Chapter 4 isn't very far along... or something fishy is going on.

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

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Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

So, I was digging around looking for a possible lead to the name of the next chapter of Guild Wars, and I came up with NOTHING. I knew about Nightfall 3 weeks after Factions released, the name at least. It is strange how ANet/NC Soft have not decided on a name yet. I find that disturbing, since, they said a new chapter every 6 months. Maybe that 6 month promise isn't in order this time around? If anyone else can dig up anything on this, post it here. All I have so far is this:

Serial Number Reg. Number Word Mark Check Status Live/Dead
1 78863744 GUILD WARS NIGHTFALL TARR LIVE
2 78863698 GUILD WARS NIGHTFALL TARR LIVE
3 78769026 GUILD WARS FACTIONS TARR LIVE
4 78769025 GUILD WARS FACTIONS TARR LIVE
5 78228745 2887786 GUILD WARS TARR LIVE
6 78228735 2890366 GUILD WARS TARR LIVE
7 78228725 2887785 GUILD WARS TARR LIVE


That is all I can find on Guild Wars, unless they are hiding it somehow.... I will keep searching. I am sure they should have the name picked out if the development period is only 6 months. They only have 5 left...

PS: I have tried Library of Congress and the Copyrights, I couldn't find anything on NC Soft, Arenanet, or Guild Wars... so that is a dead end.

Only patent system is finding matches. Nightfall's name was DIRECTLY issued from Korea, not from Jeff Strain, meaning NC Soft has an iron grip on Arena Net, at least by the looks of it.

generik

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Maybe they have decided not to register the trademark so early after the previous lessons...

Maybe Gaile and the lot of them are busy shredding financial records and grinding hard drives to dust...

Who knows?

Arkantos

Arkantos

The Greatest

Join Date: Feb 2006

W/

Just because NF was named 3 weeks after Factions was released doesn't mean it'll be the same for Ch4.

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by generik
Maybe they have decided not to register the trademark so early after the previous lessons...

Maybe Gaile and the lot of them are busy shredding financial records and grinding hard drives to dust...

Who knows?
LOL. That is one theory. But, if they don't register the trademark early, they could have an internal leak, and some other company could copyright the name.... It happened with Half Life 2. That is why its Half Life (Squared) not 2. That, and a lot of their info leaked.

MadOnion

MadOnion

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Join Date: May 2005

Hmm, your evidence strongly suggests indeed that Arenanet is doing a poor job on CH4 and since nothing is registered, they probably haven't even started working on it! The name, of course, is the most essential part to a game, and clearly nothing can be accomplsihed without it.

generik

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief
LOL. That is one theory. But, if they don't register the trademark early, they could have an internal leak, and some other company could copyright the name.... It happened with Half Life 2. That is why its Half Life (Squared) not 2. That, and a lot of their info leaked.
Well, why can't they just you know, develop the game, and then decide on the trademark at the end?

Do you even see the word "Nightfall" or "Factions" in the game uttered by any NPC? I only see it in the toon creation screen, the login screen, and the skill trainers IRRC.

Phaern Majes

Phaern Majes

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Sep 2005

Anywhere but up

The Panserbjorne [ROAR]

R/Mo

Oh I love seeing sarcasm!

Yeah I was pretty much going to put something similar to Madonion, but he did such a good job of it.... guess I'll just troll on this one.

Quote:
Originally Posted by generik
Well, why can't they just you know, develop the game, and then decide on the trademark at the end?

Do you even see the word "Nightfall" or "Factions" in the game uttered by any NPC? I only see it in the toon creation screen, the login screen, and the skill trainers IRRC.
Actually I see alot of NPC's talking about Nightfall, Varesh does numerous times....

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

The theme of the game is based around the name. When designing a game, programmers use the name as a unifying center.

Example: Factions: two different factions in a bloody war against each other struggling for survival.

Nightfall: Nightfall coming, Abbadon, Varesh trying to bring Nightfall to the lands.

@ Generik: Hmm, if I remember correctly, in teh cutscenes, the word "Nightfall" was used A BAZILLION times. Could have just been me though.

generik

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Phaern Majes
Actually I see alot of NPC's talking about Nightfall, Varesh does numerous times....
But you see, Nightfall as mentioned in the game points to an event that happens in the story line.

Anet can very well name it Guild Wars: The dark continent for all we know. It does not impact the game in any nor story in any way.

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by generik
But you see, Nightfall as mentioned in the game points to an event that happens in the story line.

Anet can very well name it Guild Wars: The dark continent for all we know. It does not impact the game in any nor story in any way.
But The Dark Continent would still be a name focused on the story line. They generally create the storyline around the name. So it worries me to not see a name yet, because that means they may not even have a concept of the story line. I just hope it isn't as hurried as factions was, and the story line isnt utter crap (it is the factions team that is going this next version).

fenix

fenix

Major-General Awesome

Join Date: Aug 2005

Aussie Trolling Crew HQ - Event Organiser and IRC Tiger

Ex Talionis [Law], Trinity of the Ascended [ToA] ????????????????&#

W/

I mean crap, they could call it Guild Wars: 4. They don't need a name until just before release if they don't want. It might be a case that they are going to wait for a couple months before they release that it will be called Guild Wars: The Hunt for Something Evil

Criminally Sane

Criminally Sane

Frost Gate Guardian

Join Date: Aug 2005

With my angel.

Needs Moar [DESU]

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Yey speculation topic. Honestly though, I might end up skipping every even-numbered chapter if they all feel rushed like Factions. :s

zakaria

zakaria

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Join Date: Jan 2006

It's Factions developing team turn this time..it doesn't surprise me

generik

Desert Nomad

Join Date: Jun 2005

Quote:
Originally Posted by Criminally Sane
Yey speculation topic. Honestly though, I might end up skipping every even-numbered chapter if they all feel rushed like Factions. :s
What Anet will probably do is make every even numbered chapter rushed and every odd number chapter unreplayable

Spirit Of Azrael

Spirit Of Azrael

Echo-mending Master

Join Date: Jun 2006

Service of Shadows [SOS]

W/N

Quote:
Originally Posted by generik
What Anet will probably do is make every even numbered chapter rushed and every odd number chapter unreplayable
2nd time through Nightfall with my Derv. Still love it



You PHAIL

AlienFromBeyond

Jungle Guide

Join Date: Dec 2005

Heros of Titans Realm [HotR]

W/

Quote:
Originally Posted by zakaria
It's Factions developing team turn this time..it doesn't surprise me
Ugh, thanks for reminding me. It'll probably be another half assed story focused on PvP, but badly at that so PvEers have to/can get into the action.

VitisVinifera

VitisVinifera

Banned

Join Date: Nov 2005

Northern California

HoTR

N/Me

wow....so someone leaked the name of the sequel to Half Life.......and it was named Half Life 2? Damn.....who saw that coming?

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Resp
I just found chapter 4 name. Thats not a big secret.
Here u go guys: GUILD WARS 4: Final Nerf
LOL!

And regarding Half Life 2. Yes, it was a big deal. But it worked out for the better. But having their stuff leaked was pretty bad.

exiled mat

exiled mat

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Dec 2005

The netherlands > friesland > balk

[JAMM] Justified Ancients of Moo Moo

E/Me

What if anet didn't think up a new name yet?

amoschid

Ascalonian Squire

Join Date: Jun 2005

Guild Wars 4: Sunrise

so what's your best guess ??

maedrarle

maedrarle

Lion's Arch Merchant

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Deicidal Tendencies

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Guild Wars: Mashugana

Shinjinbukai

Shinjinbukai

Frost Gate Guardian

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Palo Alto, California

Zealots of Shiverpeak[ZoS]

Mo/

Guild Wars: Global Warming (Based in mostly Mountain Terrain Ice Continent)

or

Guild Wars: Apocalypse (Just an awsome name every game uses sometime in its life.)

Some Guru Named Kai

Some Guru Named Kai

Frost Gate Guardian

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westAscalon4lyfe?

Giggity Giggity [GOO]

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Well... seeing as Guild Wars: Prophecies wasn't even given the name Prophecies til Factions was released. Name isn't their biggest concern, at least I don't think so.

Feminist Terrorist

Feminist Terrorist

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Oh Noes! The 'burbs!

Guild Wars: The Return of Gwen
(Everybody RUN!!!)

Clord

Clord

Wilds Pathfinder

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Finland

Victory Via Valour

Their name choises are maybe bit too much made after content where they try to focus most but not always is so succesful make it so great how it looked in consept stage (Alliance Battles and Conquering Luxon/Kurzick lands).

Some Guru Named Kai

Some Guru Named Kai

Frost Gate Guardian

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westAscalon4lyfe?

Giggity Giggity [GOO]

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Guild Wars: Seattle
Creation vs creators!

Ravenglass

Ravenglass

Academy Page

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W/N

Guild Wars: Underworld

Tijger

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Mo/E

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief
Only patent system is finding matches. Nightfall's name was DIRECTLY issued from Korea, not from Jeff Strain, meaning NC Soft has an iron grip on Arena Net, at least by the looks of it.
Duh, do you know what 'wholly owned subsidiary' means? Arenanet is fully owned by NC Soft, thats been the case from day one so I dont know what you're talking about or think you are talking about but NC Soft could sell Arenanet tomorrow if they so chose to.

gobla

Frost Gate Guardian

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Dark Humans

Mo/W

Guild Wars: Something fishy is going on!

Lord Sojar

Lord Sojar

The Fallen One

Join Date: Dec 2005

Oblivion

Irrelevant

Mo/Me

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tijger
Duh, do you know what 'wholly owned subsidiary' means? Arenanet is fully owned by NC Soft, thats been the case from day one so I dont know what you're talking about or think you are talking about but NC Soft could sell Arenanet tomorrow if they so chose to.
Still, the patent should have been created by the Creator, Arenanet. They are still their own seperate company, under the umbrella of NC Soft. So it is odd that it is in NC SOft's name. That means Arenanet could bankrupt, and Guild Wars would survive. Not a bad thing mind you.

BrotherKurupt

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Toronto

In Soviet Russia Altar Caps You [CCCP]

Mo/Me

Guild Wars: Consolation

Queenie

Queenie

Forge Runner

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Quote:
Originally Posted by zakaria
It's Factions developing team turn this time..it doesn't surprise me
Oh noes! That team took a whole year to make GW:F! While the other team took like 6 months to make NF and did a briliant job x] I hope the team make the fourth expansion as good as the third one.

King Kong

King Kong

Krytan Explorer

Join Date: Jan 2006

W/R

Quote:
Originally Posted by Queen Christie
Oh noes! That team took a whole year to make GW:F! While the other team took like 6 months to make NF and did a brilliant job x] I hope the team make the fourth expansion as good as the third one.
both teams had 12 months

ACreator

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Mo/

Guild Wars: The Northern Invasion

Yanman.be

Yanman.be

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Belgium

[ROSE]

A/

We all know they're going to re-release Prophecies again....

Ninna

Desert Nomad

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Northeast USA

Guilded Rose

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Queen Christie
Oh noes! That team took a whole year to make GW:F! While the other team took like 6 months to make NF and did a briliant job x] I hope the team make the fourth expansion as good as the third one.
reminder...

e3 2006 preview, May 2006
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm?s... ID=82&bhcp=1
Quote:
Due to their rapid release schedule, there are two teams working at Arena.net on the next two Campaigns so that new Campaigns can be released as quickly as possible while still maintaining a high level of content

(i.e. one team has been working on Campaign 3 for the last 3 or 4 months, and the other team just started on Campaign 4, so that each Campaign has about a year of development.).

erfweiss

Krytan Explorer

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Cold Black Eyes

W/A

Guild Wars: In-law invasion.

Scizzors

Scizzors

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Australia

Diabolic Influence [Di]

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Guild Wars: Attack of the Killer tomatoes.

Paperfly

Paperfly

Krytan Explorer

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Quote:
Guild Wars: Attack of the Killer tomatoes.
...So chapter five will feature a young George Clooney playing the part of the wacky roommate? Sold!

Vilaptca

Vilaptca

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Guild Wars: Doesn't have a name this chapter so everyone freaks out and thinks we aren't making one, even though the last chapter was released about a month ago.


Sorry...mine turned out to be kind of long

Seriously though, this proves...........pretty much nothing. We knew nothing about Factions for an incredibly long time. But you know what pictures were leaked out of it, I have them saved, I could probably find the topic of the leak. And you know what everyone said, that it wasn't the next expansion, but just a special area created for the chinese people to fool around in for a preview.

This expansion has been in development for what 7 months now? Give it a month or two before you start freaking out.