Who will be our next ally/allies?

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ok in tyria we had a couple but the main one was the dwarves

in cantha the main one was the tengu

in elona the main one was the centaur (how ever you spell it)

get any clues?.......well...THEY ARE ALL FROM TYRIA

what do you think gw4 allies is gonna be

personally i think it will be stone summit or the ettins

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"Main one"? twas but a small portion of the story

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I was hoping the Mursaat would play the role of an ally in a future chapter.

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"Main one"? twas but a small portion of the story
i mostly ment out of the foes
scratch that dwarf put seers

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The Druids and humans wearing animal furs as armor will be our allies in the next chapter

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In regards to: "They are all from Tyria", Tyria the name of the GW planet, as well as the continent from the first chapter. But lets just presume u meant the continent...
If Centaurs, dwarves and Tengu are 'all from Tyria', what are you trying to point out here? Yes you are right, they all are present in chapter 1, but their species are just widely spread across whole of Tyria (planet). Plus the fact that the animators like to use the same models to save out work.

And to my opinion, none of the chapters had real 'Allies', as you explain it. They were just a sidestory.

Anyway, Stone Summit allies would be just the same as Deldrimor Dwarves allies, so that wouldnt be any special. Also the Stone Summit only exist as a seperate group from the Deldrimor Dwarves, because they hate all other lifeforms except themselves. Thus allying with them would make them Stone Summit again, which already were 'allies' in CH1.

Ettins... well they are plain stoopid, dont think they prove good allies.
Mursaat were from another planet, so there goes the 'all from Tyria'.

I cant remember all about Druids, but I think they are not humanlike, since their spirits are the same model as the Tree-enemies.

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In regards to: "They are all from Tyria", Tyria the name of the GW planet, as well as the continent from the first chapter. But lets just presume u meant the continent...
If Centaurs, dwarves and Tengu are 'all from Tyria', what are you trying to point out here? Yes you are right, they all are present in chapter 1, but their species are just widely spread across whole of Tyria (planet). Plus the fact that the animators like to use the same models to save out work.

And to my opinion, none of the chapters had real 'Allies', as you explain it. They were just a sidestory.

Anyway, Stone Summit allies would be just the same as Deldrimor Dwarves allies, so that wouldnt be any special. Also the Stone Summit only exist as a seperate group from the Deldrimor Dwarves, because they hate all other lifeforms except themselves. Thus allying with them would make them Stone Summit again, which already were 'allies' in CH1.

Ettins... well they are plain stoopid, dont think they prove good allies.
Mursaat were from another planet, so there goes the 'all from Tyria'.

I cant remember all about Druids, but I think they are not humanlike, since their spirits are the same model as the Tree-enemies.
alright lets put it your way witch life form from the origanel continent form the first game do you think will be in guild wars 4

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Bummer those werent in the first continent...

The story about the Charr has been kinda closed in NF sidequests. But on the Mursaat and Seers nothing much is said... possible CH4?

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Bummer those werent in the first continent...

The story about the Charr has been kinda closed in NF sidequests. But on the Mursaat and Seers nothing much is said... possible CH4?
NF side quests closed the Charr Story?? Wtf?? Did i read that wrongly?
Dont get me wrong cause i aint finished NF yet

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Id like to see Mursaat Allies, possibly Charr!
No, id really love to see something like a Charr oppression revolt, and we ally renegade Charr to force them out of Tyria, which is side tracked by some massive horrible discovery, if it continured and we forced them out of Tyria, the Prophecies Campaign is completely ruined.

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Mursaat were from another planet, so there goes the 'all from Tyria'.
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Bummer those werent in the first continent...
Who said we were ONLY looking for possible allies that appeared in Tyria?

And the Mursuratt were from "another world" according to the seer. That may mean another planet, or it could mean something more of a fantasy explination (perhaps the world of Tyria is not the first/last world the 5 Gods created and perhaps they are "connected" somehow)

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Originally Posted by thezed
Who said we were ONLY looking for possible allies that appeared in Tyria?

And the Mursuratt were from "another world" according to the seer. That may mean another planet, or it could mean something more of a fantasy explination (perhaps the world of Tyria is not the first/last world the 5 Gods created and perhaps they are "connected" somehow)
The Worlds are conected thru the Mist. Also, by them saying "another world" does not necesarily(sp) mean from another planet. When the Spaniards came to South America, the natives tought they were form another world. "Another world" could also mean a very, very distant land.

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Originally Posted by Aegeroth
NF side quests closed the Charr Story?? Wtf?? Did i read that wrongly?
Dont get me wrong cause i aint finished NF yet

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Id like to see Mursaat Allies, possibly Charr!
No, id really love to see something like a Charr oppression revolt, and we ally renegade Charr to force them out of Tyria, which is side tracked by some massive horrible discovery, if it continured and we forced them out of Tyria, the Prophecies Campaign is completely ruined.
Not really. Any character going to Ascalon that isn't a Prophecies character is essentially going back in time. Heck, any Elonian character going to one of the other campaigns is going back in time too, as Nightfall is set a couple of years after Factions and Prophecies. Meanwhile, Prophecies characters are going to have done the Ascalon story before reaching LA and the point where they could switch campaigns, and after that the only role the Charr play is in the Titan Quests - and the Charr there could be seen as diehards that were hiding out until the Titans showed up to lead them.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aegeroth
NF side quests closed the Charr Story?? Wtf?? Did i read that wrongly?
Dont get me wrong cause i aint finished NF yet

On Topic
Id like to see Mursaat Allies, possibly Charr!
No, id really love to see something like a Charr oppression revolt, and we ally renegade Charr to force them out of Tyria, which is side tracked by some massive horrible discovery, if it continured and we forced them out of Tyria, the Prophecies Campaign is completely ruined.
yes you will see a side quest later in the game....it dosent finis hthe charr but changes thier life forever......i felt bad for em kinda

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Mursaat allies would pwn. Spectral Agony, 1/2 second later, boss monster dies. ^^

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Not really. Any character going to Ascalon that isn't a Prophecies character is essentially going back in time. Heck, any Elonian character going to one of the other campaigns is going back in time too, as Nightfall is set a couple of years after Factions and Prophecies. Meanwhile, Prophecies characters are going to have done the Ascalon story before reaching LA and the point where they could switch campaigns, and after that the only role the Charr play is in the Titan Quests - and the Charr there could be seen as diehards that were hiding out until the Titans showed up to lead them.
Prophesies and Factions happen about the same time I think (at least the same year), but Nightfall is 3 years later, which is 5 years after the Searing/Cataclysm. So going to fight the Lich/Shiro with Elonian characters would be considered timetravelling.

The Charr story:
Basically they followed the Titans because they always worshipped fire. When they saw Titans for the first time, they knew these fiery bodies must be the one from their gods. So they build the burning effigies.
Anyway, Abaddon wanted to destroy the City of the Gods (Arah), so instructed the Titans to whip the Charr into frenzy. With the help of Abaddon/Titans, the Searing destroyed the Great Northern Wall. The Charr rushed through the lands of Kryta towards the kingdom of Orr. The royal family of Kryta saw this stampede and decided to flee, leaving Kryta defenseless without any rule. Arriving in Orr, the Vizier was influenced by the disguised (demonic servant of Abaddon) Terrick, who was serving the Vizier. He talked the Vizier into reading the forbidden scrolls, which led to the Cataclysm, destroying all Charr in Orr, as well as Orr itself being ripped into the Realm of Torment. In the mean time, the Unseen Ones were found by Saul D'alessar, who aided the Krytans with defeating the Charr in their homelands. Thus all Charr in Kryta and Orr were destroyed. In Nightfall we also find out that the Titans see no use for the Charr anymore, and reveal themselves not to be their gods. So the Charr army has become at least 1/3 of their original size and most importantly: godless.

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In Nightfall we also find out that the Titans see no use for the Charr anymore, and reveal themselves not to be their gods.
Well, only one charr knows this and unless he got out the the Realm of Torment the others arent finding out anytime soon

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lol, these 2?

Centaurs from Tyria and Elona are very different, tyria being human/horse, elone goat/horse. I still don't know what the Mursaat were doing and who's side are they on if at all on any side, unless I missed something is some quests..

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Centaurs from Tyria and Elona are very different, tyria being human/horse, elone goat/horse. I still don't know what the Mursaat were doing and who's side are they on if at all on any side, unless I missed something is some quests..
There aren't any quests, apart from the primary ones, after you learn who the Mursaat are, apart from Sorrow's Furnace, the secondary profession quests, and the attribute points quest - none of which are connected to the Mursaat.

The general consensus is that they were on their own side. They weren't any friends to the Five Gods, but they weren't any friendlier to the sixth, either.

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where is that sidequest about the charr? i'm at abaddon's gate and i havn't seen it yet, unless its in the realm of torment or something (i havn't bothered to actually adventure in there outside of primary quests).

back on subject, i think the druids would make good allies if CH4 took place in a jungle-like setting. it would shed a little light on their history and it would be interesting to see what kind of skills they would have.

also, the mursaat are against the titans because they can wipe them out, but are also against the player because the players are all chosen. the whole reason the white mantle was killing off the chosen was to keep the door of komalie closed so the titans couldnt get out.

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The Forgotten have already helped out, I doubt the undead hordes of Orr are really willing to lend a hand. Minotaurs and ettins seem a bit slow. The White Mantle are pretty much gone, the Titans are supposed to have wiped out the Mursaat. The Stone Summit are still around, but after killing Dagnar in THK and posibly doing the quest in SF where you kill Stone Summit leaders, they probably aren't gonna be inclined to help us.

Who DOES that leave? Charr, but they're all crazy. Awakened armors? Aren't they tied to the Forgotten somehow? I don't even know if they're AWARE, or just tools of the forgotten myself.

My guess: Mergoyles. They seem communal, reasonably intelligent, and their territory in Kryta is just as in danger of being overrun by undead as the human kingdom is.

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id really like to see us team up with ...

Heket ~ They DO speak, an it would be pretty, cool, just because everyone loves Kermit

Naga ~ We all know em, can be extremely tough (Jade Sea Naga...icky)
and they make great pets

Seers ~ We havent seen any of their race, id like to know more about them, and if the next chapter sheds light on them, it could be possible

Mergoyles ~ Seen ALOT around the Watchtower Cost. Some will know what i'm hinting at

Skree/Harpies ~ Logical, social, seem like a legit option in a future chapter

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Next ally should be pretty obvious....either 1. Invader Chickens (but thats not gonna happen) 2. Renegade Penguins (not likely) or

3. E/mo 58 Gwen, Ruler of World :
Elite Skill: Hellfire "Gwen only : You Die. The End" 0energy cost 1/2 second cast time 0 recharge
the only way to live is Divine intervention spam....but no monk ever brings that but Zaishen Monk in HA ~
after/if you beat her ....she becomes a hero....and u have to fight lvl 1337 Abaddon...that has death nova that deals 5k dmg and puts all conditions on u....theres no way to win...but Anet finally got tired of pve...sry

lol

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Next ally should be pretty obvious....either 1. Invader Chickens (but thats not gonna happen) 2. Renegade Penguins (not likely) or

3. E/mo 58 Gwen, Ruler of World :
Elite Skill: Hellfire "Gwen only : You Die. The End" 0energy cost 1/2 second cast time 0 recharge
the only way to live is Divine intervention spam....but no monk ever brings that but Zaishen Monk in HA ~
after/if you beat her ....she becomes a hero....and u have to fight lvl 1337 Abaddon...that has death nova that deals 5k dmg and puts all conditions on u....theres no way to win...but Anet finally got tired of pve...sry

lol
I've seen somebody been buffed over 8k health.

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id really like to see us team up with ...

Heket ~ They DO speak, an it would be pretty, cool, just because everyone loves Kermit

Naga ~ We all know em, can be extremely tough (Jade Sea Naga...icky)
and they make great pets

Seers ~ We havent seen any of their race, id like to know more about them, and if the next chapter sheds light on them, it could be possible

Mergoyles ~ Seen ALOT around the Watchtower Cost. Some will know what i'm hinting at

Skree/Harpies ~ Logical, social, seem like a legit option in a future chapter
oooooh, Naga! I want a naga hero now!

I think the seers were all but wiped out by the Mursaat, but obviously SOME of them survived (at least 2)

Skree Harpies? I honestly never thought of them as very intelligent. They seem less social and intelligent than some of the other races (Avicara and Centaurs at least got around to making clothing and weapons. Then again, so did the ettins...)

How about Yetis? The quest "Death with Honor" reveals that yetis are intelligent, have a sense of honor and familial obligation. They can speak, use tools, and HATE avicara (would be interesting dialogue to put a yeti hero in the same party as Talon )

Mergoyles are my "safe" bet, but naga and yetis aren't too far out there either.

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oooooh, Naga! I want a naga hero now!

I think the seers were all but wiped out by the Mursaat, but obviously SOME of them survived (at least 2)

Skree Harpies? I honestly never thought of them as very intelligent. They seem less social and intelligent than some of the other races (Avicara and Centaurs at least got around to making clothing and weapons. Then again, so did the ettins...)

How about Yetis? The quest "Death with Honor" reveals that yetis are intelligent, have a sense of honor and familial obligation. They can speak, use tools, and HATE avicara (would be interesting dialogue to put a yeti hero in the same party as Talon )

Mergoyles are my "safe" bet, but naga and yetis aren't too far out there either.
Mergoyles havnt shown to be intelligent yet.

There are infact atleast 5 Seers, 1 in each of the last 3 missions, 1 in Mineral Springs and 1 ( the most well know one) in Iron Mines

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Mursaat allies would pwn. Spectral Agony, 1/2 second later, boss monster dies. ^^
noes! the plot would be that the mursaat lose their SA skill and you need to get it back for them from some evil overlord so they can kill people again.
Why would we ever listen to Mursaat?
The answer is cash.

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[CRFH]

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Originally Posted by Sophitia Leafblade
Mergoyles havnt shown to be intelligent yet.

There are infact atleast 5 Seers, 1 in each of the last 3 missions, 1 in Mineral Springs and 1 ( the most well know one) in Iron Mines
Some of them may be the same individual multiple times, however. We see Shadow, for instance, in two places in the game - does this mean that Shadow and Carlotta have been cloned? Or is it just that they move between Denravi and Ember Light?

The reason people say there are at least two is that there are two variations in their appearance, which people assume to mean that at the very least the variation in appearance means that there are two. However, where the Seers have the same appearance, it could simply mean that it is one individual that is keeping up with the players rather than multiple Seers stationed around the place.

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