Smiter build request
Insert Cool Name Here
I have found almost no smiter builds posted here or on wiki. I am so sick of healing and prot builds and want to try my hand at smiting some demons and undead in NF. Could someone give a build they use? Please don't post SoJ builds. I plan on running smite with a full party of henchies and heros.
mrsmiles
try to come up with your own build
moko
you can run Soj with hench and heroes; just make sure that you have one melee hero and rest casters, let him/her run in and soj, then let the other casters go in after - flags ftw.
pingu666
id suggest 20/20 cast/recharge wand and offhand from factions 15k armour places, but beyond that, i dunno.
maybe mo/me and use arcane echo and maybe echo, or /e for the glyphs
be cool if someone could post a build which could compair in damage to say a ele..
maybe mo/me and use arcane echo and maybe echo, or /e for the glyphs
be cool if someone could post a build which could compair in damage to say a ele..
Frostlight
My very simple Mo/E build which I've been using with henches and heroes:
Signet of Judgement
Bane Signet
Signet of Rage
Banish
Spear of Light
Smite
Ash Blast
Rebirth
The damage is decent and I don't need any energy management, plus the signets cut through the spellbreaking monsters. Ash blast is cast after the signet knockdowns to blind. Or you can substitute it for any other skill you like.
For heavy defense towards the end of Nightfall, I change to:
Signet of Judgement
Bane Signet
Banish
Spear of Light
Armor of Earth
Ward Against Melee
Ward Against Elements
Rebirth
I also bring along Zhed to cast Ward Against Harm alongside me for those areas with extreme fire damage.
Signet of Judgement
Bane Signet
Signet of Rage
Banish
Spear of Light
Smite
Ash Blast
Rebirth
The damage is decent and I don't need any energy management, plus the signets cut through the spellbreaking monsters. Ash blast is cast after the signet knockdowns to blind. Or you can substitute it for any other skill you like.
For heavy defense towards the end of Nightfall, I change to:
Signet of Judgement
Bane Signet
Banish
Spear of Light
Armor of Earth
Ward Against Melee
Ward Against Elements
Rebirth
I also bring along Zhed to cast Ward Against Harm alongside me for those areas with extreme fire damage.
Emik
Ray of Judgment if you got acces to Factions skills.
One of the higher damage dealing smiting Prayers that is
Combine with Divine Spirit for lower energy cost and you can do quite some damage
One of the higher damage dealing smiting Prayers that is
Combine with Divine Spirit for lower energy cost and you can do quite some damage
Effigy
Ray of Judgement seems pretty weak to me. Sure it does nice damage. But 15e cost? 2 second cast time? 20 second recharge? All non-Smiting skills disabled for 10 seconds?
110 damage (or whatever) every 22 seconds is nothing.
Compare:
[skill]Ray of Judgment[/skill]
[skill]Searing Flames[/skill]
Smiting could use a buff if you ask me. The spells that are actually worth using suffer for high costs, long recharges, and often long cast times as well. In most cases there are just better options.
110 damage (or whatever) every 22 seconds is nothing.
Compare:
[skill]Ray of Judgment[/skill]
[skill]Searing Flames[/skill]
Smiting could use a buff if you ask me. The spells that are actually worth using suffer for high costs, long recharges, and often long cast times as well. In most cases there are just better options.
Dark Helmet
What about Word of Censure? Seems like a good, cheap way to kill stuff.
Easy cap, too.
Easy cap, too.
Insert Cool Name Here
Please don't turn this into a debate about smite vs other types of damage. As you guys know, NF is super easy PvE with heros. What I am looking for is a SMITE build that I can run with a full compliment of henchies and heroes. I guess if smite is totally useless I could run necro or ele build on my monk, but want to do smite because I never have except for 55/soj builds. I will experiment with RoJ tonight. The build does not have to be uber damage, I just want my monk to hold its own. Thanks for replies!
Rera
Smite is worthless. About the most effective PvE build you can get is maintaining Strength of Honor and Judge's Insight on a few warriors, and that certainly isn't very exciting.
If you really wanted to, you can turn everyone into walking firestorms (complete with aoe scatter) using the standard zfire build. This is a bad idea unless you somehow *like* chasing enemies all over the map.
If you really wanted to, you can turn everyone into walking firestorms (complete with aoe scatter) using the standard zfire build. This is a bad idea unless you somehow *like* chasing enemies all over the map.
pjfresh
I have to agree with Rera, even though playing through NF as a monk, I currently run a smite build, lol. But, yea, smiting is pretty much useless, at least compared to elementalists. It's a real shame smiting is limited to solo/dual/farming/gimmick builds for the most part. I do think, however, that many people overlook the usefulness of a true smiter when facing the undead.
Anyway, my build is pretty simple (I don't have Factions mind you). Like the guy a few posts up, I run a Mo/E, only I use Glyph of Lesser Energy, Balt's Aura on Koss (works very well w/ the new AI update believe it or not) whom I equip with Rush to catch any fleers, and Smite Hex is almost always on my skill bar. Along with Signet of Judgement [elite], these are the primary spells I use to deal dmg. The rest is a hybrid of protection, healing, or earth depending on what the situation calls for.
But, in all honesty, I probably would never run this build in a real player group, but it's fun to play in PvE.
Anyway, my build is pretty simple (I don't have Factions mind you). Like the guy a few posts up, I run a Mo/E, only I use Glyph of Lesser Energy, Balt's Aura on Koss (works very well w/ the new AI update believe it or not) whom I equip with Rush to catch any fleers, and Smite Hex is almost always on my skill bar. Along with Signet of Judgement [elite], these are the primary spells I use to deal dmg. The rest is a hybrid of protection, healing, or earth depending on what the situation calls for.
But, in all honesty, I probably would never run this build in a real player group, but it's fun to play in PvE.
noocoo
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Originally Posted by Dark Helmet
What about Word of Censure? Seems like a good, cheap way to kill stuff.
Easy cap, too. Its not cheap.........
10e.....
Easy cap, too. Its not cheap.........
10e.....
Oren The Destroyer
smite is pretty much useless in pve, but i do have a build...
Mo/any
11+4 smite
8+1 heal and prot
9+1 divine
Reversal
Guardian
Air Of Enchantment [Factions elite]
Gift of health
vigorous spirit
smite hex
zealots fire
balth aura///generic, pve worthy res
Mo/any
11+4 smite
8+1 heal and prot
9+1 divine
Reversal
Guardian
Air Of Enchantment [Factions elite]
Gift of health
vigorous spirit
smite hex
zealots fire
balth aura///generic, pve worthy res
Batou of Nine
Smite is useless in PvE.... ONLY if you are utterly uncreative...
Mo/Me
Max Smite.
Rest in Inspiration.
Signet of Judgement
Bane Signet
Signet of Rage
Mantra of Inscriptions
Power Drain/Leech Signet
Smite Hex/Ether Feast
Smite/Spear of Light/Reversal of Damage
Symbol of Wrath/Kirin's Wrath/Balthazar's Aura/Rez
Can be great fun. 2 KD's with descent AoE. Admittedly sigs are slow casting 2-3 second... but none the less works pretty well. The alternate choices can help for different alternate situations. People dismiss things too easily. Thats why i love this game so much...so many possible skill combos just blow my mind!
Hope this gives yall some ideas!
Cheers!
Mo/Me
Max Smite.
Rest in Inspiration.
Signet of Judgement
Bane Signet
Signet of Rage
Mantra of Inscriptions
Power Drain/Leech Signet
Smite Hex/Ether Feast
Smite/Spear of Light/Reversal of Damage
Symbol of Wrath/Kirin's Wrath/Balthazar's Aura/Rez
Can be great fun. 2 KD's with descent AoE. Admittedly sigs are slow casting 2-3 second... but none the less works pretty well. The alternate choices can help for different alternate situations. People dismiss things too easily. Thats why i love this game so much...so many possible skill combos just blow my mind!
Hope this gives yall some ideas!
Cheers!
Aeon221
I like Wo Censure, but it is hefty. I've got _a_ smite build, but I don't promise it to be teh leetest. It works though.
Word of Censure
Smite
Spear of Light
Bane Sig
iHex
Energy Tap
Balth's Aura
Res
In PvE, all the monsters attack (even casters wand), so you won't have trouble getting the conditional.
I don't trust signets, especially late game in NF, where there are monsters with Ignorance.
Word of Censure is pricey, and etap does nothing to fix that. However, I haven't really devoted the time to finding a better unconditional solution.
Word of Censure
Smite
Spear of Light
Bane Sig
iHex
Energy Tap
Balth's Aura
Res
In PvE, all the monsters attack (even casters wand), so you won't have trouble getting the conditional.
I don't trust signets, especially late game in NF, where there are monsters with Ignorance.
Word of Censure is pricey, and etap does nothing to fix that. However, I haven't really devoted the time to finding a better unconditional solution.
Flashy
Word of Censure couples good with Glyph of Lesser Energy
Cebe
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Originally Posted by mrsmiles
try to come up with your own build
As I have found in the past Smiting can be a difficult line to work with. My brother is durrently trying to mix smiting with protection for general PvE use with some success...but that's hardly a constructive post.
Back on topic. Has anyone tried [wiki]Defender's Zeal[/wiki]? It looks interesting and I wondered if it would be a worthwhile form of energy management for a smiting monk?
Back on topic. Has anyone tried [wiki]Defender's Zeal[/wiki]? It looks interesting and I wondered if it would be a worthwhile form of energy management for a smiting monk?
Effigy
Defender's Zeal isn't bad if the enemies don't have much hex removal. I imagine it would work fine in most of PvE, although I haven't tried it.
Stormlord Alex
Celestial, I use a mixed Smite/Prot build in general PvE. It isn't ub3r-l33t-h4X-pwnage or whatever, but it's got me to the Bone Palace without problems. 
Smiting Prayers - 12 + 1 + 3 = 16
Protection Prayers - 10 + 1 = 11
Divine Favour - 8 + 1 = 9
[skill]Signet of Judgment[/skill]
[skill]Bane Signet[/skill]
[skill]Spear of Light[/skill]
[skill]Zealot's Fire[/skill]
[skill]Reversal of Damage[/skill]
[skill]Reversal of Fortune[/skill]
[skill]Aegis[/skill]
[skill]Rebirth[/skill]
Smiting Prayers - 12 + 1 + 3 = 16
Protection Prayers - 10 + 1 = 11
Divine Favour - 8 + 1 = 9
[skill]Signet of Judgment[/skill]
[skill]Bane Signet[/skill]
[skill]Spear of Light[/skill]
[skill]Zealot's Fire[/skill]
[skill]Reversal of Damage[/skill]
[skill]Reversal of Fortune[/skill]
[skill]Aegis[/skill]
[skill]Rebirth[/skill]
JYX
Quote:
Originally Posted by Effigy
Defender's Zeal isn't bad if the enemies don't have much hex removal. I imagine it would work fine in most of PvE, although I haven't tried it.
There's just not much point. Things die way too fast for it to even matter.
Cebe
Ok so I just tried Defender's Zeal. I actually think it's pretty awesome. It doesn't work too well with hench because they see you cast something on a foe and think "I must kill him"....so like JYX says, they die too fast. If you're with humans (who don't shout "ZOMG a SMITER NOOB") then you can easily cast it on the foes that aren't targetted first and it usually provides a nice income of energy just on 2 or 3 foes. I need to play around with it a bit more but from my experience so far I'm fairly impressed.
roger pedrosa
dude if u want to have fun with smitting check this page out. i love smitting been smiting since i started with prophecies i do 80% of the game with smiting then when it comes doen to team effort i have to be a healer.....check this out............................................... ......
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Build:M...ntment_Smiter;)
http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Build:M...ntment_Smiter;)
dgb
Smite is much like fire. Except for a few good builds (SF, AoE Smite) it suffers from big direct damages on abysmal recharges which burn through stupid ammounts of energy. Sure you can run it but what's the point...
Legendary Shiz
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Originally Posted by noocoo
Its not cheap.........
10e..... Compaired to what other big time smite damage dealers? It's less than Ray, less than SoJ, less than balth aura.
10e..... Compaired to what other big time smite damage dealers? It's less than Ray, less than SoJ, less than balth aura.
ScorpiusX
I completed NF with hench/hero using this setup:
Mo/Me
Bane Signet
Banish
Spear of Light
Lightbringers Gaze --may aswell be a smiting skill
Word of Censure
Power Drain
Leech Signet
Whichever rez you feel comfortable with i used Rebirth
Smite 12+1+3
Inspiration 12
Used a smiting rod with 20% recharge and +15-1 nrg and a focus with 20% recharge and 12+5 nrg. Also had a swap out set with 20% recharge and +5^50 nrg.
May not be everyones cup of tea but it worked well enough for me.
Now time for a Gripe
Smiting seriously needs a buff, no one takes me seriously when I say I'm a smiting monk. Yet whenever I go into a mission area I have to fight off loads of requests to join, cos as soon as they find I smite its OMFG!!! You Total NOOOOOB!!..
FFS I've been playing this character for 20 months and I am sick of being told how to heal or how to protect by players who only know monking from reading forums (thats why I now Smite). And my usual reply to them is "if thats how you want a monk to play THEN GO PLAY A SODDING MONK!!!".
I have no problems with discussing a monks role with folk who've played monks, but those who haven't have no idea how much it pisses us off to be told how to play, (well it pisses me of something chonic anyway).
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Mo/Me
Bane Signet
Banish
Spear of Light
Lightbringers Gaze --may aswell be a smiting skill
Word of Censure
Power Drain
Leech Signet
Whichever rez you feel comfortable with i used Rebirth
Smite 12+1+3
Inspiration 12
Used a smiting rod with 20% recharge and +15-1 nrg and a focus with 20% recharge and 12+5 nrg. Also had a swap out set with 20% recharge and +5^50 nrg.
May not be everyones cup of tea but it worked well enough for me.
Now time for a Gripe
Smiting seriously needs a buff, no one takes me seriously when I say I'm a smiting monk. Yet whenever I go into a mission area I have to fight off loads of requests to join, cos as soon as they find I smite its OMFG!!! You Total NOOOOOB!!..
FFS I've been playing this character for 20 months and I am sick of being told how to heal or how to protect by players who only know monking from reading forums (thats why I now Smite). And my usual reply to them is "if thats how you want a monk to play THEN GO PLAY A SODDING MONK!!!".
I have no problems with discussing a monks role with folk who've played monks, but those who haven't have no idea how much it pisses us off to be told how to play, (well it pisses me of something chonic anyway).
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Cebe
Quote:
Originally Posted by ScorpiusX
Quote: Originally Posted by ScorpiusX Smiting seriously needs a buff, no one takes me seriously when I say I'm a smiting monk. Yet whenever I go into a mission area I have to fight off loads of requests to join, cos as soon as they find I smite its OMFG!!! You Total NOOOOOB!!.. /signed
Quote:
FFS I've been playing this character for 20 months and I am sick of being told how to heal or how to protect by players who only know monking from reading forums (thats why I now Smite). And my usual reply to them is "if thats how you want a monk to play THEN GO PLAY A SODDING MONK!!!".
QFT.
I got told by someone the other day "Make sure you watch Olias. He's an MM". Yes...right... ? eh? You thought I'd just let him die... Ugh, the patronising ones are the worse...the ones who have never played monk before and for some reason think they need to give you advice...One mission I do enjoy monking (healing) in, however, is Abaddon's Gate. That one's fun!
I got told by someone the other day "Make sure you watch Olias. He's an MM". Yes...right... ? eh? You thought I'd just let him die... Ugh, the patronising ones are the worse...the ones who have never played monk before and for some reason think they need to give you advice...One mission I do enjoy monking (healing) in, however, is Abaddon's Gate. That one's fun!
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Don't we all... but... Guild... Wars.... is....calling......To continue the smiting monk discussion I played smiting for fun in Divinity Coast the other day. I was only going in with Heroes and a Friend...I had immense fun maintaining Retribution on all 6 party members throughout the entire mission. Build...for anyone remotely interested.. Retribution, Mantra of Inscriptions, Signet of Judgement, Bane Signet, Signet of Devotion, Blessed Signet, Reversal of Damage, Res. Damage output was piss-small and it was kinda stupid but was so much fun to play!! |