You'll mostly be on your own for setup and support, and it's not anything close to a Mac-like user experience. If you're not comfortable wading around in config files and command lines, just wait for your copy of XP and use Boot Camp.

K-fox

K-fox

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by combatchuck
The first thing you should know is that Parallels will not run Guild Wars. You will either need to run Boot Camp or Wine. Wine is the free option, and with the new update it's supposed to work quite well. I'll dig up some links to guide you through that, and edit this post. Don't believe people when they say you should just return it, they don't know what they're talking about.

http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?iVersionId=5903 - How well you can expect Guild Wars to work in Wine.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/darwine/ - The Mac-specific distribution of Wine.

http://sourceforge.net/forum/forum.php?forum_id=237910 - The Darwine help forum.

As far as compatibility goes, your best bet is to run in Boot Camp. I cannot stress enough, Guild Wars will not work in Parallels. Parallels has no 3D acceleration. Boot Camp is just a boot loader that will allow Windows to run on your Mac, complete with video drivers and no Mac OS. If that's what you want to do.
ok so i have downloaded darwine SDK 0.9.10 is there anything else i need to do?

K-fox

K-fox

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

ok would you be able to post me a clear list of instructions pretty much what ineed to do?

combatchuck

combatchuck

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by K-fox
ok so i have downloaded darwine SDK 0.9.10 is there anything else i need to do?
You don't want the Software Development Kit, you want the binary release of the client, from this link.

Sadly, after that point, you're going to be on your own. I don't own an Intel Mac, and have never seen Darwine install. If you need some help, I would suggest #macintosh on the DALnet IRC network. They've always been helpful to me, they should be willing to help you. As long as you ask nicely, of course.

K-fox

K-fox

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

alright man thanks for all that hopefully ill be able to have a play round and get something working if i need any more help i just post so keep a little eye on this post thanks!

combatchuck

combatchuck

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/

I'll do the best I can, and I hope you post back your results! I am planning to buy a Mac soon, it would be excellent to know if I could get Guild Wars working on it.

K-fox

K-fox

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

ok i have darwine x86-0.9.12 download i have chucked guild wars in and clicked on setup in the guildwars disc. the message that comes up is unable to locate x11.app. make sure its been installed?

l)l2UNl(

l)l2UNl(

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by K-fox
ok i have darwine x86-0.9.12 download i have chucked guild wars in and clicked on setup in the guildwars disc. the message that comes up is unable to locate x11.app. make sure its been installed?
its not darwine's prob u gotta install the x11 from the Tiger dvd u got heres a more detailed explanation
http://raymo.wordpress.com/2006/05/26/darwine-how-to/

friday9x

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/

Hey, wow, what a bunch of jerks.

Parallels will not run Guild Wars, very well

2fps LOL!!!

Use Bootcamp, Its free for now and it is fantastic. Dont void your apple care by installing some weird program. Use the Beta..
TRUST ME!!! IT WORKS FOR ME!!

Dont try to help people when you DONT know what your talking about. I have a macbook and im running nightfall right now.

Im running Mac OS 10.4.7 with XP SP2 installed and I can help you out in any way possible, I have sucessfuly done bootcamp on 10 diffrent computers and I use guild wars nightfall. One thing that you have to watch out for there are some compatibility issues with bootcamp and not using full screen mode.. It does a BSOD when ever a mission starts.

Message me ingame at <<<< or you can email me with questions at Friday9x(At)gmail(dot)com

friday9x

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...68#post2224968

Erudition

Erudition

Academy Page

Join Date: Oct 2006

Q&A section

Unique Warriors [UnWr]

I managed to get Guild Wars runnign under Wine on linux a few weeks ago.. but that was quite hard work. Besides now it's supposed to work wuite well.
Also, WINE (= Wine Is Not an Emulator) isn't an emulator, unlike what was stated above. It's an API that can handle windows requests on other OSs, mainly Linux.

K-fox

K-fox

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

ok heres the situation i dont have xp and i am waiting to try get it so boot camp will have to wait for a while and i have darwine 86 one but i cant seem to get it working i have followed all instructions on this link please look at it and check out my post at the bottom of the page

http://raymo.wordpress.com/2006/05/26/darwine-how-to/

really need help on getting this darwine thing to work with guild wars

l)l2UNl(

l)l2UNl(

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Erudition
I managed to get Guild Wars runnign under Wine on linux a few weeks ago.. but that was quite hard work.
he said its hard but i really cant help u much further as i have never tried this on MAC. but if u followed all those directions it should work... are you still getting error message?

Gildor Took

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Australia, 3rd rock from the sun

Mo/

If WINE doesn't work try CrossOver its still in beta phase though.
http://www.codeweavers.com/products/cxmac/

friday9x

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/

the problem with wine is that it will void your warrenty that apple gives you. Bootcamp is the only option that you have for duel booting.

Darwine is good for non Intel based mac's. he's running the new 10.4

l)l2UNl(

l)l2UNl(

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by friday9x
the problem with wine is that it will void your warrenty that apple gives you. Bootcamp is the only option that you have for duel booting.

Darwine is good for non Intel based mac's. he's running the new 10.4
true...
ehh follow his advice just get bootcamp

combatchuck

combatchuck

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/

Quote:
Originally Posted by friday9x
the problem with wine is that it will void your warrenty that apple gives you.
That is absurd and false. Apple's warranty covers defects in the computer hardware. If your screen dies, Apple will replace it whether you have Wine on there or not. Do not spread that misinformation. Apple's warranty doesn't cover software, be it their own or somebody else's.

l)l2UNl(

l)l2UNl(

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Oct 2006

i think the problem is that if he dls a virus or something(not likely) then apple will do nothing about it. a program cannot destroy hardware most of the time

but bootcamp is easy and guaranteed to work so ur choice

friday9x

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Nov 2006

A/

im not talking about the screen man... Im talking if you fry something, they can blame it on that because it creates a Duel Boot on your harddrive.

Well thats what i heard from a buddy of mine that this happend to him when he took it in.

(this is quoted from http://www.apple.com/legal/warranty/hardware.html)


Quote:
This warranty does not apply: (a) to damage caused by use with non-Apple products; (b) to damage caused by accident, abuse, misuse, flood, fire, earthquake or other external causes; (c) to damage caused by operating the product outside the permitted or intended uses described by Apple; (d) to damage caused by service (including upgrades and expansions) performed by anyone who is not a representative of Apple or an Apple Authorized Service Provider; (e) to a product or part that has been modified to significantly alter functionality or capability without the written permission of Apple; (f) to consumable parts, such as batteries, unless damage has occurred due to a defect in materials or workmanship; or (g) if any Apple serial number has been removed or defaced.
your probally right, but this is what happend to him.

combatchuck

combatchuck

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Mar 2006

Mo/

Your buddy probably had a software-related crash. Apple will not cover a software problem, they'll tell you to reinstall. If you can prove that it was hardware that caused your problem, then they will cover.

"damaged caused by operating the product outside the permitted or intended uses described by Apple" does not include running programs. If that were the case, installing any software would void your warranty. That clause is basically saying "your iBook is not a SCUBA tank." You are permitted to run any program you like on your computer, at your own risk. If your hard drive dies, Apple will replace it. If your system files get corrupted, you're on your own.