[Dev Poll] Guild Wars Titles

Epinephrine

Epinephrine

Master of Beasts

Join Date: Mar 2005

Ottawa, Canada

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

Despite losing my low level skill hunter titles, it'll be a much better reward system for those doing the massive task of skill hunting.

If it were done in the manner of the exploration titles it would be nice, being displayable at 60%, with 70, 80, 90, 95 and 100% levels for each campaign.

Hand of Shiva

Hand of Shiva

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2005

Phoenix, AZ of the USA

Exalted of the Unconquered Sun

W/Mo

Well i'm for it but at the same time I have some reservations for it. If their going to implement more title tracks and longer lists in the title screen I hope they find a way to clean it up a bit. I'm already a bit annoyed at having to scroll all over hte place just to check my sunspear and lightbringer titles that i'm grinding for. As for everyone concerned with having to go back and recap all those elites I seriously doubt the game will make you go back and recap it seeing as how the game already registered it as being capped and unlocked. As for the folks who are worried about it cheapening KoaBD it'll still take people a long ass time to cap all those skills anyway so whether ANet puts a number cap on the skills or chops it into chapters is kinda irrelevant, its just a matter of days or months till they get the title their after.

So with some reservations about cleaning up that titles screen (maybe by chapter) I'm in support of the revamp.

TyrianFury

TyrianFury

Guest

Join Date: May 2006

UK

E/

Well I have 4 max titles and 3 more that are nearly max (will get koabd in the next few days) so sounds good to me. However why not keep skill hunter as it is and make it account wide. Rather than wasting gold on elite skills for all professions which you wont use, the title would take into account all the elites unlocked on you account (PvE Cap only).

This would be better, my ele has all primary profession elites from proph and factions (working on nf now) my war has most of them too. But I don't need skills from other secondary professions which I don't use.

Account wide skill hunter makes more sense and would encourage people to try out more professions in the game.

The Silver Star

The Silver Star

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

UK, Scotland

Il Guild Name Il

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by brave bern
I didn't hear any hard core PvP players complain when they had double fame weekends!
I heard alomst everbody complain were you asleep or something?

On the other hand i think that it would be a nice addition, and the title screen well.. you should be able to reorganise the title screen layout so you can eg bring the title you are currently grinding for to the top or w/e. Also capping KoABD at r2 or even at well.. KoABD itself would of been a good idea in my opinion

Cirian

Cirian

Wilds Pathfinder

Join Date: Oct 2005

European Union

The Amazon Basin

Quote:
Originally Posted by TyrianFury
Account wide skill hunter makes more sense and would encourage people to try out more professions in the game.
I agree with this, I prefer to play the different classes. I collect all the primary class skills on each character separately and unlock everything on my account that way.

I'm in favour of the skill title change - I like the idea of being able to max out the title.

What I'd like to see in addition to the "elite skills" title is a "primary skills" title for collecting every primary class skill on your character. By that, I mean all the regular skills plus elites for your primary profession, with a tier for each chapter (like the current Skill Hunter). So, if I bag all the chapter 1 ranger skills I get tier 1 - when I add all the factions ranger skills I get tier 2 - when I bag all the nightfall ranger skills too I get tier 3 - and so on.

I prefer bagging every primary class skill on my characters instead of collecting secondary class elites - many of which I can't spec the attribute for anyway! All I need is a title to go with it

Musty

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2006

Mo/

Never understood why skill Hunter wasn't account wide. However, if you did make it account wide, theres problems that need to be addressed:

- Will unlocking via PvP-chars count. If it did, it's most likely easier to gain the Faction to do it. Then again, PvP characters do deserve another Title or two tbh, Gladiator, Hero and Champion pale in comparison number wise to the PvE titles.

The stupid thing is I can unlock a skill on one character... then if I want skill hunter on a different one, I have to blow a capture signet on it.

Horseman Of War

Horseman Of War

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2006

The Cult of Doom

P/

interesting results on the poll eh?


I think it only makes sense now that the 'grand scope of things' is becoming more clear in regard to future chapters and things of that nature (come on anet give us a leet bag of extra arenas for 20 bucks with traps and mini-dungeon death matches- a 'stand alone' pvp type-)

...anyways- its kind of like Cartographer I mean what sounds better in terms of fairness to someone saying they explored 75% of guild wars in general, or actually showing your "old-school" experience with two different masters cartographers?

of course, there is that small percentage of course that already has 100% of all 3- and perhaps some of their drive to get the title is somewhat shaken up which is understandable.

xis10al

xis10al

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Apr 2006

Sativa High

N/Me

Voted: Not Favored

I spent plenty of time capping 291 Elites with my Necromancer and am very proud of that title at it's present level (Elite Skill Hunter (5)). To break it up into 3 smaller titles, although I'm opposed, if that's done, I'd like to atleast see a cross-campaign title that shows the amount of work you've done overall with a character as opposed to overall in one campaign.

Ora

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Mar 2006

Quote:
Originally Posted by Musty
Never understood why skill Hunter wasn't account wide.
Making the title account based is nonsense...it would completely water it down.
Whats 290 elites over 9 or 10 character slots ?? You'd just have to cap all the primary elites for each character...if it where account based, half of all players would have that title.

Emik

Emik

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Nov 2005

Belgium

[FaRM] Farm For The Win

N/

What Ora said

darktemplar32489

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jul 2006

[kiSu]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by makosi
This strongly suggests a CH4 is definite.

Voted in favour of campaign specific titles.
Actually I heard from gaile gray that nightfall is actually campaign 4 followed by but you didnt hear me say that.

Anti Oath

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Nov 2006

Waiting

Balance

Quote:
Originally Posted by lightblade
All I want is some kind of benefit from these PvE titles.

Skill Hunter Title suggestion:
- Signet of Capture have a fixed price between 500g to 1k
- For each rank of Skill Hunter Title, the price of acquiring new skills from skill trainer is decreased by a percentage, excluding Signet of Capture.
thats an awesome idea!

Nickhimself

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Your face

True Gods Of War [True]

W/Mo

Would it cheapen KoaBD? Yep
Does that matter? Nope
WHAT?! WHY?!!? How many people have you seen running around with "People Know Me"? That's what I thought.

It's not EASY to get 10 max titles for People Know Me, even if you go with the easiest titles, it will still take you freaking forever (or already has).

DarkRaider

DarkRaider

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2006

WTB 20/20 and 20/19 MESMER Staves

W/

No No No.

I'm speaking as a r2 skill hunter here and i disagree. Not only would i lose my (relatively rare) title, i would also have to capture some of the hardest (ring of fire) prophecies skills to regain it.

Enough of me being an egoist, heres a suggestion:

-put down the title requirements, skill hunter is the ONLY title which needs four chapters to complete! how unfair can it be?

i suggest:

-rank 1: 60 elites
-rank 2: 90 elites
-rank 3: 120 elites

etc, add 30 each tier


Quote:
Skill Hunter Title suggestion:
- Signet of Capture have a fixed price between 500g to 1k
- For each rank of Skill Hunter Title, the price of acquiring new skills from skill trainer is decreased by a percentage, excluding Signet of Capture.
Good idea, but how about putting elite skill xp gain up? we had the double xp event and it worked great for me, now im out of skill points (at about 1,6 mil xp)

What im saying, this thread is destroying the skill hunters we have at this moment! people voting in favor of campaign-specific skill hunter titles are mere jealous cartographers who are looking for a cheap title to get their KoaBD easily.....fools

Also, a great thing about skill hunting is YOU ARENT OBLIGED TO CAPTURE A SKILL FROM A CERTAIN CAMPAIGN. Now you're just restricting us further to force us to capture a certain skill we rather wouldnt capture (Ring of fire, mineral springs anyone? ANYONE!?)

Making a poll of this has already made me sick, dumbest idea ever.


Actually read this for a change gaile, ty

Epinephrine

Epinephrine

Master of Beasts

Join Date: Mar 2005

Ottawa, Canada

Servants of Fortuna [SoF]

I laugh at how selfish people are. I too would lose skill hunter titles, but it makes more sense. If you have the big one (290 skills) you'd have 3 of them.

Complaining because it doesn't show off your total mastery? Welcome to the world of the triple grandmaster cartographer - they just need an overall title to display for them as well. Separate issue really.

Elruid

Academy Page

Join Date: Jan 2006

Wow, nice idea there devs. Goes to show you're not out of ideas and improvements yet. I voted reconfing the Skill Hunter thingy.
It's still not easy. And about KOABD. Kill Only All Banana Dervishes.
They could add more ranks to it to make it special, since everyone wants to be special. Except those who already might be..

MithranArkanere

MithranArkanere

Underworld Spelunker

Join Date: Nov 2006

wikipedia.org/wiki/Vigo

Heraldos de la Llama Oscura [HLO]

E/

People should be able to get things no matter which campaing they by.

They want more? The buy more campaings.

There is not a 'world cartographer' there are three.
There is not a 'world protector' there are three.

Since there are campaing specific sklls, there should be campaing specific titles.

Kook~NBK~

Grotto Attendant

Join Date: Mar 2005

A little chalet outside Drok's

Natural Born Killaz

Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkRaider
-put down the title requirements, skill hunter is the ONLY title which needs four chapters to complete! how unfair can it be?
You're missing the problem with the skill hunter title track. Every time a new chapter comes out, they raise the requirement for maxing it out beyond what can b obtained. With just factions and Prophecies, the max title was set at 225 skills captured. The problem is that there are only 180 skills available with those 2 chapters. With the release of Nightfall, they jacked up the requirement for max to 380 - but you can only get 291. Simply stated, the way it works now, no one will EVER be able to max out the title.

Quote:
What im saying, this thread is destroying the skill hunters we have at this moment! people voting in favor of campaign-specific skill hunter titles are mere jealous cartographers who are looking for a cheap title to get their KoaBD easily.....fools
Nonsense. There are lots of people who run around capping skills while they're clearing the maps - two birds with one stone. I'm one of them. I've got 225 elites capped, and GM cartographer on both Tyria and Cantha. And I wouldn't call getting max cartographer titles "easy" by any means. (It is relatively easier for some professions than others, but it's still a good accomplishment.)

Quote:
Also, a great thing about skill hunting is YOU ARENT OBLIGED TO CAPTURE A SKILL FROM A CERTAIN CAMPAIGN.
If you're going to max out the title, not only do you need to cap every skill in every campaign, you need to capture skills in campaigns that don't even exist yet!

Quote:
Now you're just restricting us further to force us to capture a certain skill we rather wouldnt capture (Ring of fire, mineral springs anyone? ANYONE!?)
And you just complained about others cheapening the title "to get their KoaBD easily." Amazing.

Tarek Amandi

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2006

Dirty South

FATE

W/

I think they should be per realm, but I also think they should not count towards kind of a big deal. I think maybe have a seperate title to wear. ex. Tyrian expert skill hunter
tyrian master skill hunter
and so on....
Cathan....
Elonian....
Then when you do get all the skills in all realms link them to a max title ex .
Skill master 1-2-3
I think they should do the same with the map titles.

Srry if this was posted already just giving my thoughts!

Livingston

Livingston

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jul 2006

The Edge of the World

[L] [GET]

Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkRaider
What im saying, this thread is destroying the skill hunters we have at this moment! people voting in favor of campaign-specific skill hunter titles are mere jealous cartographers who are looking for a cheap title to get their KoaBD easily.....fools
*Shakes head*

Sorry mate, you call us fools, but fail to see the foolishness of your own words.

If this is implemented, it will probably be with the next release anyway, thus anyone who then had all the cartography titles would have the KoaBD title anyway.

More than likely if this were to take effect it would make it harder to get that title for cartographers as they would more than likely combine all of the cartography titles into one tiered title and give the international title to those that max it out, thus changing the 3-4 titles we'd have towards the KoaBD title to one.

And as a cartographer, I couldn't give two flicks about the KoaBD title; it looks stupid and can easily be bought.

If they bring in a master title for cartography then cartographers will be wearing I don't know... maybe the cartography title?!?

Livingston

kc2000ss

kc2000ss

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Jan 2006

3rd rock from sun out of eight?

W/N

i would like to see drunken title subdivded by a couple of more step like this
1000
2500
5000
10000 drunk minutes is hella hard to get

and voted for max skill on each chapter

Arachnis

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Sep 2006

The Enigma Decree

N/Me

Capping all the skills in a campaign is a feat. Paying for all three and capping all skills is another feat. We deserve some respect and titles for that. It is Kind of A Big Deal. I have put so much time and effort into getting skills, money etc. I should get some kind of closure for my many nights of OCD capping.

Venus was her name

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Feb 2006

Cornwall, UK

W/N

i have to work to obtain my cartographer and protector titles for each separate campaign. why should skills be different?

i agree with proposed changes.

Etrik

Etrik

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2006

Romania

None atm

Mo/

So.. is this thread dead? Was the general consensus that they'll be split? Did Gaile say they will split it, based on the votes? :S

Ninna

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Apr 2005

Northeast USA

Guilded Rose

Me/

something is being worked on, relating to Titles - we do not have the details

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...php?t=10083642
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gaile Gray
# Max Ranks for Sunspear/Lightbringer -- As it turns out, the designers have developed another cool idea that may tied to the max titles. Trust me, this idea is cool (and something that has been requested).

So, the max titles will not be in Friday's update, to allow time to consider how this new concept will work out. One or both of the max titles may simply be enabled in a standard update in the near future, or the max may be offered a bit later, if it is tied to this new concept.

As you know, we're always looking at ways to add to the game, and let's just say that this week's update will not be the last one that we see -- not by a longshot!

Alleji

Alleji

Forge Runner

Join Date: Jan 2006

Since it's pretty clear how the poll had turned out, how exactly is this going to work?

I have 281 elites on my necro. If the title is split into 3, what's gonna happen to her? I capped Esurge is prophecies, not in Cantha or Elona. Does that mean I won't have Canthan and Elonian titles? How am I supposed to get them if I already have Esurge and can't cap it again?

aohige

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Jul 2006

GoW

Mo/

Energy Surge is not a Prophecies skill. Nor is it a Factiosn or Nightfall.
It is a Core skill. This should answer your question.

fatmouse

Academy Page

Join Date: Jul 2006

Don't believe everything you read on gwiki aohige. Core is a made-up term for skills that happen to appear in all games. You think e-surge was 'core' before factions came out? Nope, everything was just a prophecies skill. E-surge is a prophecies, factions and nightfall skill. I would expect capping it will increase your progression on all three titles.

SirShadowrunner

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Sep 2005

at the beach

Gamerzunlimited (GU)

R/

It would make more sense to have it chapter specific, but some ppl like me
will loose the title probably, no big deal, sense I think titles are way
overrated anyway. When they first came out I thought they were cool,
but after getting a few I lost interest, don't mean anything to me, and
I thought the survivor title was counter-productive to the game, had
several ppl quit in the middle of a mission because they thought they were
going to die and loose there precious title, correct me if I am wrong.

-thx
Sirshadowrunner.....

legendel

legendel

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: May 2005

UK

League of Friends (LOF)

R/

I'd like to see it split into three, but with an overall international, and if it inteferes with KOABD well, just make the international one not count. OR make another teir for KOABD

ixzion

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2006

Order of the temple of solomon

E/N

Voted "prefer to keep the skill-hunter title at it is" but changed my mind after I read what Gaile wrote. Sounds really good!

Geckoo

Geckoo

Academy Page

Join Date: May 2006

Spain

The Keeper Of The Seven Keys [KSK]

Me/

campaign-specific title es the best change you could make for that title... actually has not known end and in that way makes it accesible to anyone even if he hasn't some of the 3 campaigns.

And it's true, it will make easier and 'cheaper' the koabd title, anyway... this title also has ranks... and i find absolutely normal that with the pass of time the title becomes easier to obtain as it also becomes hard to obtain the higher rank.

paulscott

paulscott

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jan 2006

I voted to separate them

2 of the same title wandering (title)
3 exploring
4 versed
5 well versed
6 seasoned

TheDriftingSoul

TheDriftingSoul

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Dec 2005

Chicago

Adventurer's Association

Mo/

I am Definitely in favor of splitting up the Skill title. The first thing I did with my monk in both factions and NF is go out and "Map n Cap" everything. Everytime as that Skill cap completion bars goes up I think to myself "I hope it doesnt restart again."

I am also in favor of the multicampaigne titles for the protector/cart/cap titles. I think it would be awesome to have one title(or 2-3) that basically says "I kicked the crap outa that chapter with this guy."

Robin_Anadri

Robin_Anadri

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jun 2005

Atlanta, GA

Girl Power [GP]

Me/Mo

I say, separate them. Let core skills count for all chapters, so if you get max in one chapter, you're party way there for the others, having the core ones capped. That would make sense for people that only have one chapter, but would reward those who have more than one and have already been capping...

thorgrimfelblade

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: May 2005

so cal

COE

N/Mo

i tell you it should be hard to get KOABD i worked my butt of to get it and it would really cheese me off to make it to easy to get its already becoming to easy dont make it worse and fyi capping 291 elites is not hard at all

although i would like to see a title for getting the regular skills i've spent 682 skill points and it would be nice to have a title to show for it

cry of sorrow

cry of sorrow

Pre-Searing Cadet

Join Date: Nov 2006

Without A Name [BRE]

R/

@Gale
////I vote for old skill huter title.
I worked my ass of to get all 291 elite skills and if new separated skill titles means that i need to cap them all again and again earn spended money and skill points (not to mention months of hard work) i say "ffs don't do that,respect our hard work".If all elite skill hunters will be able to ware only one of three skill hunter title,until the time they cap skills from 4 campain (some players like to cap slow),new campain will arive....and so and so.....It eould be good if Anet add one more title progres barr that looks something like this:if u caped all 2 campain elite skills u get "Adept Skill Hunter",all 3 campains "Elite SKill Hunter",all 4 campains "Master of Elites"....bla bla bla.

btw if u decide to screw this up,Core skills should be in all three campain based skill hunter titles!!

I have Kind Of Big Deal title too because its too easy to get it now.Do it have to be easyer?

Please let us have one nice title that is not campain based or Account based



p.s.sorry about my weak english

CyberNigma

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Jan 2006

San Antonio, TX

W/R

have the campaign-specific titles (all prophecies elites, etc) separated and toppable. have the on-going (never-ending) for all elites account-wide. this would reward people with a character in each class that unlocked all the elites (or a separate one for UAS) as well as pvp'ers that unlocked them (not bought the pvp edition to do so).

Cymmina

Cymmina

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Apr 2005

Me/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by cry of sorrow
@Gale
////I vote for old skill huter title.
I worked my ass of to get all 291 elite skills and if new separated skill titles means that i need to cap them all again and again earn spended money and skill points (not to mention months of hard work)
I don't know why people are getting so huffy about this. We never had a Skill Hunter title before Factions, but when Factions came out it was one of the few retroactive titles (along with Protector & Cartographer), meaning you made progress on that title track based on how many elites that character already knew. No one is going to have to "cap all over again" if they change the title.

Big YES to International titles, it's so hard picking which of my 3 Cartography titles to display!

Also, Wisdom (ID) and Treasure Hunter titles really need to be account based. I feel like I wasted a lot of money opening chests on various characters prior to these titles actually having a use. Now I have to mule off golds & keys I get to my ID/TH character to get my whopping (?)2% bonus for salvages.

Richo

Richo

Lion's Arch Merchant

Join Date: Feb 2006

(Europe server)

[DVDF]

Me/Mo

make it campain restricted so that all campains can have each of their max skillhunter titles, would be more fair for pple not being able to afford all campains...