[Dev Poll] Guild Wars Titles

As you may know, the Skill Hunter title in Guild Wars was designed to offer new tiers with the release of each campaign, so it doesn't ever max out. Some players have shared the opinion that they'd prefer to see campaign-specific Skill Hunter titles, similar to the campaign-specific Explorer and Protector titles. These new campaign-specific Skill Hunter title tracks would allow players to make progress with each campaign on the Kind of a Big Deal title track.

We're considering making that change, and we'd love to hear feedback from players, particularly those who are working hard to achieve the Skill Hunter or Kind of a Big Deal titles. Here's how a change might work:

• We would phase out the existing Skill Hunter title, but replace it with three campaign-specific titles: Tyrian Skill Hunter, Canthan Skill Hunter, and Elonian Skill Hunter. Some people who had captured 90 elite skills or more but have not captured those 90 elite skills within any single campaign would lose their title. But everyone who enjoys working on this title track would gain access to three max-level titles, whereas currently the Skill Hunter title track has no max-level title.
• For those who choose to pursue multiple regional titles--across all existing campaigns--we could add a snazzy "international" title, as well. For example, someone who had earned the titles Tyrian Skill Hunter, Canthan Skill Hunter, and Elonian Skill Hunter might also get the title International Skill Hunter. (As we introduce more campaigns, we'd introduce higher levels of the cross-campaign Skill Hunter title.)
• At the same time, we could add cross-campaign titles for Cartographer and Protector, such as International Cartographer and International Protector. These would be awarded to players who had completed all three of the campaign-specific titles from those title tracks. We would of course be able to expand these title offerings with higher-level titles as new campaigns are released.
• Adding three new max-level Skill Hunter titles would allow people to make additional progress towards the Kind of a Big Deal title track, and we may start seeing some players with the People Know Me title. Naturally, as the number of available max-level titles increases, we'll add more tiers on the combined-title track, beyond People Know Me.

So, the poll is above and we'd really like to hear from you. Please share your thoughts on the proposed changes.

This strongly suggests a CH4 is definite.

Voted in favour of campaign specific titles.

This cheapens "Kind of a big deal", I vote against.

I don't think it is fair to have a title that spans all three campaigns because not everyone has all three campaigns. It should be for a specific chapter so that people who only have Nightfall, don't need to buy Factions and Prophecies in order to get a title they have been trying to get. Then they finally think they get it and are really disappointed because they see that it isn't just the chapters elites.

Yup, definatly campaign specific titles.

All I want is some kind of benefit from these PvE titles.

Skill Hunter Title suggestion:
- Signet of Capture have a fixed price between 500g to 1k
- For each rank of Skill Hunter Title, the price of acquiring new skills from skill trainer is decreased by a percentage, excluding Signet of Capture.

Oh yea, like what Jamki said.

It cheapens the KoaBD title

I've been wanting a way to display multiple Cartography titles, and I think the ability to display that you have achieved the same title on multiple continents is a good thing.
The only thing I ask is that if we do split the skill hunter title, is there any way to 'unclutter' the hero menu? That's adding an extra two titles to a very long list of started tracks.

But that's just my two cents.

I have a few concerns and comment regarding this

1. overall i think it's a good idea. it allows for people to get maxed titles no matter how many games they have but also gives a little extra bonus to those who have multiple campaigns(which I think is good since it doesn't effect gameplay and they did pay for the extra games)

2. would elite skills already captured count towards the new titles. i ask this because i know people who have spent countless hrs and plat gaining the current titles would be really pissed, and rightly so, if they had to start over again and that loss would overweigh the added benefits.

3.with regard to one of the earlier posters concern about devaluating the "kind of a big deal" titles with this. I think that's really ok. the first rank does does say "kind of" a big deal therefore it can be reduced a bit. for this rank to still hold any weight with all the new titles then they will have to add a few more tiers to it and therefore kind of will be as prestegious as explorer(ie, not much) but then the higher tiers would be more like the cartographer titles which are more impressive

4. i also like the idea of adding cross chapter variations of some other titles like cartographer because it makes it worth it to get Grand Cartographer in more than one place and gives you a way to show it off rather than having to alternate from one to the other.

/voted in favor of revamping

I really like those title ideas, and towards Jamski's comment, it does devalue it a little, however there are constantly going to be easier ways to obtain KoaBD in the future. This would merely be making that possible sooner.

On the other side, even if you'd only have one campaign, you'd be able to get a maxed out skill hunter title.

/signed.


Yes, it'll cheapen the KoaBD title... but you'll actually want to go for the PKM title then, right?

PS: and what about core skills then? Having capped, say, Cleave in Tyria will also count for the Canthan and Elonian title?

I have the first rank of Skill Hunter and will get Adept before long, with my monk character Santa Claws. I would be one of the people who would be deprived or their Skill Hunter title, but nevertheless I'm all for the proposed changes to the Skill Hunter Title Track.

International Skill Hunter, here I come!

I strongly support chapter-specific, maxable skill hunter titles.

@those of you saying it will cheapen KoaBD: please read Gaile's final point:

So while obtaining "Kind of a Big Deal (1)" and "People Know Me (2)" will become significantly easier, there will be additional ranks that will not be obtainable.

However it is done, I believe skill hunter needs to be maxable.

So the Ones we already captured, we would have to recapture them for them to count?

As some of the early KOABDs maxed their drunkard title through the zoning trick (which from what I hear made those 10,000 minutes possible in about 7 hours and is still possible), I don't see how this could cheapen the title. Let's also not forget that you can buy rares to ID, pay people to clear zones for you to map, etc. If you have the money, you can get KOABD without trying. As the Skill Hunter track is concerned now, it's the only PvE title that you can't max and to some extent the Sunspear/Lightbringer titles. The change would be nice; impossible goals are never fun.

I think it would be more interesting, and more challenging, if the "International" title track would increase when you've completed everything within that campaign. The track would increase when Cartographer, Protector, and Skill Hunter have been completed from that chapter as a final way of saying "Yes, I have beaten this campaign to the fullest".

I say we should change it. Oh and I'd like to cast a vote in advance for the next tier of KoaBD after People Know Me. It should be My Apartment Smells of Rich Mahogany and should be the lengthiest title in the game :P. But seriously folks, voting is important.

"My Apartment Smells of Rich Mahogany"

gogo anchorman!

/signed wholehearttedly!

Skill hunter is definately harder than Cartographer or Protector, and as such it should be maxable.

I would also very much like to suggest campaign specific Questing Titles. There should be a reward for completing every quest in a campaign.

Remove titles completely. They mean nothing at all, and are completely grind related. I realize that Anet is bound and determined, for whatever reason, to try and remove all the gold from characters by continually creating titles that are nothing but gold sinks (putting in a Drunkard title in a game aimed at 13 year olds? good idea there).

Instead of coming out with more silly titles, maybe release a finished game instead, and not do like EA does and release a poorly tested and implemented game, actually fix the stuck character issues, or fix the numerous Z axis issues that still crop up on nearly every bridge.

There are so many other items that should be resolved first, but I guess adding ridiculous titles is much more important.

Thanks for nothing.

I have 191 elite skills, and decentralising the title would be colossally disappointing to me. (Well, maybe not colossally, but people on forums are obligated to over-dramatise.) I would prefer seeing the current Skill Hunter title renamed to International Skill Hunter, perhaps making the first level higher than the total number of elites on any one continent.

Additional titles do not concern me, but decentralising Skill Hunter would seem to me to be a step in the wrong direction. If people are so desperate to max out titles, why not allow temporary maxing out? As long as someone had the maximum available at that time, give them one point towards Kind Of A Big Deal.