Ele Heros don't like Attunements?

Was just wondering if anyone else was having this problem, for some reason my ele heros, both Zhed and Sousuke won't use Attunements 90% of the time, unless I make them do it. Even if they actually use one, they will never use both, Elemental + Specific type attunement. (If they have both of corse) Very annoying to say the least, as they constantly burn all of their mana...instead of simply using an attunement. =\

Anyone else seen this happening, or do they just hate me?

Maybe try putting the attunements on the far left of the skillbar?

It's not just you, but my friends keep saying you can "teach" heroes, by manually using them right before / at the start of battle, and half the time, after doing that for a little, they tend to do it more for me.

But the other half they run around spamming 15 E skills with no attunements on.

I have Awaken the Blood on Olias (works the same way as attunements). I put Awaken the Blood in his #1 slot (furthest left) and he uses it properly.

I have them in slot #1 and #2, and they still very rarly use them.

I dunno about the "teach" thing...worth a shot I suppose. =\

I have my Fire Attunement on the last spot of Zhed's bar (meaning all the way right, on number 8). He uses it every time. As soon as I press space to attack something, he's hitting Attune.

So it might be an isolated incident for you. No idea. Also, it seems they prioritize skill use in some (only to them understandable) way. So you might have to try moving it around on the skill bar.

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They use one attunement correctly for me but refuse to use dual attunments correctly for things such as air skills spam.(I wish we had a FF like gambit system to force certain actions and skill orders on heroes)
I changed them to searing flames spikers since they are too stupid to manage mana consumption with every other build.

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Hehe, even the AI quietly protests against the elite crap that hundred blades is

As for attunements, my zhed uses both it and glyph of lesser energy fine, in slots 2 & 3. Well, glyph about half-fine

glyph in spot 6, attune in spot 7 - using fine.

Maybe he just doesn't like a dual attune air build? =\

I'll probably change him to fire, see if he uses it right then.

Heroes will not use their attunement unless in combat. ie they won't just maintain it between fights even if you stop moving to give them time.

But once combat starts, I know they will cast Fire Attunement. Not sure about dual-attunes since I've not tried that.

I have taken to clicking on the hero's Fire Attunement before each fight while I am prepping my own skills.

I have ele attune & fire attune in 6 & 7 slots with aura of restoration in slot 1. I spent the first few battles casting their skills for them and they work fine afterwards. I guess you could teach them.

I've run into problems with this recently, and I feel it didn't used to be a problem. I have my hero use Fire Attunement (slot 8) and Aura of Restoration (slot 7). I think the problems started after I added Aura of Restoration, but I'm not sure.

I think the heroes consider attunements as "energy regen" instead of "e-management" so unless they have low energy it's a bit unlikely they use it right away.

got attnement on slot 7 and works fine.. but...
glyph of renewal > attunement = gg.. and it seems to be zhed's favorite combo -_-;

I've got elemental attunement and fire attunement on far right side of the skill bar on Sousuke and he keeps them on 24/7.

I keep fire attu in slot 1, and zhed seems to keep it up most of the time in battle. Like Dazzler, I mostly click it on my hero bar before I enter battle, as otherwise he will sometimes start firing off rodgerts without an attu up.

Hopefully the AI will get updated as people find issues. I mean Mantra of Recall is used as much as possible without being in battle which is actually a good thing. This is sort of what I would like to see with the attunements. 100% uptime. At the moment if you give Blood is Power to a necro it wont use it at all. Give him BR and he uses that all the time.

Overall though I love the heros. Thankfully anet listened to us when we said we want to be able to control henchmen's skills. Now can we please get 8 heros rather than 4? Whats up with that?

My Zhed does quite well when set up as E/Me "interruptive Searing Flames nuker" (from left to right):

Power Drain
Leech Signet
Fire Attunement
Searing Flames
Glowing Gaze
Liquid Flame
Immolate
Rez Sig

Fire on max, Energy Storage and Inspiration somewhat balanced. Sometimes you have to give him a lil' nudge with the Fire Attunement but all in all his mana is "not constantly empty", hihi (Glowing Gaze FTW!). Please note that I played a Searing Flames nuker myself the at same time, so the "two persons inflicting buring" might have helped him with his Glowing Gaze.

I would also add in could people say what setting they have them on? Aggressive, defensive, or passive?

I found that also has a difference in what they cast. My Zhed has never had an issue with dual attunes. In fact, I was pleasantly surprised how well he did it and it didn't matter what slot I had the attunes in. He pretty much cast them correctly. At that time I ran some high and low energy spells (flare and rodgort's invocation for two). He pretty much never ran out of energy, if he did we already had some other problems that were much more severe.

I've never really played him that much as aggressive, he would run really long distances to engage the enemy that it was irritating -defensive seemed the correct setting. I now run him as a searing flame/glowing gaze and he does a pretty good job at it. In the first slot I have glyph of lesser energy, second glowing gaze, third searing flames, and the next to last as fire attunement (I can not see a difference wherever I place fire attunement, the other three seem too matter - especially the glowing gaze and searing flames). He does pretty much the same thing as my Ele with a similar build so I'm happy. I throw in Glyph of elemental power and he handles it well, though it also seems he does the same with this wherever I place it.

The big wish I have is that he would see some skills as applying their conditions instead of damage. For instance I have him using steam with a decent water magic for blindness with searing flames. He spams steam too much, though at 5 energy it's not a big deal. Same thing with some of the water snares - he uses them as damage, not snares before nuking them. Without elemental attunement running two skill lines can eat up too much energy if he uses them both for damage. Since it is an elite I can not converge with searing flame for some nice conditions, though since my player controlled ele doesn't spam them she can keep her energy up..

Eh, the AI will never be perfect. Anet could spend the next 20 years perfecting it and come out with something that we will all find fault with. As is, I'm really liking this. It's amusing to take the hero builds (including new nightfall skills) through prophecies. The game (PvE) is soooo much easier

I can't get Zhed to use attunements at all. I gave him Searing Flames, Glowing Gaze and Fire Attunement (and res sig). So he has 3 skills. He never uses Fire Attunement, not even once. He just refuses to unless I tell him to.

During a short battle his energy goes to 0 because he is spamming 15 energy skill without attunement. He doesn't maintain the attunement between battles like henchmen do, and he doesn't use it during the battle either.

My ele hero uses Fire and Elemental Attunements. Sometimes I have to tell him to use them, but he still uses them.

The use of attunements and glyphs has never been an issue with my Eles(Olias is the perfect MM.I don't even need to watch him like I do the others).

However,Sousuke is addicted to MSing low lvl monsters,high lvl monsters, and anything that moves,so that skill is on restriction.Besides that,he does a good job.

I've got Elemental and Fire on Zhed and I've never had a problem with him not using them, mine however are in slots 7 and 8

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Post your templates and indicate if they are working properly for you.. We can do a little analysis and see if it's template based!

Sousuke uses Attunements (and Aura, which I tend to run) more often than not, but I still need to keep an eye on him.

He's definitely using the Inspiration energy gainers.

Even so, he seems to run dry of energy more than I do without the Inspiration stuff (better an AI interrupting than me ...).